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  1. yes ! lets just hope the new book hasnt ruined them !!

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    1. Depends on What Army you Play :)
      Prob a Balanced dex

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    2. @Warlord22

      Gee you are a broken record with "balanced codices" lol. Lighten up a little and wait for it to drop ;)

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    3. Lighten up about a balanced dex? What should we hope for some broken Ward dex or some garbage Tyranid dex? If anything "Prob a balanced Dex" is a good comment.

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    4. Xodis, if you read back on Warlord's post, basically all he says is balanced dex or pricey crap DA fliers. Every single comment nearly. That's why he said to chill out.

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    5. Ill give you the "pricy crap DA fliers" but still don't see how balance dex is derogatory or bad in any way.

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    6. its Jeremy Vetock so i would assume "balanced codex like DA" i just hoep people will not say "it is better to play old bok than new"

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    7. Old Books are more playable

      DA Force you into a salvo Banner Build... Everything els is Auto lose... & the Banner is a Bit too strong if your Opponent FAILS to Take it Out quik.

      The New dexes are Not playtested enough and not a Lot of effort has been put in.

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  2. oh and £50 for the riptide and £30 for ONE Broadside ....... let the angry hobbyists shouting commence !

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    1. At least I wont have to be buying the new Broadside model. Those flyers look god awful. Proxying and conversions here I come.

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    2. The Riptide looks like a titan. Pretty cool model.

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    3. I actually like the look of the Riptide somewhat might tweak it here and there. But GW the flyer why? You have the aestics of Forgeworld flyers to go off of. Why a Devilfish mixed with a TX-42?

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    4. Actually, I think the flyers look great. My wallet won't too much strain, but I'm definitely buying a flyer kit. I think that the Forgeworld flyers are a but clunky, and a touch too 'flying shovel'. This new aesthetic falls right into my idea of a good design.

      P.S. I'm not trying to devalue your opinion. Simply pointing out that it's not necessarily a poor design - simply one that doesn't agree with you.

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    5. Each to their own. But I thinking FW really did a good job with establishing a good aesthetic for Tau flyers, personally I feel like these look kind, of, silly really.
      But as I said, each to their own.

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    6. @Parallelogram. No offense taken. The new flyer might grow on me but I do know it more than likely will proxied with Barracudas until I figure out good conversions to have counts-as.

      PS Now I can't stop getting the idea of calling my FW flyers Spade Squadron.

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    7. Broadsides are not that expensive when you think it takes a Broadside upgrade ($15) kit and a regular XV8 ($25) kit to create them. Won't have the extra bits from the XV8 kit, but you have the new weapon choices of the Broadside.

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    8. So overall, the price of a crisis suit didn't go up? No complaints there! I like the new look flyers, but my concern is what appears to be a burst cannon on the front chassis of the lead flyer. Do tau really need more s5/ap5?

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    9. for 30 quids you can have broadside from Forge World... so it seems GW wants to match their price asap.

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    10. You could always buy just one to designate as the squad leader and then buy up older VX88 to fill out the squad. Of course that does get expensive if you field 3 squads. But hey it's new models!

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  3. Lol

    What is more redicules... The Look or the prices? :D
    Tau stay True their Image :DDD

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    1. Seeing as how Tau's image belongs to GW, I think that's up to them, right?

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    2. If they don't want to make money because their design department prefers to stagnate in the past instead of building something that even non hobbyists would think is cool then yea sure it is 'their image'.

      Of course the fact people are already unimpressed with the designs makes you wonder what kind of stupidity GWS is allowing since amazing looking models is a far easier sell point than rules.
      Plus they claim they aren't a rules company... so what is left except cool models?

      The new suits are a step in the right direction and I've been waiting for Tau to add to my CWE force, but I certainly am not that inspired over all.

      Sure some people will like them, just like there are marine players who prefer the totally illogical designs of their vehicles, saying it is in keeping with the 40k fluff. Which it is, but it won't encourage anyone with an interest in almost any other game company to invest since everyone else does a better job.

      Oh and sales are already poor, so they can't really afford not to have amazing releases.

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    3. Tau have always had a silly Design. This is more of the Same. The Last few dexes had Models released that made you say OMG.
      So i'm surprised they can so Even worse.
      If we Look at the Designer names that might explains it!
      The amount of plastic and extra bitz keeps getting Less. Most Kits are in the 60,-€ Range now. This has reached New Levels.
      The Last few dexes have been underwellming. Not only in the power of the rules but also in the Poor way they were done.

      Sure its GW Game but they still Need us to BuY the stuff & they better Start putting some effort in!

