Every Chapter will be getting codex supplements, and there is work being done on them. Special notes..... Chaos Space Marines.


This is part one of a conversation, and I simply split the subjects up so that things would not get missed due to its length, while keeping all the details and integrity. So first off we are going to talk about codex supplements, next up.... the Space Marine codex.

via an anonymous source from the Faeit 212 inbox (very reliable source)
As I told you about a year ago, there are going to be more supplements for pretty much all the codexes, even Chaos Space Marines and Tau: though no work has really been done on the latter.

There is not going to be another Eldar one in 2013.

White Scars is one of the supplement codexes, and it is also complete (borderline printed) so logic dictates it'll be released a few weeks after the SM codex, but I don't have a street date for you.

Space marines will be getting 2 supplement codexes though by the end of 2013, so again... chances are white scars will be one of them.

For the Blood Angels and Space Wolves players, fear not you will be getting full codex support and not just supplements.  Read between those lines.

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  1. So reading between the lines we get a Blood Angels codex and a Flesh Tearer's Supplement? :)

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    1. My guess is, that means the Black Templars won't get a a full codex...
      Still a Flesh Tearers Supplement would be nice. I like those World Eaters 2.0 somehow. ;-)

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    2. Sorry to post it here, but I'm dying to know .. is there an RSS feed for Fait212? I can't seem to find it, but I'd be suprised if it didn't exist.

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    3. I took it as to mean supplements should be expected for both blood angels and space wolves.

      I still have been told that every army is getting a codex. So as of right now, from this same source, I am still assuming Black Templar are getting a codex.

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    4. This screams Flesh Tearers and 13th Company to me. Which is REALLY cool!

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    5. I could swear that the GW team said they'd not be killing off any codex. Besides, the Black Templars are a gold mine, think of all the specialists units they could make you buy.

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    6. The Daughters of the Emperor shall return!

      No, but seriously, I think they're just planning a Dark Eldar-style revamp for next year as a "big surprise." It could make tons of money.

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    7. Why would there be a supplement for Space Wolves? They ain't got no successor chapters, and all the great companies are pretty much the same.

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    8. Yeah, 13th company, or maybe even wolf brothers before they all died.

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    1. Do they have any notably different successors? I'm not sure they do, and their codex includes 3 almost separate armies as is (Ravenwing, Deathwing and Green Marines)

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    2. Cypher and The Fallen on a comeback tour, methinks.

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    3. Yeah also though of a Fallen variant of the DA's.

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    4. I doubt Dark Angels will ever get a supplement, however that's not to say that Forgeworld won't pick them up in the future some time.

      They've done variant lists and new characters for space marines in the past. (particularly across the Badab War books)

      A variant unforgiven list might be something to look forward to.

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    5. How about a DW supplement that makes them a force to reckoned with? Some real death star action, two wounds, more wargear, specialized psykers?

      I mean, I'm obsessed with this chapter and could bang out some house rules. They could sure pull it off and bring back to glory like a few of us expected from the DA codex. Heh, Codex: Ravenwing.

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    6. There are like 5 or 6 successor chapters for the DA. What is the definition of notable? Having a novel made about you? A piece of fluff in the codex? The point would be to sell books and models. BA have what, 3 successors? Flesh Tearers are more deserving?

      As to the 3 armies in one dex thing... That really doesn't apply as DW and RW are all but useless in this edition as a stand alone.

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    7. it doesn't really matter, as soon as the space marine codex releases it will be R.I.P. dark angels. they are already sub par and they get worse with each new codex released.

      sadly I waited 7 years to get a decent codex only to be disappointed again (and again and again, going all the way back to 2 nd edition now), luckily I have a ravenguard, and blood Angel (another terrible 6th army) force as well.

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    10. I'd like to see the Iron wing appear also the green wing needs more work. The codex feels incomplete so hopefully they'll be a sup for the Dark Angels.

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  3. Space Wolves 13th Company may be back? Thoughts anyone.

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    1. Oh GW I would buy the hell out of (buy one copy) of 13th company!

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  4. I just get the picture of Oprah Winfrey going around saying "You get a supplement! You get one! EVERYONE gets a supplement!"

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    1. Lol, look under your chairs, supplements for all.

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    2. whoa. Too much knowledge about how that goes down.

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  5. They did report "..not JUST supplements..."

    So every codex will eventually get supplements.

