Death From the Skies has been one of the most difficult supplements to figure out exactly what is in it, and more importantly if I want it. (of course I do). First off, I do not have the book, and I will probably get it down the road as it becomes available again.


So what is in this book? Should you get it? This post I hope helps you make that decision. I have several emails here from the Faeit 212 inbox, and an insert from a post about the changes the book brings to the game from Shadowcl4w.

I do not think this book is necessary to have for most people, and its debatable on whether or not a Black Templar and Space Marine player really needs to own it. After all the FAQ's really dig in give us a lot of the changes and updates to the rules that are found in the book.

Here is the latest info on the new compendium

Death From the Skies

Sold Out
via the Faeit 212 inbox
With all the craziness over Death from the skies I thought this was interesting. I got an email from GW this morning that said although I had ordered the book on the first day it was available, they sold so many more copies than expected that my copy would not ship until March 4. As an apology they included a $25 redemption code. To add to the wackiness I got this email 4 times in 10 minutes. Unfortunately it was the same redemption code each time, so no I did not get $100.
The idea that it sold so well is certainly interesting given the weirdness of its release.


Contents 
via the Faiet 212 inbox
Just received my Death From The Skies and thought people might like to know what's in it. In terms of naming me as the source, I don't mind.



Book is in full colour and the cover is glossy but NOT hardback!

Contents:
Introduction...3

The Battle For Cardrim...5-22
- this is the white dwarf narrative with the white scars, orks and necrons from the issues that the ork jet/stormraven rules were released in

Air War Missions...23-31
- 4 flier themed missions based on the battle for Cardrim, may have been published in white dwarf previously (don't have it to hand to check)

Burning Skies...33-43
- Crusade Of Fire extra flier rules

Showcase...44-55
- gallery of fliers

Bestiary...56-63
- entries for all aircraft, stormtalons are space marine/black templar only, no space wolf options, fighta-ace ork dakkajet option now called Flyboss (other entries may be slightly different too but I'm not familiar enough with them)

Wargear...64-67
- Stormstrike Missile (for space marine/black Templar stormravens) are R72" S8 AP2 Heavy1 Concussive, one use only (but stocked as four)

Army List...68-71

Reference...72
- usual back page summary


There may be some changes I haven't picked up on but overall this is just a compendium of updated rules.

Hope this is helpful for people curious about the book. For me it will be useful for the rules as I detest carrying around FAQ pages with rulebooks and the book appears to be of good quality so it should last longer than the original white dwarf issues. Not trying to push it on people, just offering my opinions on the book!


Changes in the Book
via Shadowcl4w at Shadowcl4w's Den
Storm Talon - Base points dropped to 110
The strange hover strike rule is completly gone, it always has the strafing run rule now. Type: Flyer/Hover.

I don't know why but I really like the Storm Talon, But I still do not understand the reason for giving it only 2 HP, that's one of the major drawbacks.

SM StormRaven 200
Comes with 4 Stormstrike missile s8 ap2 concussive.



53 Comments:

  1. Thank you Natfka, this was really, really helpful.

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  2. lol if gw price this book at $100 people will still buy it rofl

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    1. That would be expensive. Luckily we dont have to find out if people will buy it at $100. At $33 I find it within my budget to get if I want it.

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  3. Great Missiles that tear through my Crisis Suits and Broadside suits like no other. Is it May yet? :P

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    1. Seeing as LasCannons have made a comeback with the boost to AP2 this is business as usual to me.

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    2. and S8 AP3 missiles (very popular in 5th) always tore through my crisis suits

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    3. Don't worry, grey knight missiles will do bugger all to your tau :P

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    4. Don't have any Grey Knight Players at my LGS but more Space Marines and Black Templar players.

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  4. the range of Stormstrike missiles is 72" as the Bloodstrike ;)

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  5. The Codex:Space Marine Storm Raven is probably the most useful support vehicle. Shoot a walker with it and then assault with another unit. A chance to tear the Walker apart before it hits at I1.