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    4. Before pointing out models that dont cut it and are generally bad I point you in the direction of the chaos mutilators now there's a bad model....

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  4. I will say.. the riptide ubersuit looks mighty fine..

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  5. I notice the broadside is only holding one railgun like a rifle. Not a fan of the price though.

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    1. Looking closely, you can see that it's two railguns (apparently Heavy railrifles now). Also, Neko posted a bunch of more rules info on Warseer. Apparently there is also a new commander suit kit hidden in there somewhere.

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  6. SQUEEEEEEEE! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY.... wait. how much!?! all of my tears....

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  7. Flyers look too plain honestly. The rest is tau-reffic

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    1. Ugh, that pun was aun'ful.

      I have to agree about the flyers but these aren't the greatest pictures, they might grow on me.

      (Come on man, at least go for "Flyers look too plane")

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  8. Those flyers... a little sore on the eyes. They're not very Tau-esque, but everything else, holy moly.

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    1. I think it's pretty much up to GW what's Tau-esque.

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    2. Why do you keep repeating this comment? OF COURSE GW can and will do whatever it wants with its own IP. What Callum is saying is that they are not consistent with the current Tau aesthetic that GW laid out. Learn to infer the actual meaning of the sentence, not the literal translation.

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    3. Sure, GW can make it whatever they want. But if they decide that they want every Firewarrior carry a ten-foot sword, wearing bikinis and having mohawks, then I won't be the only one to say that it doesn't fit the theme.

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    4. Yes, for example GW can (If they choose to) make the new Biovore models look like ballet dancers for the next Tyranid codex.
      So just because they 'can' do it, doesn't make it acceptable.

      Though with these flyers, from now on i will take these GW flyers as 'Aircraft' and the Forge world flyers as 'Spacecraft' because that is the way they seem to be making them.

      For example the Orca has these same kind of 'Skimmer' engines as these GW flyers. The others have those 'Spacecraft' engines.

      I hope i'm making sense here?

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    5. The Orca was not designed by Forge World, nore was it designed by GW. It was designed by THQ for the Firewarrior viedo game that FW then made into a model. I like it, but it is kinda out of place with the rest of the line.

      The only thing I don't like about the flyers is the missile pod turret on the Bommer. Yes, it looks like a good AA weapon to protect it's self from other aircraft, but as it's top mounted, it makes it look like it should be on a skimmer, not an aircraft. I wish they had also made it look more aerodynamic. A giant box really detracts from the model's otherwise sleek and fluid design.

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    6. I think the new flyers look too much like World War II aircraft. I mean, take away the beams connecting the front- and backwings, and it looks very similar.

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    7. McD-Incorrect. GW has created a Tau-style. And they've done it well, but the flyer Is indeed not very Tau-esque

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    8. They are EXCEPTIONALLY tau-esque - just most players don't recognize them.

      They look very consistent with all the tau BFG ships.

      Note; I am NOT saying I like or dislike them, I am merely pointing out that players might want to know there is a bit more than they realize to the tau "look and feel" than the realize.

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  9. shame the crisis suit didnt get a re vamp

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  10. The Riptide is amazing....I can see so many people getting that regardless of whether they play Tau or not.

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    1. Yup, I'm now hurriedly painting my Dark Eldar in order that I might soon start a Tau army! I just hope they're utterly beardy and awesome.

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  11. So is it just a model wave, no codex!? What's with the pathfinders? Are they going to have a different role? Why do I need 10!?

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    1. Also, are those things mounted under the fighters wings weapons?

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    2. Oh, and it looks like there are some new support system bits too, based on the riptide box.

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    3. Settle down, there'll be a new codex. There's literally 3 photos of a 100+ page magazine.

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    4. Dunno actually. There are only 3 new units (ubersuit + 2 flyers) that they'd have to release a rules update for.
      The three 6th ed codices released so far have had models for every unit in the book on release day (even if it's old crappy pewter models or even DV cultists).
      It's just that there's no kroot here whatsoever. If this was the codex wave I'd expect more new units instead of redone suits & pathfinders.
      Either that or they've done one of 2 things: given us nearly FA in the way of new units, or ran this risk of being chapterhoused by not bringing them out with the dex.
      Just my thoughts on it...

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    1. Haha!

      I actually lol'd

      Good work sir

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  13. I LIKE that Riptide suits. It looks tank like but agile too. Its like they melded the boxy Crisis Suits with the Uber XV 9 suits and scaled it up.

