I went through and collected the latest rumors for Tau going back about 5 months, simply because I wanted to get them all collated and posted up on its own page later today. So you can look forward to seeing the this large compilation and seeing it updated as new information arrives.


There is a lot of playtest material here, and the most current rumors are discussing playtest rules that seem to be coming from late last year. So it seemed relevant to check from the latest bits all the way into last  November to see what was going on.


Tau Uber Suit Stats, Kroot Monster, and Vespid Skooters


February 6th

via Stickmonkey on Bols Lounge
The information I recently provided BigRed comes from a late 2012 playtest, I believe Oct or Nov timeframe.

The psychic defense boost I mentioned was described as Tau are just harder to target with warp powers, they have very little presence in the warp. I asked my source more on this, and he said during playtest all Tau got a DtW reroll. Tau in Suits got a 5+ DtW.

The Kroot monster is very cool looking, but I fear rules wise its going to suffer from Pyrovore syndrome. Its expensive, and shortlived. A beast in CC, but it's hard to get it there. Roughly the size of a Maulerfiend, its like a hybrid between the Krootox and the Great Knarloc. Beaked head. 4legged. Over muscled. Kinda apelike pose and body structure.

The "uber-suit" is NOT at all like a wraithlord. It is not suited for CC, and really cant be outfitted for that role. Last I saw the T was only 7, but others are saying it is T8. I was talking about it with my source earlier and he made mention of the plasma weapon having ignore cover and thinking it will be the load out of choice. He felt that it was very balanced points to capability wise for its role in the codex. Visual wise it is definitely in line with the battle suit. Reminds me a lot of the old BattleTech line merged with Tau aesthetic.

 Profile I saw was WS3 BS5 S5 T7 W3 I3 A2 L8, again a lot of noise with differing statlines, so the final stats wont be known until we see the book..

I don't think the Vespid Scooter made the cut. It was in a number of early drafts, kind of like the genosian fighters in Star Wars. Yes, flying creatures with a flying vehicle... Named after a famous motorized bike.... 80s GW may have done this, not 10s.



Are These Real? Krootox Giant Rumors and Firewarriors BS4?


February 5th

I want to say that this bit comes from a very much in the know source, who occasionally helps us filter through some of the rumors. The last few days we have had 4 sets of Tau rumors, and this email is in response to this one, and clarifying other rumors that are putting Firewarriors at BS4.

the krootox giant has the following rules and stats - these I believe will change as we have had much discussions upon this unit and cannot be certain if it is powerful enough for a competitive environment.
Krootox Giant:   WS   BS   S    T   W    I    A    LD    SV                                6      3    8   6     4    1   5     7       4+
Special rules:  Smash, monstrous creature, rage,mental without control, move through cover,fleet
mental without control: If your krootox giant loses his krootox rider then the Giant must pass a leadership test every turn otherwise will attack the closest enemy unit. If the Giant cannot reach a target then it misses it next turn while it cools down.

via the Faeit 212 inbox (has to remain anonymous)
I've never seen those kroot giant rules before (currently named the Krootonne).

There is a new large kroot model, but it's nothing like what's written, doesn't have a rider and doesn't have guns.

Fire warriors can't be upgraded to bs4, the squad leader has an upgrade that raises their BS though for (currently) 50 points and goes away if he dies.

I have like three versions of the rules, but I think some people are wish listing after getting hint of some stuff that's leaked.



Tau Flyer, Uber Suit, and Pyschic Defense


February 5th

via Stickmonkey over on Bols
Caveat: Many of these are said to be "in process".  Don't look for *exact match* rules to survive to the printed codex.

Units
Ethereals: These now grant army wide special rules and bubble rules, but there are different options. They function roughly much like those recent Dark Angels banners. So one option might be army wide Ld rerolls while in play, plus units in 12" are fearless. Another option might be one unit in army gets salvo once per turn, and all units in 12" get rerolls to hit.

Kroot: Everyone's favorite birdmen get Scout, Furious Charge, Move thru Cover. Kroot Hounds and Kroot hawks! Shaper can unlock additional unit upgrades.

"Sneaky Kroot": Look for an ELITES Kroot unit that can hide in terrain like Ymgarl Genestealers.

Knarloc: The new big beasty model, very similar to the Forgeworld Great Knarloc (see below). Monstrous Creature, with a trample attack allowing it to run 3d6" and cause 2d6 S6 AP6 wounds to any unit it crosses. It may additionally use this special move to charge a unit, gains +2A and the assault-grenades ability when charging in this manner.

Vespid: The maligned bug men are redeemed! Big improvements, weapon range increase, point reduction, hit and run.

Vespid Flyer: Smallest flyer in game, like a jetbike, single blaster as weapon, vector-dancer

Fortifications: Deep striking turrets as fortification options. Burst cannons or missile pods options.