    This and the Dark Angels various characteristic reducing abilities seems to be the new Direction for units. Support each other rather than 1 unit that does it all.

    Also: Stormraven+Dreadnought,Character and squad inside+escorting Stormtalon. Powerful Alpha Strike force. Can be equipped to take on almost anything.

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    1. I like the idea of flyers being more like support vehicles here and there. However, I will say that DA flyers are a little overpriced points-wise for just support vehicles.

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    2. PS: Stormravens have to be in reserve at the beginning of the game and can't come on the board until at least turn two, so won't be able to use them for Alpha Strike. Would've been awesome though.

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    3. I was thinking of the Rapid insertion alpha Strike...

      3 x scout squads with sniper rifles and a heavy bolter and camo
      2 Land Speeder Storms as transports with Multi-Melta

      In reserve:
      2 x
      Stormtalon with Skyhammer missile
      Storm Raven with Hurricane Bolters,AC,MM
      Ironclad w/Huricane Bolter, Chin Fist
      Tactical Squad w/Missile Launcher,Melta Gun

      All lead By Pedro Kantor

      Scouts calling in the Air cavalry.

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    4. Why Pedro, for stubborn or Dorn's Arrow?
      Unless of course you have Crimson Fists :P

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  6. A buddy of mine was screaming on FB that the Storm Raven Jumped from $67 to $82.50. Did that happen with this book's release? Or did that happen (quietly) some ways back?

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    1. Pretty sure that happened during the last price increase...

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  7. Saw a pic of the rules for the Stormraven. I don't know about Blood Angels, but for Grey Knights it specifically directs you back to the codex for options and the points cost is unchanged. Again, not sure about other armies, but really seems as if there's no change for existing units, ie, a GK army doesn't HAVE to purchase this compendium.

    Again, could be different for other armies, but that's what I'm seeing here.

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    1. Grey knights lost some ability with the change to the Zooming disembark.

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    2. Yeah, but that was in the FAQ so you wouldn't be compelled to own the book based solely on that.

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  8. and the nephilim gets even worse.....

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    1. Without being changed! Magic!

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    2. I have been thinking that if you play with the Dogfight rules the Nephilim is slightly better, because in the Dogfight it is possible to fire the same weapon (twin linked Lascannon) 3 times, which in the case of the Nephilim, is better than firing all its weapons. Also there is the possibility of shooting at a ground target and at an air target in the same round, in which case the heavy bolter/lascannon combo is slightly better. Also there is the possibility of lowering the opponent's AV, which makes it possible for the heavy bolter to glance a Vendetta, and the missiles (or Avenger) to penetrate. Also one of their manoevers lets them shoot possibly a 4th time with the Lascannon. If your opponent wants to, they can keep you from firing all your weapons, simply by choosing Counterattack. And if you use your special ability to Velocity Lock them, they will have difficulty initiating a Dogfight back at you.

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  9. Any news on the Dakkajet changes?

    I'm running one using the WD artical but wondering how it changes?

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    1. Check Apocalypse 40k blog, he has some pics that show the changes to the individual units.

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    2. Nothing new. Only the upgrade option for the Dakkajet, combat ace got changed to Flyboss: it basically gives him Strafing Run against things you don't normally get strafing run against.

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  10. I wonder if the "sold out" is a regional thing, I ordered my copy of DftS in Saturday afternoon (East European time) and it was marked as "dispatched" on Monday (still waiting for it to arrive, though).

    Also, the SPESS MAHREEN players should now finally shut up once and for all regarding their ever-continuing whining about OP Vendettas, otherwise I will have to start whining about OP Stormstrike missiles.

    As for the Nephilim, it is stated in the fluff to be a dedicated air superiority fighter, and as a certain flyer causing much butthurt reportedly got downgraded to AV11 side armour, it should have no problems in that role whatsoever (rumours about the new Bloodthirster notwithstanding).

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    1. If you mean the IG ones being side armour 11 then no change they are still 12 12 10 according to the Apocalypse 40k blog pics.