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  14. Did they seriously NOT take this opportunity to update the look of the chicken crisis suits? :(

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    1. Personally, im glad crisis suits look the same...

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    2. Forge world has shown how much better they can look though.

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    3. PS the Riptide is fantastic. The rest (so far) seems underwhelming which is such a shame.

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    4. Yeah the XV8 should have been updated, but don't put the antennas on them and they look MUCH better. And besides, we dont have to buy that many more models, right? :)

      I would like to see better pictures of the Broadside though, it seems to have a seeker missile on its back in that big picture.

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    5. Yeah the shoulder mount seeker missile. gonna be sweeeet

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  15. I want to loot those flyers!

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  16. Well being Canadian hits me in the wallet again. 15 dollars more for the riptide, when our dollar is almost at par with the american dollar... not to mention it is nearly 25 dollars more then buying it from the UK (at current conversion rates)

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    1. At least you're not Australian.....

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    2. Yup, I'm guessing $120+ for the Riptide but shit ill still buy 3

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    3. Agreed, though those New Zealanders probably aren't fairing any better.

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  17. The source of the photos has said that there's a Finecast commander, if you look closely right in the page fold of the first photo.

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    1. Yeah I see it. Looks more posable too, like the FW XV-9 kits

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    2. I was thinking the same thing.
      Also, the new Battleforce looks sweet - Crisis Suit Box equivalent, Stealth Suit Squad, Fire Warriors and a Piranha. $130USD.

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    3. Where'd you see pics of the battleforce????

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    4. Just follow the Warseer thread.

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    5. I actually really like that battle box. That and a second box of fire warriors would make for a very attractive starter force.

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    6. Are stealth suits currently troop choices? If not then they either are now or that battle force is lacking the standard 2troops.

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    7. You can make two 6 man Firewarrior squads though.

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  18. There is a big SMS'ish suit in the middle too. Possibly the broadside has to choose between buffed SMS and the TL railgun?

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    1. Actually, now that I think about it, that would make the old broadsides pretty obsolete since they carry both at once. I hope it isn't a dual configuration

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  19. i find it silly that the riptide is so expensive when a dreadknight of the same size is a fraction of the cost

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    1. The Riptide looks alot bigger than a Dreadknight to me, in height as well as bulk. I might be wrong though, is a little hard to tell.

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    2. But its the same base. same as the forgefiend You'd think it'd similarly priced but its like 20 dollars more. I dont think it'll be that much bigger than the dk or ff/mf

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    3. Yeah but....the Orca is on the same base and is about $500aud

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    4. Thats way different my friend. Thats a block of overpriced resin. If it really is 85us like the picture reads, then i'm pretty sure its the most expensive single model that gw has out, not including fw of course.

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    5. Not including apoc tanks like bane blades either. Just regular 40k

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    6. The Riptide looks like it has alot more parts and points of articulation. I suspect that between it and it's extra parts, it likely has at least one more spru then it's grey knight counter part. I can understand if that is what brings up the cost.

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    7. the reason its so expensive hasnt got anything todo with the size of the model. ita GW trying to bump their £££ figueres as much as possible for this financial year because they have lost so much money on other things and they need to please the shareholders

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    8. The lord of the rings Mumakil is £65 in the UK and that is pretty big. We can't really tell from the above picture but I am sure it will be to big to stick in a regular modelling case.

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    9. Warriors of chaos have a monster that came out before that is $85 the slaughter brute

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  20. I think I speak for pretty much everyone here when I say YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!~!!!!!!!!1111ELEVEN!!!

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  21. That Riptide looks freaking great.

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  22. So, the (in my opinion far superior) Forgeworld Broadsides are now CHEAPER than the official GW models?

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  23. NIce models but the prices make me shudder. Not so much because they are high for what you get with the new models but because it is indicative of price rises to come on the current line of GW models in the near future...

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    1. Well if you take into account the usual 20/25% off you get from Wayland or Darksphere I believe it's roughly on par with the current broadside due to the price of the GW only upgrade kit.

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    2. @Equityviolation : I am glad I am not the only person who uses dark sphere then :D

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  24. Seriously, no one's got a pic of the codex yet?

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  25. Am I the only one who wants to paint the riptide like a megazord just cause lol.

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    1. Haha replace its legs and arms with crisis suits and paint them all different colours

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  26. Thanks for these!

    - The Riptide is Huge and looks awesome!

    - Fighter/Bomber combo is not bad, but looks too much like a skimmer and not a flyer (Compare Tau Skimmers and Flyers from FW). Also the guy who said it looks like an enlarged Piranha TX-42 was dead on.