Tau Flyer Transport: 13 13 12 armor, holds a full Fire Warrior or Crisis Suit squad, or single Uber-suit. Not a lot of weapons, but HP:3, and has a save from wargear that can be taken. Deep strike. Rules-wise is focused on getting units reliably to a location.

The Uber-suit: So many options currently it's hard to keep them straight. It's a mobile weapon platform, with rail guns as it's main weapon system, - which can be upgraded to a plasma weapon system or ion cannons. Classified as monstrous creature. 2+/4++ save. It can forgo shooting and movement to gain 2++ save. The Uber can move as jump infantry if it does not shoot it's main weapons. VERY HIGH toughness, no existing weapon can instant death it. Although it can smash if it has to, it is not designed as a close combat unit at all. Cost is comparable to a Terminator squad. It can take drone support.

Odds and Ends
FOC: Some specific HQs move Crisis Suits to troops. One moves two Kroot units to troops.

Psykers-defense: All Tau have some base immunity to psychic powers, and thus any Tau unit can deny the witch, with the suits gaining an  improvement to this roll.



Tau: Stealth Suits, Sky Ray, and More.




February 4th
via Stickmonkey over on the Bols Lounge
Caveat: Many of these are said to be "in process".  Don't look for *exact match* rules to survive to the printed codex.

Crisis Suits: Look for more posable new models. Unit keeps its high level of customization, with several upgrades to stat lines possible. New flakk missile pods. New combi-kit includes Broadside parts.

Stealth Suits: Models unchanged. Have stealth, (obviously), plus optional drone granting shrouding.

Sky Ray: Last edition's trainwreck gets a new lease on life. Flakk missiles, plus has orbital bombardment (much like SM version, but with a lingering effect).

Fire Warriors: Same nasty gun. Still BS:3, but with a Shas'O can upgrade unit to BS:4.

Equipment
Drones: Any drone can be used for Look Out Sir rolls for any model in the unit they are attached to.

Markerlights: A single hit increases BS of all other units targeting the victim by +1. Multiple markerlights have no additional effects. OUCH - look out for possible BS:5, Fire Warrior volleys now! Markerlights improve snapfire against marked flyers to 5+ instead of 6, but must first hit the flyer with a 6 themselves.

Networked Markerlights: A longer range twin linked version. Vehicles only.



More Tau Rules: Wargear and the Krootox Giant




February 4th
via the Faeit 212 inbox
War gear:
Gatling ion blaster: 30''   S:6    AP:3   Assault:3
plasma storm blaster: 40''   S:9    AP:1    Assault:1 (lance,system failure,implosion)

lance: rulebook

system failure: If you score a glancing or a penetrating hit on a roll of a 6 you cause a system failure in the enemy tank/flyer. The tank/flyer cannot move or shoot for the remainder of the turn. The tank/flyer controlling player must roll  a d6 every turn for the remainder of the game, on a roll of 1 the tank/flyer has a system failure again and may not shoot or move again.

implosion: if you score a explosion on a tank/flyer then it explodes 2d6 inches instead of the normal d6.


The new big kroot model is actually the krootox giant, from what I have been told fluff points to the tau making the krootox genetics being advance and in doing this increasing the size, strength and toughness.

the krootox giant has the following rules and stats - these I believe will change as we have had much discussions upon this unit and cannot be certain if it is powerful enough for a competitive environment.

Krootox Giant:   WS   BS   S    T   W    I    A    LD    SV
                                6      3    8   6     4    1   5     7       4+

Special rules:  Smash, monstrous creature, rage,mental without control, move through cover,fleet

mental without control: If your krootox giant loses his krootox rider then the Giant must pass a leadership test every turn otherwise will attack the closest enemy unit. If the Giant cannot reach a target then it misses it next turn while it cools down.

this unit at the moment costs : 200pts & can upgrade it's armour save to 3+ with a piece of war gear from the kroot armoury





The Latest in Tau Rumors: Kroot Monsters and Walkers



February 3rd
via the Faeit 212 inbox
I have been seeing a lot of play testing for the tau empire and have seen some new models as well. They look so new and epic it makes me really excited. Now I did my hands on some rules and names for units, If you are to pass these on then PLEASE send it to only reliable rumour sites.

