Well, for something that was not meant to go on sale until tomorrow, its up now. I'm sorry, but this is a little bit of failure when something goes up for sale a day early. If supplies run out, those hobbyists that really want to the book, may be facing a long delay for ordering on the actual release day.


My suggestion is for those of you like me, get your order in right away.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440161a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k

Iyanden: A Codex Eldar Supplement $49.50
Iyanden: A Codex Eldar Supplement Special Edition $85.00

Lets hope that supplies are in full stock this time around. And yes, for a supplement, paying the full price of a standard codex is extremely high. It is 72 pages, 32 of which are background.

42 Comments:

  1. Yeah that's pretty darn extreme if you ask me.

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    1. I realize it's something I personally have wanted for a long time. I'll probably buy a limited edition Bad Moonz and Death Guard if/when they come out. But I think $25 is more like it, and for LE $50 is gougy enough. Sheesh.

      We asked for it, we got it I guess. I'm sure a lot of us had vowed to give up limbs for something like this as well, so I suppose another $50 isn't that bad to keep a leg or arm ;)

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    2. Don't be so sure we'll have other supplements like this one. I feel like they did it because there was a massive release of "wraith" stuff that was matching Iyanden very nicely. But a codex for each faction in the game? Seriously? This is still GW...

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  2. Holy crap - the UK version is a whole £5 cheaper when you download it.... amazing.

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    1. There also seems to be an update available for the Ipad edition... not sure if it changes anything specific, and there are no FAQ/errata items on the GW site just yet.

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    2. $10 cheaper in the US here maybe they were watching E3 this year.

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  3. Good grief. $83.00 for that?

    I think that's just about enough GW.

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    1. You know you don't have to buy it. If people keep speaking contrary with their wallets to their online whining, they have no reason to think it's "just about enough."

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    2. I agree with Sigil with the just enough wording: in my opinion this is exactly why we will not keep on having a good White Dwarf: the nice things that used to appear in the mag have now being packed and sold in a different mood. I am afraid that a lot of non-sense work is going to be sold again and again. This feels like when you buy a videogame (like Assassin's creed III) and find that in the middle of the story there are a couple of chapters missing... only to find that you got a DLC (paying MORE) to obtain the rest of the story. This feels like that. We got a lot of things that could be included in current codex, or in white dwarf regularly, but instead we are going to make you pay A LOT more just adding enough photographs (and fluff that could be writen in an afternoon) to make a standalone book. And I am not taking into account the problem that represents to hundreds of non-english speakers players to have rules that can't be understood... but that anyone can bring to a tournament.

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  4. I find these prices so hard to understand...
    The Liber Chaotica Collector's Edition (Plastic Cage, Chain, Lock and Key + more substance that won't become obsolete) was $100-$150 from what I remember. This is $85? For a dust-jacket and an envelope? Horrible.

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  5. Isn't this sort of the GW way of doing business though?

    If not for rumour sites like your own, and I had to depend on the White Dwarf, I would never be able to get any of the LE stuff since the magazine usually reaches me 2 weeks late.

    Still, thanks for posting this, I hurried right over and orderd my copy.

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  6. For an expansion the price is very high. I only buy it so I can give my old 3rd Edition Iyanden Army a new lease on life.

    Back in the day (2001) they had an expansion called Codex: Craftworld Eldar that gave you rule for all the major Craftworlds for the bargain price of $15.

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    1. But that was a black-and-white, softbound leaflet with hardly as much content. That, and currency had way more value back then.

      Irrelevant in today's discussion.

      "I remember when gas was $0.85 a gallon in 1997..."

      Great...doesn't matter now.

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    2. It was black and white but on those years technology was not the level of today: more work was condensed on that books, they had no wonderful computers to do great artworks, and they had not the same machines to make minis they have today... and China didn't exist the way it does today. There is no excuse for such an abuse, and there SHOULD be no other answer than NOT buying what you consider expensive. Heresy 30k: there's no need for the expansion to enjoy your Iyanden minis... they are eldar painted yellow...

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  7. BRACE YOURSELF
    PDF IS COMING

    or

    KEEP
    CALM
    and
    WAIT FOR
    PDF

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  8. Jeez if people don't like the price of the limited edition they can just buy a standard copy.