    - Pathfinder box. YAY!! (Though i already have 7 but still, YAY!)

    - Broadside looks cool as far as i can tell from the fuzzy photo.

    - Then finally we come to the insanely stupid looking, obsolete design, grandpa-logger, let's-march-to-war-like-this-chaps XV8 Battlesuits!
    Why didn't they update the models!? They're older than the sky for crying out loud!
    (This being cried out, i am also paradoxally happy with this, because i don't have to be replacing the old models \o/)

    Happy Days for the Greater good!!

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  27. Kinda like it but put a high hope over the riptide.

    Not sure 'bout XV8's, on a first glance perhaps Tau players will enjoy two different kits for the same unit (remember the XV15 "transition" to XV25, anyone?)

    Pathfinder Team with special armoury gimmick's, would be great and surely fluffy (In the end , Tau are a shotty army... of hunters).

    Bomber/Fighter... not sure, there's a geometry broke off between the wings and the nose, a design problem (not sure how GW miss that), but with basic hobby skills could be turned into a very elegant jet... not sure if alien but classy indeed. Terrible idea to asume that every vehicle of the firecaste would be based upon the Devilfish/Hammerhead chassis... I mean, even the tau fanbase have done interesting proposals.

    And the riptide... I feel kinda weird, like sorry or something.

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  28. Riptide looks awesome, and massive!

    All of a sudden the idea of a plastic war hound Titan doesn't seem so crazy? For stomper or bane blade cost I'd assume?

    That flier looks large too?

    Where's the kroot? In any of the pictures? And none in the Battleforce?

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    1. Oh and my guess is that Pathfinders are a troops choice... Just sayin

      And let's 'Loot da big stompy tau fing'

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    2. Amm... this is my concept of massive http://kallamity.com/products/view/SG0021

      but perhaps you're right and the thunder will land on summer

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    3. Epic mega dread in the making there.

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    4. I thought the same thing. Plastic warhound ~$100 would be awesome. Hope the riptide sells well.

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  29. One of those flyers looks like the purple covenant flyers in halo which is cool.

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  30. Anybody else notice that the drones on the broadside have missile pods? And the drones on the pathfinders look like the one shadowsun came with

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  31. I'm finding it interesting there's not a hint of kroot anywhere, even the battleforce is empty of them (not that I'm complaining because Honestly, I don't really like kroot)

    That said, I seem to notice that the crisis suits (while maintaining the same overall asthetic) have some monor changes. There seems to be a few head variants at the least that i can notice in the larger shot.

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  32. I also notice that it seems like there's a larger number of Drone variants in the new kits.

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  33. Anyone else hope that the two spires in the background of the battleforce might be official Tau terrain?

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  34. My emotions are mixed. I see some good looking models (from anything you can understand from this low rez pictures). And i see some that looking exactly us previous ones, flyers looks like Piranhas with wings, XV8...copy paste XV8. Don't know, lack of fantasy from the designers, they want the awesome models made only from FW; We will never find for sure. Maybe thaey just want to keep some conection with the previous army models. It is weird because Tau is a race that you can "play" a lot with them in model designing, because Earth Cast produce new ideas rapidly.

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  35. Well this is a turn up for the book. As the rumors came in I was sure I'd be all about the flyers more than the riptide. Especially since my current Tau force is tank-centric with little suits.
    The riptide looks awesome though and if there was a model I was going to pick up straight away the riptide would be it. I'm also quite excited about plastic pathfinders and it looks like they have some cool drones in the box.

    Not so excited about the flyer. I wouldn't say it looks bad but certainly not what I was expecting and doesn't do a lot for me. I think f I was to get one I'd lose the rods connecting the wings, they look a little awkward.

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  36. Riptide is looking a lot like the Unseen 'Mechs of yore (ie. like the ones from Macross) which is most excelsior.

    But that flyer... argh. Like acid to the eyes. It makes the Stormtalon look good.

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  37. The spires in the background are probably just part of one of the gaming tables at Warhammer World. They have all kinds of excellent hand-made terrain there.

    Not overly impressed so far.

    The flyers look crap; a flying cross, really?? They don't look as nice as a Piranha and nowhere near as elegant as a Barracuda so my mind is boggling with that the designer was thinking when he came up with those.

    Same for the big suit, it's a crap idea and the model looks...iffy. I like the design cues they've taken from FW's R'Myr but it looks really ungainly with lower legs that look far thinner than they have any right to be (moreso than the XV-8 and old X-88) and won't somebody think of the ankles?! One long arm and one short wide arm with a lil' tiny head stuck on top do not a good model make.