    For the people who are about to complain that their already existing 6th edition codex didn't get one: shut up. You will. At this clip, all codices will be up to date before Avengers 2 comes out, and since 6th edition is built to last, what else will they do? That's right: pump out supplements and splash releases.

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    1. Which should be very easy, since the Iyandin supplement had only 2 pages of rules that had anything to do with 40k. The rest of the book was worthless. At 49.50 I can say I will not be buying one for only 2 pages of extra rules.

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  6. As a tournament organiser it's going to be a massive headache to check army lists when they come from potentially 4 different books (codex and supplement for primary and allies). In some ways I like the idea of supplements but essentially its like DLC on video games, it means they don't have to make the initial codex all that brilliant as they can just release supplements.

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    1. Do what we do - require Army Builder validated army lists. Compare them against the published bug lists.

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    2. The Iyanden codex includes the caveat that your ARMY can only include one supplement, so it's only 3 codexes. But yes, your point still stands.

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    3. if you read in the supplement of iyanden it states that you can only use "1 supplemental codex per army" so if you want to use one you will have to pick between your main force or your allied force

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    4. As someone who uses battlescribe, requiring Army Builder sadly means I can't/won't attend.

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    5. Yet even AB is not reliable. Generally it takes them about 1 month to get any book updated, then several months of patching after. The DA dex on AB still allows for 2 sacred banners in its validation.
      Battlescribe is nice, but it doesnt update often enough, and if you play anything GW and cannot afford $16-$25 a year for the sub, then you are buying way too many armies.

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  7. Remember they (rumor monger) said that they would release army updates on a regular basis to help fill the voids/gaps in each army. This must be how they are doing it. I think its a good thing although I wonder how they will do a Dark Angels supplement. I would think one of the successor chapters but that doesn't seem right.

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    1. Could they do something clever with the Fallen?

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    2. I'd love it to be so but that may be too clever.

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  8. First paragraph is probably a load of drivel, Hastings already said there would be a White Scars supplement codex and its pretty damn obvious the Wolves/Blood Angels aren't being rolled into a supplement.

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  9. I have not looked at a Supplement codex yet but does anyone know if there is any rule that forces you to purely play Iyanden. For an example If I say I'm using the supplemental codex Iyanden then the only way I can field Eldrad is if I take a secondary detachment? Or can you freely mix and match the rules with out a care of the fact that you are supposed to be playing a pure Iyanden force?

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    1. Watch Natfka's new video on the subject. You can take Eldrad and non Iyanden guys in an Iyanden army.

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    2. Wow I hope they FAQ the Iyanden Sup Dex to say that if you choose to play Iyanden they you can not select Eldrad to be an HQ for any of your detachments. You can only have Eldrad in your army if you choose to ally with Eldar. I think its just plain dumb how I can say I'm playing Iyanden yet have my army a mix of all different craftworlds. Just my 2 cents.

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    3. Back in the day, choosing a special supplement came with drawbacks and limitations which prevented stuff like that. Jervis once wrote an editorial in White Dwarf about how they are moving towards less limitations because they are too restrictive in the sense that sometimes you may want to do something out of the ordinary but can't.

      So this way, fluffy people can still build their army fluffy and by the story, but some dude who wants to make a story where Eldrad is staying the night on Iyanden when suddenly, Blood Angels show up! and make a mess, and they are like OH NOES we need a beefy Farseer! and Eldrad is like I GOT THIS, -cast doom-, eat it Mephiston.

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  10. If each chapter is getting one, (minus the ones with full support) could this suggest Codex Space Marines will update ALL loyal space marine chapters? Then they each gets either a suppliment or full to make them unique.

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    1. Within reason, I should think. For example, Ultramarines really shouldn't get one because they are the quintessential Astartes chapter. Neither should Mantis Warriors, Doom Eagles, Marines Errant, etc. They all follow the codex Astartes to the letter.

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  11. I have it on good authority that the second marine supplement willl be imperial fists. As for dark angels and others, sho saysnit has to be army based. Could be a specific campaign like piscina 4 getting a supplement with special missions etc for the dark angels, or wargear, traits etc? We dont know enough after just one supplement.

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    1. I'd buy an Imperial Fist book twice just to appease Dorn.

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    2. Hope not. Aside from maybe army-wide Feel No Pain and Stubborn, I don't see how the Imperial Fists are different enough to warrant their own supplement.

