Orks have been in the release order now bouncing along the fringes of our timelines now for several months. There was the chance that they were going to be swapped out with Tyranids either at the end of this year, or the first codex of next year. This rumor gets right to it, and reveals the author of the Ork Codex.


The current thinking is the following
Space Marines
Tyranids
Imperial Guard
Orks

Now this is up on the Faeit 212 release order on the tabs at the top of the page, along with more information listed there.

This rumor puts them into next year, and above all else......the author

Please remember that this is a rumor

via an anonymous source (from the Faeit 212 inbox)
Matt Ward is the author for the upcoming ork codex.
Orks are next year.

86 Comments:

  1. Yay, my Orks will now get either entirely retconned (ala the necrons) and/or horrid (ala the GK) fluff.

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    1. Expect Ghazghull to lament about how he'll always be inferior because he is not an Ultramarine...

      ...On the other hand,

      A) Nafka, didn't you post this rumor before?
      B) The Demon of the End Times is scheduled for every Codex ever. While we pray it is not him, take with an extra pinch of salt because of this.

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    2. Or it will be a perfectly viable and fun codex, like all of the 6th edition releases thus far.

      Furthermore, Necrons really had minimal fluff and design before, so they needed to be fleshed out. The Grey Knights fluff is the only awkward fluff he's written.

      People complaining about Ward often have no basis, other than they saw someone else on the internet do it.

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    3. Don't forget the Orks will now use Sisters of Battle as shoulderpads and on their tanks to protect them from harm...

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    4. Has anyone noticed that Ward hasn't written any of the new books yet? Two Vetocks and the rest are Kelly with Troke helping with Eldar.

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    5. @The Machine God - Also part of the reasoning, though he did write the Iyanden Supplement. Which from what I hear is something akin to Space Marine levels...

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    6. Cruddace worked with Kelly on Daemons

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    7. Lol trust me, no one is inferior to the ultra-pansies. Its pretty amusing to think people sctually think theyre still cool after they have been relieved of "noob" status. But I'm excited for guard! Can't wait!

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    8. "People complaining about Ward often have no basis, other than they saw someone else on the internet do it." - Some noob.

      No, the people complaining have very good reasons for complaining.

      The fact you seem to think only your opinion counts pretty much sums up why arguing on the internet is pretty useless.

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    9. Ward does good rules... the fluff on the other hand.

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    10. Unlike NEcrons the Orks have a long standing in the game, meaning their fluff is most likely not being retcroned.

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    11. @TheAurgelmir - Tell that to Craftworld Iyanden - I mean Craftworld Biel-Tan *cough*.

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    12. @Gariel: What got changed there? Don't have the codices here right now so can't compare.

      Sure some changes will happen, but not in the extreme of the cron one.

      Orks are pretty straight forward aswell

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    13. @TheAurgelmir - Take with pinch of salt, but allegedly, Craftworld Iyanden basically became a Biel-Tan clone, and Ward not only retconned a metric tonne of stuff involving Ynnead (the Eldar God of the Dead), made Iyanden's leadership incompetent to the point of stupidity AND (most damning) failed to understand the slightest details of how the Infinity Circuit worked.

      Again, take with metric tonne of salt - haven't read a Ward book since Grey Knights and I'm trying to keep the collection free.

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  2. Queue fluff of Ghazghkull destroying a planet by headbutting it...

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    1. I thought he head-butted an asteroid into a planet in Hammer of the Emperor?

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    2. Orks was made for Ward Fluff.

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  3. I don't want a new codex just some plastic MegaNobs please °_°

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    1. You are in the slim minority. Every book will be updated for 6th edition anyway.

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    2. I think SoB might be tha last one, as it is the one that needs the most work/releases.

      Or we mioght see the whole Inquisition in one book (GW if yo uare reading this; I have som great ideas of how to make that work)

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  4. Boo 50pt 13/13/13 open topped flyer dedicated transports that can carry 20 orks and have 8 Infinit Repeeter kanons of Doum!1!!

    I'm buying all the orks on e-bay before anyone else can get them.

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    1. They're yours, go for it! I already have more of them than I know what to do with.

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    2. I tried getting rid of mine but they keep reappearing, its like they're some kind of weed...

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  5. Ward has been the rumored author for every book so far and it hasn't panned out for any of them, so I'll believe he's written one when we get the WD that says so.

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    1. He did 'Write' the Iyanden supplement.

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    2. & fantasy Daemons, but yeah, I wouldn't buy a Ward rumor without any direct confirmation, lol.

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  6. So according to rumors Matt Ward is writing all Codices, haha

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  7. .... I for one welcome our new Green skinned overlords.

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  8. OHHHH great, Matt Waaaagh! will write us some Mad Waaagh!'s.

    Finally my beloved greenskins will get overpowered... will have to see it to believe it.

    So the IG get two new codices before the Orks get 1?

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    1. talk to the Sisters of Battle before you complain about who gets a codex first.

