Yesterday we had a rumor set, when Hastings chimed in and was discussing the upcoming release order. The release order was something like this....



Tau, Eldar, Orks, Space Marines, Tyranids, and then Imperial Guard...... However, Move the Orks. 

The post can be seen here.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/03/40k-release-order-space-marines.html#more

The question then comes up, where do we move the Orks? and it was asked in the comment section. Truth be told, I can only speculate, however, one of our sources that helps us check rumors chimed in. Here it is.

via an Anonymous Source from the Faeit 212 inbox
Just Sayin,


1. Tau
2. Eldar
3. Space Marines
4. Nids/Ork tossup.
5. IG
6. The Nids or Orks that get pushed back.


Now if you want my take.... remember its speculation. We combine Hastings and our Rumor checkers info..... and its orks in the number 6 slot.

29 Comments:

  1. Space Marines? That's coming out of the left field for me, to be honest.
    Not unwelcome, mind you, but surprising.

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    1. How so? It seems like Space Marines get twice as many new codices than everyone else. I'm probably bias though. I'm a xenos player, and it feels like I'm always hearing about new Space Marines. This year is a nice change for me... Tau and Eldar and yay!

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    2. This rumour is super salty, I don't see them going through all the 4 th Ed books except orks then jumping back to it after 3 fifth Ed books. When I say all the 4 th Ed books I'm assuming BTs end up in vanilla and sob will continue to be forgotten and phased out.

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  2. Seems they are doing the "They need a quick fix" codices first, that don't need a lot of new models. Still sucks that Black Templars and Sisters gets left behind though...

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    1. Well GW have said that they have no plans to drop SoB because they do still have a number of players and a lot of interest from the community. As for BT I have no idea

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    2. I think that their try to earn money to research de new plastic mold of SoB plastic kits.

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    3. I think they'd find an eager new following for SoBs if they updated their look. The old metal minis are obviously so, & a fresh vision would bring a lot more interest.

      Kinda like how everyone was saying DE were a dead codex until they updated.

      ~Muninn

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    4. Agreed. I've been waiting for new models/a new codex to drop to get into the Sisters.

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    5. Old DE codex was the best in 5th edition as whole. I cried bloody tears when they made this new... thing..

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  3. If that leaked 2013 release schedule was actually true, then Orks should be before Tyranids.

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  4. Even BT should be before 'nids according to The List (2014 would look like vanilla, Orks, BT, IG).

    However, I still think the Sisters may be a wild card. Considering their models were supposed to be ready for 2011 but for quality hiccups, which is why we only got the aborted WD codex. So rules and models are done long since (hence no recent leaks anymore), and they could appear out of the blue, out of "agreed" release order (but perfectly in line with The List).

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  5. what a surprise GW doesn't care about orks. Gonna be eight and half years and they've released... a flyer? Guess they don't want my money. By the time they do actually release something I'll have gotten too bored to go risk hundreds of dollars, especially if it's something hilarious but totally useless sounding like a grot transport plane or something that's sure to be armor 11 but 200+ points like a mek tank. Great corporate strategy.

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    1. Don't complain. BT are the oldest codex and there is at least a sign that Orks will be updated some point

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    2. Hm, not trying to discount your opinion as an Ork player, but Orks have one of the largest, most varied model lines in the game. I'd say their line is really only surpassed by Marines and maybe Guard right now, especially considering how much Orks are supported by Forge World. Their codex is still pretty decent as well. Tyranids, Sisters, and Eldar need the support far worse.

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    3. Ork Codex was release in January of 2008. Its only 5 years old, not 8. They've gotten flyers, been featured in a starter box which put a ton of much improved deffcoptas on the market, and Ork is still a VERY competitive codex. Everyone loves Orks, even people who dont play Orks. However there are codex's that are in MUCH more dire need of attention than Orks.

      Besides...why do you need a new tank? You not only allowed...but ENCOURAGED to take everyone else's!

      As much as GW pisses me off sometimes..this is the kind f stuff that makes me not surprised when they do have a "screw you" attitude towards customers. They are updating and releasing at a rate that is unheard of before....for ANY miniatures company. Yet, all over facebook and everywhere else they are constantly told what crap they are because somebody isn't getting what THEY want...RIGHT NOW! These codexs are major productions...its not like somebody sits down, and writes it over a weekend. Have patience.

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    4. Lol @ J, he lumped tyranids in with SoB and eldar.

