We often complain about how bad, or how this model (storm raven) could never fly, etc, but what happens when in the real world, something released as state of the art fails much worse.


Iran's state media wants the world to know the country has developed a new "super advanced" stealth fighter jet capable of "evading radars." In their statements they compared the new aircraft to the US F-22 and the F-35. From the size of the bolts along the fuselage and wings, to the size of the aircraft not being large enough to hold the equipment necessary for a stealth fighter, there are big issues with this new aircraft. In fact many experts are saying that this is a mock up, or a model, and the images of one flying (not taking off and landing) were a remote controlled plane.

"Overall, the plane seems to lack the characteristic rivets, bolts all aircraft, including stealthy ones, feature. Images released so far show it as a plastic-made aircraft," David Cenciotti, a military aviation expert, wrote on The Aviationist.

"It looks like the Iranians dumped some rudimentary flight controls and an ejection seat into a shell molded in what they thought were stealthy angles," national security reporter John Reed writes.

“This aircraft looks a lot like an old GI Joe toy,” wrote one blogger.

"A normal pilot doesn't properly fit in the ejection seat. Have you ever seen a pilot with his knees above the side borders of a the cockpit and his helmet well beyond the ejection seat's head pad?" David Cenciotti on the TheAvianationist.com

"The skin panels look very uch like they're made of the same fiberglass.. sheets a friend of mine acquired a few years ago to build his sailboat (although this stuff here appears to be of lesser quality). -Majumdar

"The Canopy seems to be made of poor quality Plexiglas with some really bad optical qualities. check out the distortion" -Majumdar






58 Comments:

  1. Maybe this is a model they plan to use in a computer game?
    For a sci-fi game this would look really nice! :-P

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  2. Can't tell if the article's title is sarcasm O.o

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  3. So what is this SHIT!!!

    are you doing PRO IRAN WAR propaganda?

    i don´t see how this has anything to do with miniatures games

    Keep youre US warmongering to youreself

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    1. It's got nothing to do with warmongering! It's an article about what is suggested to be a model and a poor one at that! The connection is that plenty of people moan about goofy miniatures when outside in the real world, people make genuinely goofy looking stuff to actually (allegedly) fight wars with. The extra information is probably just for those curious about the story behind this odd 'aircraft'

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    2. It had better be,, otherwise that is the prize winner for dumbest comment ever award.

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    3. Could it be?! Is Warlord22 really the DA anon?

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    4. @ Jon Wilko
      This has nothing to do with miniatures.
      How exactly does slating iran's new jet fighter have anything to go with games workshop?

      Besides as for its looks, it looks a billion times better than the crap that is the storm raven.

      This is the typical type of bullshit that only a fox news watching, ill-informed dumbass american would come out with

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    5. "Aren't You Glad Your Models Do Not Look This Bad: We often complain about how bad, or how this model (storm raven) could never fly, etc, but what happens when in the real world, something released as state of the art fails much worse."
      Sounded pretty miniatures related to me and that's how I took it. Personally, I preferred the Storm Raven to the look of that.
      And FYI; I do not watch fox news as I tend to stick with the good old BBC here in the UK, I wouldn't exactly consider myself ill-informed but hard to prove that in a blog comment section. Lastly, as I pointed out I am from the UK so I am not American and so have little interest in Iran. I have a degree and I actually work as a Paramedic carrying out procedures to save lives that you probably couldn't do so I'd hardly call myself a 'dumbass'.
      So I'd thank you not jump to conclusions jgascoine011, but in my innocence I put on my aviation hat and just saw a goofy looking plane.

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    6. Calm down. It's funny. Iran is the one warmongering, not a Olympic coast wargamming blogger who spends some of his free time to give you cool news and info. He saw a silly article about a plane that would fly like a sack of hammers, related it to the flying brick of 40k fame, and made a funny. You don't need to crucify the man over it.

      (also if you are going to begin spouting hate i suggest you take it elsewhere. Its that kind of stuff that got the comments shut down a couple of weeks ago. Be constructive or be quiet.)

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    7. It isn't a rant. where does he rant? There are pictures, some quotes, and him poking fun at incompetent designers of both models and obviously fake military hardware.He makes no statement other than "lets poke fun at the saturday morning cartoon villains of the real world" It doesn't take much to see the humor in the future tech of this militant nation having its components being manufactured by air hogs and matel. Its a joke. hahaha.

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    8. Have to agree with Warlord's comment. Iran is a country next to two country's that have been or are occupied by US forces. The US has been threatening war with them for decades and US, Iran, and Israel are engaged in name calling, acts of aggression, and denunciations since the fall of the brutal regime of the Shah in '79. I want that fuckfest and all it's brutal, nonsensical idiocy away from my hobby as far as possible.

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    9. This is Faeit's blog, and really, he's allowed to post whatever he pleases. He doesn't blog for a living, he does it as a service to us. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's that simple.