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    2. Boohoo, how many power-armour armies does there need to be. Nothing special about them at all.

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    3. The problem is that there are people out there who think this way. The SoB are a unique and compelling organization that brings more to the Imperium (and more importantly, the game) than just another bunch of giant dudes in power armor. They fully deserve a chance to be updated, though I think that you can rest assured that they won't be stealing your place in line.

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    4. For every asshat who thinks SoB don't deserve an actual book, there are 2 die hard fans who have been waiting years for one. Sadly, GW are amongst the former.

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    5. Out of all the Power armor armies out there SoB is the most unique, as it is NOT Space Marines. They have a 3+ save but not a MEQ stat line. This makes them really interesting.

      I'd rather have one Space Marine codex to rule all the chapters and the SoB codex, than the way it is now.

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  9. As much as i love the Orks (never did quite finish my army off).... right now all i want to hear about is Apocalypse....
    Anything new on that, we had that initial splash and then nada

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    1. I'm hoping this weekend will see more WD leaks.

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    2. According to rumors, Matt Ward is writing every codex, or the fans will claim they WANT Phil Kelly to write every codex. Only when a Kelly codex drops, they will then complain about it.

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  10. That's what I heard too, but I was secretly hoping for a Vetock codex. So, here's to hoping there is a Bad Moonz supplement first :)

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    1. Bad Moonz are pretty much the Ultramarines of the Orks. They don't need a supplement. Freebootaz on the other hand...

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    2. Uh Goffs are definitely the Ultramarines of Orks. Ghazgul = Calgar

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  11. Just look at which things they currently have that aren't selling well and go purchase them at today's prices. As they will obviously become better and you will have to pay more for them (ala Dire Avengers).

    If I had to guess - Animosity back in; new monstrous creature on the oval base (Squiggoth); Possibly Feral orcs for said Squiggoth; Bring back the Goff Rockers; Flash gits maybe actually contribute; Wazzdakka actually gets a model; Nobs can upgrade to Meks, doks, or Weirdboys instead of making them HQ choices; and freebooters and KLANS come back!!!!

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    1. You know the Klans will be supplements...

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    2. well if they do, then they'll be a reason for painting your buggies red again.... coz red is FASTA

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    3. i honestly see baby stompas instead of squigoths. Thats just my speculation though - no confirmation - Cus the wriathknight is a baby titan.

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    4. It will likely be a large walker or small titan. That's just the trend right now: give everyone a Barbie-sized vehicle (except 'nids) to walk around fighting like Power Rangers.

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    5. Or they give rules for the Stompa to be used in regular games, they probably haven't sold many of them for a while. Flash gitz are the best bet for becoming 'overpowered' and possibly meganobz ala Wraithguard. Maybe Zzap kannons.
      Personally I really want Freebooterz if they do any supplement, but they'll probably do speed freaks knowing my luck :P

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    6. I would like to see a return of Mad Boyz. He brought back Jakero.
      How about an Elites slot of Mad Boyz running around pointing unstable Weird Boyz at people? That would be awesome.
      And Stompas in the codex would be cool. Then they can rename those big apocalypse guys Slasha Gargants like they really are.
      Though I would prefer getting a Squiggoth over a smaller stompa.

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  12. Finally something about orks, though I don't believe it, it's something.

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  13. Phil Kelly's current Codex is solid. I wouldn't object at all to just seeing Phil revise and update it to fit the new core rulebook.

    Wild, baseless supplement predictions: Pure Madboyz & Weirdboyz armies, Grot armies, Freebooterz.

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    1. I'd go for the eldar treatment.

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    2. There will probably just be one suppliment to start with, and I am guessing Grots. As we have heared "mini dex" rumors for that

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  14. I've only started playing warhammer about a little more than a year ago, I play Orks but I don't understand the implications of a new codex beeing written by Phil Kelly, or Matt Ward or someone als, can someone enlightme on that please?

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    1. Phil Kelly has a reputation for writing codexs with good fluff (background information) and synergy between units that need a basic understanding of tactics to win.

      Matt Ward has a reputation of writing codexs with increasingly 'epic' (ludicrous) fluff, the pinnacle probably being a certain Kaldor Draigo. His rules tend to be more simplistic with opportunity to 'spam' (take many copies of) a single powerful unit that can deal with most armies on the tabletop. Grey knight purifier spam was probably the most prolific. Grey knights in general seem to be the worst offender (much to the annoyance of Daemonhunters such as myself!).
      You'll often find his name most commonly associated with Ultramarines as he wrote codex Space Marines which heavily focused on that chapter with quotes of other chapters wishing they were ultramarines.

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    2. Don't forget that Kelly loves charts and random rolls tables.

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    3. carefully ignoring the fact that space marines was meant to be Codex Ultramarines and then Ward was told to shove in extra chapters at the last minute...

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    4. That randomness adds a lot of fun to the Orks IMHO.