I will start with the new sky ray orbital blast ability. From what I can remember on top of my head is that the sky ray has to forgo his full turn of shooting for a single unlimited range blast that is:

strength X AP 3 (wound on 2+,plasma corrosion, blast)
plasma corrosion - any enemy model hit under the blast rolls a d6 every turn for the remainder of the game on a roll of 1-3 the unit or model suffers d6 strength 4 AP5 hits. On a roll of 4-5 the unit suffers 2d6 strength 5 AP 4 hits. On a roll of a 6 the unit is hit with 2d6 strength 6 AP 2 hits with the blind special rule. (these are test rules and subject to change)

Tau fire warriors will have the OPTION to upgrade their tau fire warriors to bs 4 (I put option in bold to show it is an option for all those fluffy players)
I believe the upgrade at the moment is being called 'advance training'

battle suits are getting/got new models but have the same profile as now with the inclusion of an option to make them toughness 5 (cost or name is unknown)

The kroot is getting a HUGE monster that looks like something from fantasy. It has kroot riding it but is under going constant rule changes due to either dying to quickly or for lack of usage. From what I remember seeing it has 5 wounds but only a 5+ save and was over priced IMO.

kroot gain furious charge and move through cover and start with a 6+ save that can be upgraded to 5+ with shaper for an additional 2pts per model (making them 8pts per model) - remember this could change!

finally their is options to make all your battle suits have 2+ saves for 20pts per model - all war gear that is in the current codex has been reduced slightly.

the tau dread knight walker rumours you have read are 100% TRUE - I have seen the concept art/profile and from the top of my memory it is something like this.

WS  BS  S   T   W   I   A   LD   SV
 4     4    6   8   4    2   4    8    2+/4+

I will not share rules because they were on the next page of document of which I did not see. I did see the points which were : 210pts

note the points were highlighted in red marker which means they are subject to change at next play testing.



Black Templar, and Authors of Upcoming Codices

January 11th
via a well connected anonymous source in response to the earlier rumor linked below
All of those are accurate, but it's an air caste pilot who is tau, not an alien. 

There are some expanded vespid options being explored and the Tau empire is really being fleshed out as a commerce driven "all are welcome if they serve the common good" attitude. 

the current schedule calls for Daemons in feb and flyers in march. 

A fantasy update in April and then it's 40k and a little bit of hobbit from May to August with a new supplement and then a big launch in September for 40k, then a fantasy fall and shares Christmas. 

Anything more than 2-3 months away though is subject to change except that this summer is getting a really awesome 40k supplement. 



The rumor above is a response from a different source to the following rumor that is from earlier today.


via an internal Games Workshop source
Next White Dwarf will feature aerial battle using campaign of fire rules and NEW flyers

Tau receive a flyer and data sheet for it.  Fast attack choice. Armor 11 all around. Non tau pilot. Looks like a manta ray flying backwards.  Bs 4 super sonic. S6 ap4 missiles. Off center gun heavy 6 str 5 ap 4 twin linked or single small blast Str 8 ap 2. 

Eldar flyer and data sheet for it. Very similar stats to dark eldar flyer has missile lock, has distortion missiles.smaller fighter looks like elongated vyper.

The harpy for tyranids. Nothing to note. Not a dual kit.  
The final surprise.  A fourth flyer.  The long awaited dark eldar bomber

Nov 30th 2012
via shaso_iceborn 
I think orks will see a new model wave come Q1 2013
End of April still considered first quarter?

If Jan is Dark Angels and Feb is Daemons, March is probably more hobbit stuff. Maybe April for Orks, then May for Fantasy, with Tau in June?
That's what I expect too, though I have heard to expect to start hearing about Tau a lot in March but they will be released in June.


Nov 29th 2012
Yesterday on Faeit 212, we had posted up conflicting playtest rumors regarding a large battlesuit for Tau. Comments and thoughts on whether or not a people would rather have a Monstrous Creature or a Walker stepping into that role brought about a few playtester comments, or at least people claiming to be so.

I figured I would add those comments to a post so that you don't have dig through 60 comments to find them.

I would love to hear more from playtesters on this model, things like, were is it located in the FOC, weapons profiles, and possibly a quick discussion on the increase in broadside pt values.

Please remember that these are comments on yesterday's discussion. Here are the links to the posts from yesterday if you did not yet get a chance to read them.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/11/tau-battlesuits.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/11/tau-walker-rules.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/11/tau-dreadknight-rumors.html

via Anonymous playtest Comments on Faeit 212
I tested this battlesuit. That startling is correct, the 4+ invul. Comes from a shield generator. It does not have Inteceptor/skyfire

the "Big Battle Suit" I tested was noted as being on the large oval base, it's picture showed that it is VERY similar in design to the Golden Daemon Bot. It comes with the Rail Cannons if you would like for it to. It has BS 4 similar to the Hammerhead. It again, follows that profile. People are wondering is what it offers instead of the Broadsides. First, it's more flexible. Second, it can't be instant deathed (by high strength weaponry). Lastly, broadsides have gone up in cost slightly. What do broadsides provide? Dedicated anti tank and more railguns for the price. I find it likely that more dedicated tau armies will opt for the "Big Battlesuit" and more allied contingents will opt for broadsides.



29 Comments:

  1. Really getting excited about Tau. If even half of these rumors pan out, it's going to be a great reboot for them.

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    1. Half would be a Record in rumor acurate being!