    The new XV-88s I can't comment on as I can't make enough of it out clearly. Could be good, could be gammy.

    Very nice work on the Pathfinders with their new drones and ion weapons though, and I can't wait to see what that new commander suit in the middle there has to field.

    But y'know, two things to mention; like with the new DA models I really had to see them in person to evaluate them properly, so I'll most likely order up some new stuff and see how it grabs me, and also rules and battlefield role usually > aesthetics so again, seeing the codex will be great and if the new units fit then I'll grab them anyway. Options are always better than none, regardless of what they are.

    So...we'll wait and see. Carry on, GW, carry on.

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    1. But I will bother to post again and say that the new names are bloody terrible.

      Vetok, I like your work overall mate and the DA codex is a fine thing but a bit more thought into naming new units please!

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    2. Here is what the designer was probably thinking: http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/pixelbird/pixelbird1007/pixelbird100700101/7931034-mosquito-ww2-aircraft.jpg

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    3. Lovely aircraft in their day...not so much for an alien race in M41 ;(

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  38. Oh, and the lack of Kroot in the battleforce box STRONGLY hints that they will get a some attention elsewhere, combined with the Grot rumours and the earlier mutterings of an Allies book...obviously we'll need to see what kind of a mention they get in the codex (and they must still have one for the Tau to be the Tau) but I'd say that an Allies supplement looks to be a dead-cert to be the next non-codex book to be released.

    Something along the lines of the Crusade and Fire books, a compilation of stuff that will have one chunk of essential stuff for some readers (depending on their forces) and the rest will be from interesting to 'filler' for others.

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    1. Yes, quite possibly the Kroot have some sort of bonus when allied with a Tau force, like not needing the mandatory 1 Hq and 1 Troop.. The same would be with Grots and Orks..

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    2. Thanks Heisen! I actually mean "...the Crusade and Death books" as it's Death From The Skies and not Fire...beh. Late night drinking is bad, kids.

      Hawk: Aye, possibly and also with Tyranids & Genestealer Cults. I do hope that GW don't miss this opportunity to add those back in :E

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  39. Riptide is dead sexy, though I hope the model is posable, unlike, say, the slaughterbeast. Broadside might be cool, too, but the pic is too fuzy to make out. Drones with missles are always welcome, though.
    Now, the big stinker here are the flyers. Goddamn but those are ugly, especially when compared to the sexyness that is the Barracuda. But they don't look like combat vehicles at all, they look like fucking carry-alls from something like Dropzone Commander. I might get one to convert into a transport, to airlift my broadsides onto the battlefield, that might work.

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    1. Not a bad idea. Might make a Datasheet up for apoc and have it be akin to the vulture.

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  40. Is it me or is the right battle suit member in the squad holding a sword of some sort?

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  41. Don't know if anyone else caught this, but Pathfinders ten to a box with the cool new drones? Seems like big changes for them and sounds like my fifty old ones are going to be retired.

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    1. Also that new commander looks a little bit bigger than the average suit and I that. Puts more emphasis on these guys and helps them to fight for attention with the new giant Riptides, flyers and Broadsides with back missiles.

      Tau are back in business, folks!

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    2. Depending on how the new suit HQ looks, if it's just resin upgrades, and price I might make a few new suits using that model.

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  42. I might be wrong, but it looks like a new Firewarrior leader model in the diarama. He's holding up an honor blade above his head. Or am I mis seeing things??

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    1. Sorry, meant bonding knife

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    2. I saw him too. With the white armor. They did say we were getting a new FW character.

      The pose suggests an aura centric char rather than a crazy fighter. Like the Sgt Lysander in 3rd ed spess mehreens

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  43. In that picture, where the new boxes are listed (Pathfinders, broadside and XV8s) What is under them??
    Something-something blade? Its not the Riptide or the battleforce apparently.. What could it be?

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    1. Probably ethereal with honor blade

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    2. But its already available in finecast, why would they advertise in on white dwarf?

      You are probably right though.

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  44. Don't complain too much about the new flyers, at least it isn't a Landspeeder Vengeance. Junk model AND rules.

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    1. We don't know about the rules yet.... So it could be worse, but could also still be better

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    2. Model is already better though. :-)

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  45. Wow fair play GW. Crisis suits are same price as before. You have to buy in 3's it now looks like but I still think this is the best priced model for what you get when you compare it to other insanely priced units like the plastic Nurgle herald. :/

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  46. Niiiice I'm having a Riptide :D

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  47. NICE BLOG!!! Thanks for your valuable information,

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