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    3. ehm... have you seen the iyanden supplement? actual rules take 2 pages, of which one is gear, and another half is warlord traits table. so in fact there's half a page of unique rules... i guess they can come with something like that even with IF...

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    4. GW's version of the Siege Assault Vanguard: siege dreadnought mobs and the ability to re-roll armor saves.

      One can dream to have the Emperor's own finally get the spotlight after the HH.

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  12. C'mon Raven Guard supplement. I'd be the happiest guy alive

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    1. Carcharodons, even though they are FW, please please please. Most bad ass Chapter and Raven Guard successor around.

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  13. Grots. I want an all Gretchin supplement.

    It's going to be a bit expensive to get all the books now.

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    1. I was thinking that too. They're already pumping out codices like mad, adding an extra $50 is putting them outside my willingness to learn range. maybe that's a good thing, but in reality 2 pages of rules doesnt leave me feeling that left out and again considering the price i wont feel bad pdf'ing those two pages into my normal book

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  14. I just want a Sisters of Battle codex. My poor Sisters. Sigh.

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    1. Agreed. Of all the armies that truly need an update, it'll be the sisters, how long will the current half-assed WD Codex last before it crumbles into dust? Unfortunately I'd say that the poor girls will be one of the last to get an update...

      I remember reading somewhere that the Design team did start doing them, but they ran out of enthusiasm/inspiration to carry the project through, so the whole thing was stuck on ice.

      That's what I read anyway :(

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    2. @ Paul.

      It didn't go on ice, all the girls got dropped and the work was re-hashed into Grey Knights. I mean, seriously, look at the Dreadknight. It was BLANTANTLY a sculpt for a new Penitent Engine and then they stuck a Marine on it instead.

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  15. Enough suspense, just tell me now GW will you give anything tot he Boys in Black or are the Templars going to be killed off!!! Either way I just need to know , this is getting painful.

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    1. like said above, My understanding is that no codex is getting squashed.

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    2. Natfka, I recall a long time ago (past year) a GW rep or writer (Cant remember who is was, I thought it was from a games day, but couldn't find) was quoted to say that every existing codex was to get a new book. I am asking because I cant recall if the quote said a new book, or a new codex. If the quote was codex, then it is safe to assume they meant codex. If the quote was book, that could mean codex or supplement.

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  16. Would the black Templar fans be happy with a supplement?

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    1. Id be happy with any form of concrete news at this point...

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  17. On the subject of codexes, Black Library has just sent out an email advertising the Eldar codex in ebook format (mobi and epub, not interactive like the iOS iBook format) for £19.99. They are also doing a bundle with 3 short stories from the Carnac Campaign for £24.00.

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    1. The bundle saves £0.50 and three clicks!

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  18. Don't realy believe in chaos supplemnts until I see them, this sounds a bit too much like wishlisting.

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  19. Would love a salamander supplement codex

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  20. Hopefully the CSM one will allow specific rules for the other renegade chapters which would be immensely cool and make total sense. Unfortunately this is GW we are talking about so it is more likely it will be solely about the Crimson Slaughter..

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    1. seriously, so many fn'ing headliners they could have picked and they focus on a worthless no name faction of nothing. I was pretty upset to see that. I would love to see the iron warriors get their own book but I'm not holding my breath.

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  21. Do you want to see the Alpha Legion be the first chaos supplement?

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  22. What about supplements for the 2 lost chapters?

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  23. Hopefully we wont be waiting too long for Chaos Legions and if they do them, preferably God flavoured rather than vanilla.

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  24. Hopefully we wont be waiting too long for Chaos Legions and if they do them, preferably God flavoured rather than vanilla.

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    1. Because you can take cult troops as standard if you take a general with the appropiate mark there is no need for a special supplement for them.
      The most logical candidates would be Alpha Legion or Night Lords, simply because their traits are not reflected in the book.

      Personally I would like to see Word Bearers, but because we have a (bad) Dark Apostle already I doubt this will happen.

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  25. Considering the number of armies and possible supplements for each one, it could take years for all of them to be released. I am liking the idea but the time scale involved seems huge.

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    1. I doubt it.

      I keep hearing no codices are getting lost.

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  27. *crosses fingers for an iron warriors supplement

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  28. Night Lords would be awesome. Raptors as Troops would be a good place to start. Also lots of rules around stealth night fighting and fear.

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