This week Daemons were revealed, and Chaos Daemons as we know them are on their last few final days.

Presence of Faeit is my weekly editorial. I generally report during the week what is going on, and today is my day to comment on what exactly it is that I am thinking of.


Chaos Daemons
It seems almost a rarity nowadays that I do not see screamers and flamers in a game. I would by far say they are the most common army in my circles. Not just because Daemons are what people are playing, but because Chaos Marine players are also utilizing them as much as possible. Out of my last 4 games, 3 had a large number of screamers and flamers.

I will have to admit, that the only reason I have never liked Daemons is because of their deployment. I just have never liked it all that much, from choosing what army I wanted to play, to playing against them. 

Even though Daemons are not my style of play (at least currently), I do appreciate variety on the tabletop. So I have extremely high hopes for this next codex release.

Without really knowing what is going on in the next codex, I will be holding any preconceived notions I might have of what I have learned until that beast is in my hands.

As for the look of the daemons. As a friend of mine that paints professionally said recently to me, there are two primary styles of painting.... the more comic style of more solid bright colors, and the more realistic approach. Now that I have seen the models, I want to see someone paint these with a much more realistic paint scheme. After all I want my daemons down and dirty.

Craftworld Eldar
When I first started playing Warhammer 40k back at the onset of 3rd edition, I ended up getting a lot of Dark Eldar Warriors cheaply, since they were the army opposite Space Marines in the starter set. So that is how I first got into the Dark Eldar. It was practical, and there is nothing more evil and sinister than those Dark Kin.

So back to the point I was going to make. When I first got into the game, it seemed that it took the best generals and the best hobbyists to collect and play Eldar. I always had it in my thoughts that one day, when I learn to paint, that I will dedicate myself to getting an eldar army. It looks like that day has finally arrived. Through some finagling (trading and selling some other stuff), I have managed to acquire an eldar army.

No idea on how many points are involved, but its several thousand points, estimated somewhere in the range of  8000pts. With this acquisition, alongside my large Dark Eldar force, I feel I am ready for any upcoming Eldar codex release, and of course to pair up with my Dark Eldar as needed.

Dark Eldar
So obviously Dark Eldar have been on my mind a lot lately, and I have been getting in more games with them. I believe its been three games in the last week. I have been running a harly death star in the last couple games, and found them to be a ton of fun.

What I have been doing is running raider escorts (to limit shots, create cover, and limit incoming flame and other templates that could damage my unit prematurely. It has been very effective in the last two games, and when combined with a large raider/ ravager force and trueborn splinter cannon squads (an amazing deal at 56pts each), it makes for a deadly combination list.











25 Comments:

  1. Curious as to what god you favor for daemoms, Natfka.

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    1. I have always favored Tzeentch, just by flavor, pink horrors etc. and I have always liked the models for the Soul Grinder. It will be interesting what happens in the new couple weeks.

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    2. Nice nice. Fluff wise i like tzeentch. Gameplay wise id have to say I like Nurgle.

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  2. Being a sexual deviant slaanesh has always appealed to me the most.

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  3. Personally I plan on doing a fun and fluffy mono-god army. Mostly because I really enjoy the....*twitch*....*twitch*......RAAAAAAAWWWWWRRGH!!!!!! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  4. Despite having a plague marine army (amongst many others -_-) nurgle might seem the obvious choice, but then I do like Khorne and to a lesser degree Tzeentch. Then I think I don't like Slaanesh but mono-slaanesh has a certain appeal, especially when allied to noise marines with guitars for sonic weapons ala 2nd edition... And to think I started with Daemonhunters! ><
    I guess the inquisition always has radicals xD

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  5. I am so fearing my mono Nurgle army is going to become even less viable in this dex, its not funny. Shiny new flies and beefed up beasts yes but when 6th is about troops and yours have just lost the very thing that made em good.. yeah, to say I'm worried is understatement.

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    1. Hold on there chicken little, the WD battle report says FNP is a purchasable upgrade for the herald. Yeh you'll probably have to go out of your way to keep him alive and snipers can be scary but you'll adapt and continue spreading pestilence as always I'm sure.

      P.S. from your name, am I right in assuming you created Mad Cow Disease? Nurgle would be proud.

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    2. Plague Bearers can now feel pain unless daddy is around?.. Yeah great sticking to the fluff. Why not give space marines the Daemon rule while we are at it..

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    3. FNP from a ICs doesnt always pass on to his Unit. Its also wierd for GW to delet a ability and put in an Option to get it.

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    4. And how do Death Guard get it as standard if Nurgles own Daemons do not?

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    5. @Calistarius

      Let's not forget precision shots, for shooting and assault. LoS! helps but is only 4+ for a non IC character. As Nurgle Burgers says, it's almost hilarious that Plague Marines get it as standard but daemons of Nurgle do not. However, let's see what the codex actually says when it comes out. Then I'll throw my toys out of the pram...;)

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    6. Ah yes I forgot it was 4+ for non-IC. My twin-linked devourer flyrant is very aware of precision shots though :)

      Still plague marines are what 24pts each? Plaguebearers are 15pts. I use nurgle daemons as allies for my Deathguard so I don't want them to get nerfed either but I agree, until we know more, there's no point in punting toys.