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  9. Stop buying this crap! Yes, I'm sure it's very pretty and you can have all the bling you want - but DAMN. For a supplement? ReallY???

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    1. If people want to buy it, they should. If they don't want to, they shouldn't. Demand and consumption will dictate market value.

      One thing's for sure, whining about it online will do absolutely nothing.

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    2. You are absolutely right, but I can understand the whining: every time GW produces a crap (with very low cost) and that crap makes them earn money (because it doesn't matter if it is really worth) they are NOT going to do GOOD stuff. They are not putting efforts nor giving us a great product.

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  10. Glad to see you can buy this as a book, I have been talking it down due to thinking it's download only.

    But for the same freaking price as the codex? That is a rip-off.

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  11. I agree that charging the same price as the full codex, for a book that requires said codex to even be useable, is ridiculous. Yet, it seems that as much as GW is willing to gouge their customers, there are people that are willing to pay.

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  12. I agree that charging the same price as the full codex, for a book that requires said codex to even be useable, is ridiculous. Yet, it seems that as much as GW is willing to gouge their customers, there are people that are willing to pay.

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  13. The rules are only 2 pages and you can find those on the interwebs already. So unless you realy, REALY like the fluff, I would advise not to buy it.
    I'm all for the idea of codex supplements but not for the price of a full retail codex.

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  14. I agree, the price tag for even the regular version is a bit steep. I think this is an amazing direction for the game to move in, but it worries me that if they don't sell enough copies due to the price, we may not see the factions we are all waiting for. I personally can't wait to see some Crimson Fist or 13th company books, but it may never make it if they keep these price tags.

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    1. They sure will keep on making that ridiculously expensive things for that minimal effort. Just rip off a couple of pages from next codex, sold separately: you got it, a new expansion.

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  15. I agree, the price tag for even the regular version is a bit steep. I think this is an amazing direction for the game to move in, but it worries me that if they don't sell enough copies due to the price, we may not see the factions we are all waiting for. I personally can't wait to see some Crimson Fist or 13th company books, but it may never make it if they keep these price tags.

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  16. In my view if you are fielding an Iyanden army, then you dont need to buy this, unless you want to use any special rules. If you have teh core eldar codex, just use that instead, since I doubt that there would be any complaints from opponents for you using a nicely painted eldar army, using the basic eldar army rules.

    If have an Iyanden army and you want this book, by all means buy it, otherwise don't fret about it and just use the regular codex for your army.

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  17. Ordered and paid for. I could care less how much it costs- it is why I have a job.

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  18. You sir, just one this argument. People have jobs to pay for living costs, andx whats left over is whats known as 'disposible' income, meaning you spend it however you want. This is an expensive hobby , we all know that;-)

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    1. But it shouldn't, it is a hobby made of plastic miniatures and rules to play with them, it shouldn't be more expensive than playing a guitar or owning a bike... but it is!!

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    2. How many man hours do you think go into designing, concept development, production...writing the background, painting the art work (remember most codex work is done full scale originally)

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    3. Artwork? In last three codexes I have found LOTS of old designs, there are a lot of things revamped continuously, and don't tell me about the writing, it is not exactly shakespeare what we are talking about. Look at the white dwarf: they insist that their team is made of six-seven persons, that's all... do you consider the price of the WD is all about the hours they spend?? Of course not, the staff that designs and makes the minis sure need payment, but if GW was paying very very well we wouldn't know about artists, designers and writers that have gone away and never returned. I really believe they have kept the worst miniature designers, or at least the cheapests... seeing what kind of minis are doing right now. How many hours do you think it costs to rip off a couple of rule pages and use some old artwork, compile it, and have a new Iyanden book? Come on, when you do a BRB I can understand it is 50 gbp worth, but this one??

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    4. look at the market, everything GW do is comparable to similar products from other areas.

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    5. AND they are more expensive.

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  19. I won't buy it as I don't play eldar... Yet...

    If someone wants to stomp me with those awesome wraithworld rules, I'd expect them to have both Codex Eldar and the Iyaden supplement. Stoked GW put somewhat of a high tax on it. Hope the supply is enough to please the masses.