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    10. Warlord, if you can't see the link between talking about models that look like they shouldn't work and something that looks like a model that shouldn't work...well then I've got no advice for you that you'd want to hear.

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    11. It doesn't matter when whatever flier was released, the stormraven didn't cease to exist since its release so it's still relevant.
      I mean it's not like the title was "Iran Sucks" which of course WOULD be anti-Iran

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  5. Finally, a plane that makes Stormtalon look GOOD.

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  6. Haha I appreciate the point you're making here! But in truth I suppose that fantasy and science fiction models would in some ways look superior to real life machines in any event - after all, a GW miniature is created to look impressive and engaging whilst a real life piece of equipment is primarily designed for practicality.

    Although I've often found myself scratching my head about the Stormraven...

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    1. And yes you do :D I have seen those pics tons of Bugs!

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  8. Naftka thanks for the hard work you put into this blog, continue to write about whatever you want. After reading these comments I wouldn't blame you for disabling the comments again.

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  9. For what it's worth, the thing actually looks kinda good in the first shot. Beyond that? Not so much...

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    1. I was thinking the same thing: it LOOKS cool. Would never fly, but those Persians are great model makers, apparently.

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  10. As much as most of the comments on this article have been unnecessarily negative and completely out of line I must admit I get frustrated when I see articles like this. I check this site daily so I can keep up with "warhammer 40k news and rumours" as the title suggests, sometimes it feels like this blog has come off the track ... that being said nafta you do an excellent job when it does come to rumours etc so keep up the good work!

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    1. Isn't there usually an awkward gap between rumours?

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    2. Get over it juggalo17, because this is a blog and he can write whatever he wants to regardless of the title. I also have to echo Stephen Rocchio regarding the disabling of comments if necessary. I can't believe how uptight people are over this article.

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  11. I think people are forgetting that Natfka doesn't exist to simply filter GW rumours and present them on a platter to us!

    Its his blog, if he wants to post something slightly off topic its up to him. If you don't like it then trawl through warseer or some other forum for your rumours and see how quickly you come back here and learn to put up with someone posting something they feel like on their own blog!

    The whole reason I read and write blogs is so that I don't have to put up with this kind of forum style nonsense.

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    1. Being honest with you, I didn't realise Natfka was a person. I thought he was a government created Artificial Intelligence that escaped onto the internet and accrued rumours simply out of a computeristic sense of altruism to those of us who can't get girlfriends due to neckbeards not being sexy.

      Every days a school day I guess.

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    2. @ Calistarius.

      I know comments of 'lol' don't really contribute to the conversation but.... that was awesome mate. You win the internetz today.

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    3. there was nothing political about the post. its the comment section that has spun into political garbage. If I had posted about a new warplane that the US had just built, there would not be so much negativity here, except maybe about how that garbage costs the people.

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    4. oh come now. plenty of people would complain about our blood thirsty nature, and need to control the 3rd world, and our love for kicking puppies etc.

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  12. I think it is funny that they tout this plane as the real thing. Take a look at the last pic of it, What is the gap behind the pilot, I have never seen anything like that in any other plane ever. Also have a look at the same pic and the bottom edge of the canopy and where it meets the cockpit, how would they lock together, as in there is no locking mechanism and would simply fly apart as soon as it gets up to speed.

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  13. This is the funniest comments section I have read in a GW related blog in a long time. Outlandish projectile vomit typing along the lines of "OMG you war lovin imperialist SOB!" are not the kind of light hearted miniatures based posts I expected to read. Come on guys what exactly has the author done wrong? I personally think that plane looks a bit like the old (nay fictional) F-19 Ghostrider and probably cost less to build than what GW are asking for their current crop of flyers. Anyone got a link to the vid of it flying?

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    1. Tell me about it.. Propaganda?! I spat my cornflakes out! XD

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  14. I don't know. Aviation aside, I think it looks pretty cool.

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  15. Natflak,even though this is your blog, I feel this article is out of place

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  16. I thought it was great, Naftka, and got the joke right away. If you wanted to blog an article about pottery-making or gardening here, it would be your right & privilege to do so. Feel free to ignore these jerks. The pictures are awesome! That thing would never fly, much less be stealthy. As someone who takes a bit of pride in my conversions & modeling skills, I "get" the joke! Thanks for all the time you spend making sure we have something to read every day here, even on the weekends!

    (Get a clue, you pricks! It seems today is a "slow" day, 40K rumor-wise, and Naftka takes time out every freaking day to make sure there's something new here for you to read, 7 days a week. How dare you tell him what he can and can't do with his own personal blog!) :-(

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    1. (Sorry, Natfka, I keep typing "Natfka", but my stupid iPad keeps changing it to "Naftka" when I'm not looking, and it's impossible to go back & edit something once you're past it on this damn thing. To anyone who really thinks iPads will "replace" and "kill" traditional PCs, guess again...).

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  17. I hear that if you don't want to read something, you don't have to click it and read, much less post your crybaby comments.