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    5. 1st paragraph: you're right I mixed that up. A 2nd version of an already released model doesn't do anything for the gaming side of 40k. How competitive a codex is is infinitely debatable but I would definitely disagree that they are "VERY competitive" and would argue that they are more in the realm of "kinda competitive" and the issue is more that in 5th ed there were several types of lists that were competitive and 6th has made pretty much anything (in my area) but battlewagons/bikers lists pretty weak. Boyz basically get no save now, since they depend on cover, which is worse and harder to get, and have a harder time getting into combat between overwatch and the random charge distance. Killa kans went from being great to being terrible. Flat nerf to KFF. Trukks are even easier to kill, and if you put boyz inside the rules went from 1/3 dying on average in an explosion to 1/2. Nobs can't do shenanigans any more, which I understand, but it is a straight nerf to their survivability with no reduction in points cost. Anyone who thinks shooting orks is a viable option is either insanely lucky with lootas or fighting non-competitive lists or a codex that needs an update just as much.

      2nd paragraph: some kind of mek tank was in the rumors, I never demanded it. But if it does show up, I would bet money it will be armor 10 or 11, start out at ~150 points if it has a shokk attack gun (rumor) and then easily go 200+ with upgrades (rumored KFF, guns, ram, etc). And there's allies yea. So? I don't care. I don't want to play guard. I want to play orks. I won't start another army to prop up an existing one.

      3rd: Yes, the codexes are a major production. So? What's wrong with white dwarf? Daemons got an update, and then a new codex within a few months! That seems like a dumb allocation of resources to me. I'm not saying they didn't need it, but I'm sure Templars or someone not at the front of the line for a codex could have used that update. Every time there's a pricing argument GW defenders say GW has proven that they get the most profit by going for surprises that demand your monthly disposable income. Are the majority of ork, templar, sisters, etc players poor hobos with no monthly disposable income? 0 releases for any of those armies over a period of several years equal a lot less sales.

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    6. @ Da Kwodd- LOLing because I said Tyranids need updates before Orks? Well you're a happy guy, I guess. Most are going to agree with me, though.

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    7. I think anyone who plays both would agree with me that orks need a new book before nids. I am satisfied with what 6th edition gave the bugs and would be happy playing the book another year if it meant getting all armies into edition 5+. Tyranids are a perfect candidate for a model wave and wd update to fill the codex holes.

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  6. I have no problems with bt being rolled into the sm sex so long as they retain special characters and army wide rules to keep them well represented. How many pages and how much would a sm hardback cost though as it would need to be bigger than it is now even.

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    1. Ghah, foiled by autocorrect. Meant dex, not sex, as obviously space marines have none of that.

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  7. I kinda wish they did IG before SM just for the Vendetta point adjustment.

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  8. This actually makes sense with the current pattern of 2 non-imperial releases and 1 imperial, since it has been said many times that the codices are being developed in groups of three. This continues the trend, 2 xenos, 1 imperial, followed up again with 2 xenos and 1 imperial.

    Codex Marines need a little something IMO. Currently, they only have a couple of reliable builds, and even these are somewhat dull and predictable. They seem to lack that knock-out punch or massive disruptor that so many other armies tend to have.

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    1. Orks feel the exact same way, dull with a couple of reliable builds. No knockout punch or reliable disruptor. Their waaaaagh is worthless for anything but dakkajets and they are just no fun to play anymore. Zogwart is broken with his bs 0, 3/4 of the book needs a point adjustment, kommandoes and storm boys need the shoota option etc. I'll admit the current book is still competitive but just a drag to play, spend 30 minutes in your movement phase slogging. Pray you roll 5s and 6s in shooting and shake your head through the assault phase as you pull handfull for overwatch, pull a second as your opponent gets to attack you first. Then watch any squad under 10 get swept because of their shotty ld an initiative. I love the Ork line, I love their fluff but IMO they are more fun to play against than they are to play. They barely need any new models, just a new book, hopefully something that takes different klans into consideration, until then their representation at tourneys and game clubs will continue to drop.

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  9. well i play all on that list other then ig and eldar, plus i play chaos so it's a good year for me, albiet an expensive one.

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  10. Balls ether way its nids and IG back to back.

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  11. Most of those codex do not need an update. GW hates us BT players for not being codex compliant lol. Goddamn that Ward and his codex adherence bias!

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  12. What codex is out there that's older than Black Templars.
    What SM army has a basic marine costing 21pts a model apart from BT marines.
    BT marine =16 pts + 1pt FG, +2pt Krak, +2 P-seals =21pts a pop.

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