      I expect smth more like DAs... 4 New Units... and rebalancing of Old stuff. Whats Bad now will be Good and anything that is still playable will be nerfed.

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  2. I want to be able to finally play an all kroot army without having to use a master shaper with wings and crazy ass guns as a battlesuit commander!

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    1. But that actually sounds pretty cool for a commander! Maybe it's just my ork mentality creeping out :P

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  3. We've been drooling for some concrete Tau news as well. I'm sure there is a huge contingent of players looking for new goodies.

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  4. It feels so close yet to far.......

    I recall back in 2011 getting a massive dump of Tau rumors and thinking they were close......

    http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2011/12/tau-rumor-compilation-updated.html

    I feel like this is some cruel joke by GW on Tau fans, playing yo-yo with our hopes.....

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    1. Yeah
      But you pickend the wrong Army if you want constant playabiliy... you have to go for 1 of the Main Armys. SMs Orks Eldar IG

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    2. LOL Eldar?!?

      What codex have you been reading since 6th came out? The Tau are slightly more viable than Eldar in this new environment; Eldar can't assault out of transports which gives their premier anti-MEQ Banshees no reliable delivery mechanism, holo-fields are next to useless now so our expensive skimmers are now even less survivable thanks to any hit removing a hull point, Dire Avengers get comparitively worse with each new codex thanks to being outranged by almost every other ranged troop type, Guardians...just LOL. I could go on but it's not really worth it. The codex itself is a synergistic as it's always been but over half the units have antiquated rules and Forgworld support aside it really needs some attention. At least the Tau still have highly effective XV-8x suits, Fire Warriors improved with the new rapid fire and their skimmers are probably the best in the game.

      TL;DR - Eldar do not equal constant playability lol

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    3. 2+ rerollable cover saves say otherwise. :T

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  5. nonetheless, good job collecting the rumors!

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  6. I refuse to get my hopes up as we have been crapped on numerous times with false Tau rumors... believe them if you will but I am going to wait until I have the codex in my hand...

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  7. I am a huge Tau fun. I love the lore, the suit's stuff, the Greater Good idea, i am not playing the table top, i just collect the miniatures, that's why i am so exited about new codex. Hope Tau become trully uber. After all they are the hope of universe :)

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  8. Am I the only one sitting at a computer hitting the F5 buttons while singing Tom Petty's "Waiting(is the hardest part)" in my head?

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    1. Nope - I'm just waiting for the first leaked pictures. I'm hopeful now, but Tau rumors have been coming in hot and heavy for two years now.

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  9. ORKS PLEASE GW! I want my plastic Meganobz.

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    1. And will probably be next in line for a lawsuit for shamefully ripping off GW's IP.

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    2. @Warlord22: where? Kromlech's made cybork bits but no meganobz
      @Mauler: Kromlech's been around long enough that I think they've worked their way around IP issues. Or they have so far at least!

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  10. i still don't get the DtW rumors. every unit can already deny the witch, with the exception of vehicles, right?

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    1. The rumor us saying that Tau can reroll a failed DtW save, and so can Batllesuits, but at a 5+ cause suits rock.

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    2. whoops, i totally processed 'reroll' as just 'roll.' thanks!

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  11. Thanks natfka! Great job. Some of my wishlist is looking promising, now if they will just upgrade the drones...

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    1. Just need to be a little cheaper. Drones are great in their current guise, they annoy everyone by jumping in the way of their potential assaults!

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  12. That Krotonne is begging to be steam rolled by Chaplains/Force-Stave Librarians. If it had better initiative or a 3+ that would make it much more viable, maybe allow it to move 12" like the Maulerfiend? Even make it cheap and you can take a "pack" of them. That would be interesting.

    Though the regular Kroot are exciting.

    Anyway, thanks for the comp!

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  13. With all the Tau rumors I thought this would fit best in this post. It's just to cool not to share!
    http://calabansworkshop.blogspot.com/2007/11/lit-up-shield-generator.html?m=1

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  14. The Krootonne. Finally, something among the sea of 2+/3+ saves that IG Primaris Psykers with force mauls are actually able to hurt! (Technically, they would be able to hurt Eldar/DE chars too, except that they will be very dead long before their I would allow them to strike.)

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  15. Thanks very much for compiling all of these rumours. Much appreciated!

    Will be interested to see new suit models. The old mould is just about dead ( suit parts don't fit together properly without a lot of rubber bands to hold it together 'til the glue dries)

    Krootonne? A big, expensive point soak that's melee only? I might build one, but it doesn't fit into effective Tau tactics, so it'll sit on the shelf..

    Like the idea of optional BS4 for firewarriors, and more roles for ethereals. Hopefully ethereals in body armour! :

    Lets's see how things are in six months.

    Hownowbrowntau



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