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  20. Books, like most things, are cheaper when sold in large volumes. GW rulebooks are already written for a relatively small market. Of that small market, what percentage can be expected to buy the Eldar codex? Of that group, what percentage will be playing Iyanden? I suspect that much of the price for this supplement is due to an expectation of low sales volume.

    Plus, it's a supplement for those who are really into a specific craftworld; i.e., it's for those who like the story and the flavor of their particular army as much as playing the game. The supplement isn't for those who complain that it's a bunch of fluff and only a few pages of rules.

    If the rumors are true and they release a supplement for the Ultramarines, I will definitely be buying it even though I could play my Smurfs according to the basic codex. That's because I like the army and would be happy that GW bothered to release additional material that also added some variety.

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    1. In adition to the price, in my opinion the problem, as i stated before, is the language not being translated to the thousand of non english speaker players that would like to have their armies, at least, LEGAL. Would you be happy to find that your ultramarine army needs aditional rules that you don't understand? If you decide that you don't need that rules, and don't take care about it, you will find suddenly someone who does... and that kind of problems have been appearing with that only english rules. Some people have been using the old flyers rules while we have new rules after that english only expansion of flyers. That is madness.

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    2. "Would you be happy to find that your ultramarine army needs additional rules that you don't understand?"

      Again, we're talking about a supplement; i.e., a book that's fun but not needed. As for the English-only "Death from the Skies", all armies except vanilla Space Marines and Orks were unaffected since their flyers were covered by the FAQs. And rumor has it that both Marines and Orks will be getting updated codexes fairly soon, so DftS is merely a stopgap.

      Since you clearly have a problem with Games Workshop's policies, books, miniatures... well, everything they make, perhaps you should consider that Games Workshop's products simply aren't for you.

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    3. But they have been for me for more tan twenty years, so perhaps they have changed enough so i find them completely different from the games company filled with good ideas that began a long time ago. They were a Factory of games and minis, a Factory of great ideas that were monthly given to you in a regular magazine for a reasonable Price: then they changed their mag so it became a catalogue and destroyed their web accordingly so you couldn't find anything worth for free. Their great webpages (I said webpageS as they had web designers for a lot of different countries with good content, expansions and new rules for free)became an online store. Every content that could perfectly fit in a downloadable content on the web or in the WD became "pay for everything" and was slowly removed from the mag and the web. EVEN their articles of "How to" have been packed and sold in paper or electronic data. So I feel like they have become another money Factory, they lost their goal, they lost their spirit and they are loosing their customers love for these reasons. Just an opinion from an old aged player that enjoyed every new from its favourite hobby and right now SUFFERS every idea they got, because now they are ONLY intended to milk all of us. I don't mean they ddn't earn money a long time ago, or pretend they weren't a company at all, but the fun, the hobby and the imagination flowed with every new mini, rulebook or rule they published: now what flows is the smell of megacorporation.

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    4. Well said, Rickyard!

      Finally someone who speaks English! :D

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  21. Yeah, I don't understand the pricing either. Although, printing on quality stock paper, and high quality imaging doesn't run cheap. But, I've seen comparable books costing less, in the $30-$40US range. What baffles me is the $35.50US price difference for a 90-110# paper dust cover with only a gloss printing of runes, and a less cropped image of the cover art. If the LE books had different art on the covers, better dust covers (look at the Tau LE book), and/or the books were signed by the author(s), then I could understand the $35.50US price difference between standard and LE editions. Another cool thing (at least for this book) would be a LE Jes Goodwin art/sketch print signed by him. This could be done easily because of the limited run of 500 copies. Just a thought... Hint, hint GW!

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  22. Nice idea, Unknown!

    I've ordered mine. Two reasons: firstly, as a fan of Wraith constructs, Iyanden is an interesting ruleset and fluff to have, and secondly I want to support GW in their testing the water supplement in the hope that other forces will get one too. White Scars, Black Templars and the rest, I'm looking at you.

    Yeah, it could be cheaper but it's a good quality product so I don't mind paying. I only have to buy it once, for the same price as a big night out but it lasts longer and doesn't give me a hangover :P

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