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    5. @Scuzgob: or just genuinely ignorant, honestly! If that was the intention then fair enough, it definitely explains a lot. Consider me educated

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  15. Sooo, will we get a fluff piece where some boyz smear Sisters all over their armour, not to protect themselves against daemons, but to allow them to get into fight quicker, 'cuz red wunz go fasta?

    Also, Tuska's misadventures in the Eye will probably continue and he will finally challenge the Blood God himself into a duel and of course ends up winning. Not to mention that all Orkz will now see Ghazhkull as their Spiritual Liege (funnily enough, that would actually fit the fluff, what with some Orks believing the Third War for Armageddon is actually the Ragna-Ork, the final WAAAAAAAARGH).

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    Joking aside, I'm hoping to see silly random tables up the wazoo, properly mad Madboyz (thinking of Epic 2ed chart here), the return of Wierdboy Battletower (of Epic 2ed fame), Feral Orks straight outta Kodex, Squiggoth (and a plastic model for it, too), Klanz 'n' pure Grot list in da Kodex too, and Freebooterz in da ekspanshun.

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    1. ^this. One of my buddies is building an army, and wants to run some Madboyz. I bought a box of WHFB Orcs to be bale to kit out some more primitive feral Orks, and the musician would be an awesome madboy squad addition.

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  16. As long asWard stays far away from my space marines and Dark Eldar, I'm set. Here's to hoping Kelly writes them both!

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  17. im just relieved its not robin cruddace

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  18. Tyranids and Imperial Guard before Orks? They neither need nor deserve such honor. Blech. >:P

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    1. Guard needs to be brought a notch closer to earth (pun intended).
      Nids I don't really know..

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    2. Nids need a new book, cruddace ruined 3/4 of the codex entries. No allies and no rules to make up for our exclusion from that major part of the game. Can't fire emplacements. Etc. Etc. At least with orks you can fill the gaps in the book with a number of competent allies.

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  19. i think the rumor should be

    "Did Matt Ward get fired?"

    he hase not wright a dex in ages

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    1. Um, he wrote the Daemons of Chaos Army book, and the Necron book before that, and if I am not mistaken he wrote the Iyanden supliment.

      Your argument is invalid.

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  20. hey i'm game for some ward love in my new ork dex.

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  21. On one hand it currently seems good to get a codex later, since every new one seems to be a bit more powerful than the previous one, but it also can be a problem when you get too close to the end of a rulebook edition's life span. The current Ork and Dark Eldar codices are good examples for how a codex can be very powerful at the time it comes out and get nerfed a lot when the new rule set hits.

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    1. Who is saying that they will make a new rulebook right after the last codex?

      Besides DE has a lot of power in it still, not really seeing what you are referring to when you say they got worse. It's just that some codices are completly out of balance.

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    2. How Dark Eldar got weaker with 6th edition? C'mon, that is common knowledge.
      FnP went from 4+ to 5+, overwatch made Wyches, a formerly decent close combat unit only playable as sacrificial tank hunters, reserves coming from the Webportal can't attack anymore, Rapid Fire weapons shooting at full range after moving made Dark Eldar vehicles even less survivable. I probably forgot a few further points I could make here.

      I'm not saying DE are an auto lose army or anything like that, but I don't see how anyone could deny that they were considerably stronger under 5th edition rules.

      The list of rule changes from 5th to 6th edition that benefit the Dark Eldar is a lot shorter than the list of rules that nerf DE abilities and special rules.

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    3. Except Raider or Venom spam is still incredibly competitive. In the case of Venom spam, the one rule that makes it hilariously good is pre-measuring, with night shields you can basically stay out of range of the enemy while peppering them with splinter cannon fire.

      Consensus seems to be 6th Ed. is a shooty edition, not an assault focused edition. Wyches are still good, they guarantee a tank is taken out of the picture if you give them Haywire grenades.

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    4. The problem is that before 6th there were three viable semi-competitive to competitive lists. Lists that represented the fluff from the book. Wych armies, Webway portal and heamonculi grotesque/wracks. All 3 lists were severely nerfed with the new edition. Now there is just kabal with darklight/poison spam and it requires an allied Farseer to top the charts

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  22. Ward is the best, Kelly is so overrated.

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  23. One think I've noticed among some of the older players at my local game store is that the ones who played GK or Crons before the update weren't always happy with how the fluff/crunch got shuffled about. I heard one guy, in this rather morose tone, describe how frustrating it is to be seen as a "cheese-monger" or being accused of OP bullshit as soon as he opens his army case. If you're just in it for competitive reasons, then this is kinda a moot point, but for those of us who enjoy fluff or casual games that aren't curb-stomp-fests, OP armies are just unpleasant. I think what we really want are BETTER armies; some things change, core mechanics and what made a certain army THAT army get a little extra shining, but the writer doesn't turn it into a pile of fan-wank and Mary Sues.

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  24. if matt word writes the new ork codex i will dump sack his house

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  25. if matt word writes the new ork codex i will dump sack his house

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