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    2. it's not just 1 flyer causing problems for the neph and other flyers, it's ALL av12 flyers, and now even more armies have access to them. on top of that the stormtalon got even better for less points, making the neph even worse in comparison.

      as a side note, side armor 11 in flyer vs flyer battles don't mean much considering they come on from your own table edge, so it's quite easy to make sure they only get front armor shots on the turn they come in, then it's a matter of shooting the neph down, which is pretty easy considering its av11 front.

      I would have bought this book had gw even attempt to balance flyers in 6 th, clearly that was not on their minds....

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  12. No change to Razorwings? No anti-aircraft missile that is not Large Blast and can do anything against other flyers? (S6 AP5 Large Blast just can't.) Still in HS slot competing Ravagers? Too bad. The models look nice.
    Some AA options for Voidraven?

    Anything for Tyranids? Hope they will get that Harrier upgrade for Harpy in the next codex / WD / whatever. Soon :)

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    1. No tyranids at all in the book

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    2. No changes to Voidraven or Razorwings besides losing deepstrike. I would have like to have seen them get something myself but no luck.
      3 HP each but it was probably that way in the rulebook, I don't have one to hand.

      Nothing for Nids at all as far as I can see.

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  13. The dogfight rules look like fun. In a large game with many fliers it might be overly complicated however. It would add a new phase to the game

    That said...I expect that Tau and Space Wolves are not far of getting new flyers (in a codex maybe). They both have rules for Fighter Aces and Special Manouvers. Seeing as neither has a flyer it is an odd inclusion.

    No tyranids or daemons as...well...they get flying monsterous creatures.

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    1. do chaos marines get fighter ace rules BTW? I know crusade of fire omitted them

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    2. Yes, Chaos marines get special manoeuvres and fighter ace rules.

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  14. For those with digital codex changes are in there for storm talon and the raven has been added

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  15. Sorry to be OT but if if you have not seen yet, there some updated daemon rule leaks in the previous article. Someone linked to more wd links in comments section.

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  16. Sounds like completely recyled material to me, aside from the one example of the stormstrike missile.....which is one line.

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    1. Many Bothans died to bring us this one line.

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  17. My copy arrived in the post yesterday. It's a nicely made book. As with the recent codices the Storm Talon and Text on the front are glossy with a matte background which is a touch I really like.

    Overall I wouldn't say it's worth it's price tag, maybe £10 - £15. I don't regret buying it myself, I'd much rather have the book than the old WD issue and a bunch of FAQ print outs.

    The Air War Mission look like fun. I'm certainly keen to try "Scramble!" with some friends


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  18. Wish they would bring out the good ol' chapter approved again instead of faq print outs because i have heard some argument as to the authenticity of the printed faqs and the new one as far as flyers go is useless as it refers you to the death from the skies. :-(

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    1. you mean exactly what they did, just by a different name?

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  19. "... but NOT hardback"
    That pisses me off more than anything else, strangely enough.

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  20. So, like Gamesworkshop, do people just forget to mention anything about that other army... you know... that other Imperium army that never get's mentioned in ANYTHING. Would like for once if Sisters of Battle got mentioned or included in any 40k expansions/compendiums.

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    1. They get reliably murdered in Matt Ward's fluff, so I'm told. Maybe he added some into Phil Kelley's Daemon codex. Keep your fingers crossed. :)

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    2. I agree. Fortunately my local allows my valk to avenger conversion. I knew Skies would have nothing for Sisters just by the fact that they are the ONLY ARMY WITH NO 2013 UPDATE. Can't wait for the Raging Heroes kickstarter.

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    3. Sisters are gone, just like Elvis. Just move on and get over it.

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    4. Maybe they were eaten by the Hive Fleet. Then a couple of editions later someone ninja's them back with an offhand reference in BRB.

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  21. Thanks for the info, natfka, this is the info GW should have given to their customers.

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    1. they did. natfka didn't tell me anything I'd not figured out by reading their website description.

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