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    7. Ah yes I forgot it was 4+ for non-IC. My twin-linked devourer flyrant is very aware of precision shots though :)

      Still plague marines are what 24pts each? Plaguebearers are 15pts. I use nurgle daemons as allies for my Deathguard so I don't want them to get nerfed either but I agree, until we know more, there's no point in punting toys.

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    8. Plague bearers also don't have a 3+ save, WS 4, a shooting attack, or 2 attacks base via BP/CCW. The only thing that Plague Bearers can do is sit on an objective and roll 5++/5++, SOMETHING has to change to make them not suck, they are currently overcosted and or in need of something that makes the unit worthwhile. If we get a herald per troops choice from a god or something, maybe, just maybe, the change will be worthwhile. Even then it only makes up for the PB change. We've seen the stats on the beast and plague drones, neither are anything more effective than chaos spawn, so the real damage of the change is the loss of Heavy Daemon Princes, which may or may not be affected by some FOC shenanigans, my assumption being not.

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  6. Were I to collect Daemons, I really would like to build a Slaanesh army just because pr0n. Alas, their models look nothing like I would imagine based on the fluff; bald and lobster-fisted Daemonettes are not particularly alluring, for starters, so Prince/Princess of Darkness is definitely a no go. (Actually, DE Wyches are more what I would imagine the Daemonettes - and many other Slaaneshi followers - to look like. But then again, why build a DE force just to pretend it's really Slaanesh Daemons/CSM?)

    Tzeentch, meh. Creatures clearly based on the idea of a coral reef, watching which causing epileptic seizures, may be truly chaotic and thus fitting to the Ever-Changing, but it just does not inspire me in the slightest. The Mutalith Vortex Beast ("counts as" Maulerfiend with lasher tendrils, or Soul Grinder with tongue?) is a notable exception, then again, it looks like it's heading for the closest Japanese high school, which is of course an automatic win (pondering the chance for a diorama here, one involving Blood Bowl cheerleaders).

    That leaves Big Daddy N, because dragging your entrails is always fun, and if one considers Plague Marines, kitbashing CSM with Zombies and Skeletons is winrar. Generally, Papa Nurgle's diseased followers get my converting urges to itch, which is precisely what is required when starting an army. The Plaguefather's minions also look so cute and cuddly that you almost want to hug them, which is apparently what they want to do to you as well. Awww.

    Also, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, because the Medieval artists were definitely onto something when reimagining the Devil; the latest fad in a long line of imagery stuck surprisingly well and quickly displaced the earlier ones from collective memory, and is still just as groovy today as it was back then. Glad that GW has not reinvented the wheel but kept 'letters and 'thirsters looking like big L. Even the Slaughterbrute would fit right in as "counts as" Soulgrinder or Maulerfiend in a Khornate host. Plus the Berserkers bring good vibes, what with their positive attitude on life (and ending those of others).

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  7. Tzeentch has been my favorite god since I started daemons (and 40k) two years ago, and I felt... I don't know, slighted, when my favorite units, flamers and screamers, went mainstream. Before I felt all special that I preferred them over Fiend and bloodcrusher spam, then everyone started using them...

    If they stay the same, but more expensive, I'll be fine with that. If they make Breath of Chaos or Screamers AP3... I might stop playing 40k. I just don't have the cash to re-do my army again.

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  8. Not sure if this is the right place or not, or even if this is news. But I just checked the ipad pre order and daemons have a "dedicated transport" section. Been playing since second ed and cant remember daemons ever having a transport.

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    1. Weirder still is what is the dedicated transport?

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    2. I suspect the dedicated transports will be the various chariots that the heralds can ride into battle.

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  9. I play Slaanesh and snowtrooper is right! No way in Hell will I field one of those stupid new demonette models. GW is trying to make an X rated idea PG. But you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube! Worshippers of the Princess of Pleasure love metal, drugs, pleasure, pain, sexy bitches(sometimes with dicks), and killing too! So here's the deal; I don't use the new crab clawed, saggy titted, ugly bitches. I use the old ones and also convert succubi that I pick up from other miniature companies.
    Dont care that I can't play them at a GW store because I would never chance subjecting somebody under 18 years to the graphic nature of the models.
    As a side note...Anybody who plays Chaos Undecided needs to learn how to make those difficult life decisions.

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    1. What's wrong with undivided? Not everyone is in it for the fluff. Personally, I love building an army, painting and playing it, and writing it's story.
      But if some people see nothing but statlines and point costs, I'm not going to tell them how to hobby. If you consider which god to choose, within an army, a "difficult life decision," you may need to step back and look at the game as a game, not a way of life.

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    2. Hm. I play Word Bearers and so I play Undivided - and up until we lost the Lesser and Greater Daemons entries in the CSM codex, I played it pure, as in. none of the major Gods: all my daemons (30, plus Herald and Greater Daemon) are converted - http://www.flickr.com/photos/77042720@N05/6918038334/in/photostream.

      They're presently 'counts as', but I'm hoping that ground-based Furies rumour works out...

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  10. Contests on the Eldar army. They're one of the harder armies to play and paint in my opinion, but they extremely rewarding to do so.

    The models are gorgeous even without paint delicately applied and when they are so eccentric when it comes to play style it will most definitely make you a better 40k player.

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