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  18. Now if they only added the go faster red stripes

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    1. Why just stripes? Paint it all red and it'll go an extra 1" every turn xD

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  19. everyone's got an opinion even more so when it comes to politics its a funny looking plain that could never fly and all natfka posted was comments proving this i think the storm raven has more chance of flying than this thing oh and it is relevent as th plane is also a MODEL the internet it full of keyboard warriors who need to chill the feck out

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  20. +1 to all those that have given natfka his dues. His blog, his rules. I read cause this is an interesting and entertaining site - however that manifests.

    Although I'm thinking if you got that plane, throw it in a trash compactor, added some Hurricane bolters you wouldn't be able to distinguish it from a GW flier :P

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  21. WTH? Kilometre-long bawwwwwwwwwwing on a HUMOURISTIC, very much related post being "out of place" and "political" with irrational beliefs on how this reflects the imagined political viewpoints of Natfka?

    That said, I always preferred the Monogram interpretation over Testor. Too bad the latter has been republished several times over by Italeri, while the former isn't and I managed to accidentally dispose of the kit :(

    For conspiracy buffs, googling COSIRS or CSIRS will lead you on a hunt for the "real" F-19. Last time I checked, the consensus seemed to be that F-19 was not a single plane but several different kinds of one-off stealth prototypes.

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  22. I don't know, that plane's wings look like something outta Ace Combat series! So horrible looking!

    Natfka, seeing how some people are unable to compare items as your title suggests, you may need to put a header in the beginning so people can stop crying. Maybe, OT: Title ffor off-topic? But if you start that, people will cry that you do that for the Dark Age stuff or anything not relevant to 40k...

    I do not understand where people get the idea they can argue what a person puts on their blog.

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  23. Natfka, I sincerely hope all this negativity ends soon and it'll all go back to business as usual here. You do a great job and I'd hate you to stop because of us petty commenters!

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  24. Thanks guys, having now read through the comment section it was very entertaining here. For those that care, I am a news junkie first, 40k hobbyist second. But, when I saw this new stealth fighter, the first thing I thought of was the Stormraven.

    the above news clips and quotes come from everywhere, but were mostly collated on CNN who has this article on their front page.

    To answer the warmongering critics out there. Well, make of it what you will, and please spend some time with the comments. They are extremely entertaining.

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  25. I cannot tell, would this be for the Imperial Guard, or some new Eldar/Dark Eldar flyer?

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    1. I would say this is an Imperial plane of some sort. The Eldar & Dark Eldar flyers I've seen actually look like they could fly, whereas the Imperium seem to think "If we just put a big enough engine(s) on it, thatll do the trick!"... LOL!

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    2. I get the feeling that's how the Imperial fliers do work... look at all of them with the exception of like 2 FW fliers... they all just have bigger engines than they would need if they were just aerodynamic... hence all the directional thrusters.

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  26. We talk about models that don't need to really fly, so you can make them as realistic or unrealistic as you want: PRECISELY that's why they should be MORE realistic than even real planes. One can think that a plane like this one is ugly, but we can't (or as the OP says, we can) doubt it is REAL, we know someone designed it for flying, and althought we are not avionics experts, we got the "feeling" that the plane is real. That doesn't happen with our stormtalon or the stormraven, the look of the design is completely ridiculous, they lack the proportions that could be similar to what we expect for a flying object. Not everything is allowed simply because it is simply "a model". It is similar to make "special effects" in movie making: when the object is completely false and doesn't exist in reality (let's say a Tyranosaurus Rex) everyone can complain on how bad the effect is done, because YOU KNOW that doesn't exist and of course you know it has been "invented"... but has anyone noticed that some films used CGI models for SIMPLE cars or cabs around the street instead of using real cars?. When you see the Millenium falcon you know that doesn't exist but still find it appealing, still know that thing can fly, still seems hard, old, has personality... a good design can be realistic althought being a spaceship that travels to five points light speed... our stormtalons are not, they don't seem a scale model of a real thing, they seem the toy of a child.

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  27. Well, i found all warmongers comments as ridicolous as this fake plane.
    Firsto of all how could it be invisible to radars? I mean , look at its tcockpit... it's all wrong. I whpuld reflect radar waves as much as a Fiat Multipla.
    Also its wings are ridicoulsy small. It could be OK for a surveillance drone, not for a bomber !! It whould never lift its weight. Anyway, 40k is no way realistic. If it were , the tabletop should be several meters wide at the very least. It isn't even consistent with itself, else you whould have 1000 guardmen aganist 1 marine. Oh, and space elves.
    Bot who cares, it's cool , it's funny, its CINEMATIC, and that's enough. The storm raven maybe is not the best model, but others rock.
    PS all those morons complaining for this article... BOOOH !! how dense you are.

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  28. Oddly enough I actually like the Storm Raven and just assume that it uses anti grav to fly and the engines to go fast making lift from wings less relevant.
    Good job Natfka I love you blog and it’s always nice to have the odd curve ball post to read.

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  29. Only Orcs could make that bird work...

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