As often happens when a new Warhammer 40k codex is released, it takes a while for Forgeworld rules and models to be updated, and this can lead to some odd occurances, or changes.


Here is an email regarding such a change from the Faeit 212 inbox, and is well worth a look. The Scatter Laser is a powerful weapon in the hands of any vehicle that mount one alongside another weapon.

via Lotusflower from the Faeit 212 inbox
So I was talking with a friend and browsing the forgeworld website and I noticed the lynx is £74.00, which according to google is $114.90 also known as the price of a wraith knight. So I opened my copy of doom of mymeara and saw that the lynx can take a scatter laser. Unless I'm mistaken, since scatter laser now has laser lock, it will (usually) twin link the primary weapon. Basically you can get the same load out as the scorpion superheavy (twin linked pulsar/sonic lance) for 180 points cheaper, the only other loss being 1 structure point. My guess is that this makes the lynx super broken for it's points cost. Cobras can also do the same.

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  1. Ah that's a little far fetched. If you for example look up the Vampire Hunter in that book, you'll see the old rules for the Scatter Laser and that's the rules which apply to the units in that book until it get updated.

    There was a time where Dark Angels and Chaos Space Marines Terminator armour were inferior to other the other armies Terminator armour just because they weren't updated yet and until that happened you had to use those rules even if the points cost made sense. So in this case where the points cost aren't consistent with the new rules it's even more obvious and logical that you have to use the rules for the Scatter Laser from the same book where the unit is.

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    1. I agree. The codex does not update the rules for the weapon unless the entry in thr forgeworld imperial armour entry says "Use the rules in the Eldar Codex". If so, the OP still makes it seem like a Structure point is not much. A structure point is everything when your getting beat on by any D weapon.

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    2. But a FW book is not a codex :)
      If the rules for a "basix weapon" change in 40k I see not reason not to adjust the same weapon in a FW datasheet.

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    3. The FW model and its point cost is obviously not planned with this weapon.
      If there is no reference to the codex, but instead a reference to an internal weapon list, it has to be used.

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    4. Yes, but the Vampire Hunter has the scatter laser defined in it's profile. The Lynx and cobra do not have the scatter laser defined in their profiles. As far as I can see, the scatter laser isn't defined globally in IA11, it doesn't include a summary or anything. Bright lances are never given a profile at all in IA11, but units can take them as upgrades. Your logic suggests that they don't do anything because the book doesn't define them. Obviously you're meant to refer to the current Codex Eldar. Pg 157 explicitly says you will need a copy of Codex Eldar to make to use the army list. Faeit's point was that FW needs to work harder to keep their rules fair. Thing's like this do happen a little too often, and GW and FW should communicate better on errata and such.

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  2. I just want the Hornet to have points costs changed for scatter lasers and holofield and I'll be happy :)

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  3. I play a lot of very large Apocalypse games, often against my friends Eldar army that has all the FW superheavies... This was the first thing that I realized would happen...
    The only real problem with using this tactic is the minimum range of the scatter laser (36") which is sort of pointless for 60+" D Weapons... So yes you can twin link your D weapons but only at close range

    I am far more concerned with FW correcting the 3 Hull Points = 1 Structure Point mechanic... I personally think that is completely borked and should be fixed... Personally if they are going to persist with the X HP = Y SP then I think that 1 SP should equal the highest HP vehicle value, which is 5HP for a Spartan Assault Vehicle...

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    1. Oh Lordy, I hope they don't make every Structure Point worth 5 Hull Points. As if getting rid of Plague Towers wasn't hard enough (5 SP), let's give them 25 Hull Points shall we? I already can't get Slay the Warlod because of that thing.

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  4. There was a similar discussion when the Tyranid codex came out regarding the Heirophant Biotitan having "Warp Field".

    The Tyranid Codex updated 'Warp Field' to be a 3++ save, and the question was whether the new codex overwrote the IA/Apocalypse rules. The general concensus was that if the ability/weapon is detailed in the IA/Apoc unit description, you stick with that regardless of what the newer codex says.

    On a related note, this upcoming Apocalypse expansion in a month or two may answer a lot of questions.

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