Hastings has been busy and has expanded up on this release order, bringing us through probably mid next year.... although no time table was given, just the order of things. Of course Hastings word is considered canon, by not only most of the online community but by myself as well.

The Allied supplement rumor has been floating along for quite a long time now, and with this, unless more comes to light, it is dead. "There is no Allies Supplement".

This list also appears to correlate with what we had been hearing is in playtesting. So exciting times are ahead!

Please remember that while rumors are rumors, Hastings words tend to be Canon.

75hastings69  over on warseer
There's no allies supplement. So I'm not sure when we might see this kroot monster that 2 people have seen.

Release order discussion from warseer
MajorWesJanson
Tau are next, then Eldar. Sisters, Templars, Orks, and probably Nids need books before IG does.

75hastings69 response
Not quite, remove sisters & Templars...... replace with SM & IG....... Although the order of them might be mixed up a bit 

Oops my mistake, I thought you were listing the order, then I realised you were listing codex that need updating before IG ....... still a little further look ahead in the future of 40k never did any harm did it?


another posted question
I was under the impression it was Tau, Eldar, Orks, SM, Nids, then Guard?

75hastings69 answer.
Move the orks


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  1. Hmm...if SM were so soon, wouldn't we be getting SOME rumors by now?

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    1. Slow down Brandon!!!! We need a couple months of Eldar rumors first. : )

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    2. Ah, order was corrected. There we go, that sounds about right...

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    3. I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

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    4. yes, a huge thanks for the star appearance.

      I would imagine a new rhino variant could include a new combined box set of the rhino/razorback/variant or some combination of them?

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    5. Two new varients, afaik the current boxes remain unchanged.

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    6. STC must be being found everywhere lately... There's new everything being released for the Marines!

      It's the golden age of technology come anew it would seem.

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    7. Recovering Heresy era Tech would be good for Games-Workshop's bottom line, expect it.

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    8. Smaller dreadnought?http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Icelus_Pattern_Dreadnought

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    9. Assault ramp rhinos ?????? please please please!

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    10. noo assault ramp rhinos thank you very much. Unless they cost a bucket load.

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    11. Oh the Praetor War machine mentioned in the big list of models could be the small dreadnought.

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  2. I'm pretty sure that Hastings didn't say anything about SM, Orks, Nids or Guard. It was just pieced together from other rumour threads, where others had posted - but not Hastings. So you know, as far as we know, Hastings' order finishes at Eldar.

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    1. I am adding the quotes. So yes he did respond directly to the order.

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    2. Oh, fair enough. Didn't realise he had responded in those other threads... thanks, Natfka. Good to know the order, I guess.

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    3. I ended up putting up the quotes directly, because I did not want to misrepresent his order of things to come.

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    4. I am confused - what is the actual order Hastings is suggesting?

      Tau, Eldar, SM, Orks, Nids, Guard

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      Tau, Orks, Eldar, SM, Nids, Guard

      I play Orks and like Eldar. I'll take either ...

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    6. I wanna know the same, I'd like a break between orks and nids otherwise ill have to take out a second mortgage.

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    7. Totally guessing here, but I'd say GW has held off on SM as long as they financially could. I would think it would go Tau, Eldar, SM, Etc.

      REAL sad to hear my Sisters aren't getting a reboot, but that does free me up to just make my fandex.

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  3. I'd also be interested to know where Sisters of Battle and Black Templars sit in all of this. Sisters in particular need some attention.

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    1. SoB.... not on my radar. Templars could well be headed back to the big book.

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    2. Templars back in the SM book makes me a sad panda.

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    3. Could be, I'm not 100% on this.

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    4. My little clan as a Black Templar player, we'll all be very sad if he gets swallowed. I'll also be sad to see Sisters of Battle go. Doesn't really seem fair to them to get eviscerated by the Gray Knights codex.

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    5. I can understand the need to bring SM up to date and to fix IG and Tyranids, but I really hope Sisters get an update before any of the other 5E codices.

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    6. As much as I hate to admit it, if the good word from hastings has SM in his sights with no word from BT, I fear brothers that we will be just an addition to the codex. Keeping special characters, maybe gaining some, but over all being "catachan'ed" but still playable in our style.
      Now, speculation. New codex has been coming out every 2/3 months. Tau in April. 2/3 Months Eldar (June/July). 2/3 Months Space Marines? So August-October Range for possible Marines, thus possible Black Templars? Hastings, can you confirm or deny this?

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    7. Orks need a new book before nids.

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  4. Cool I suppose. I'm already happy about the Tau. And Craftworld Eldar could use some new stuff. But if SoB or Black Templar players don't get something soon I fear that they may become rabid. :P

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    1. Eldar, new flier, characters and a new uber wraith guard thingy.

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    2. Well I guess gee dubs wants all of my money

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  5. As much as I dont like the idea of taking their codex away but would gw go as far as to move BT into vanilla marines? No idea what they would do with SOB

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    1. Btw I know they arent a codex astartes chapter

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    3. Probably move them to IG. They are battle brothers right now, and really if your going to play SOB you are probably taking IQ allies anyways.

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  6. And yes, I am over excited that Imperial Guard are on the list.....

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    1. As an IG player, I'm not looking forward to it. GW seems to be "balancing" all the codices, which is good. But, I will be the first to admit that the current IG codex is pretty broken, so I shudder to think what GW is going to do with it (like, give it the Daemons treatment). I feel like a criminal who knows the cops are on to him and its only a matter of time... :)

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    2. I have four theories abaut this: nerfed Vendetta; finally sell plastic kits of Griffon, Hydra, Medusa... and put a bit more of FW models like Thunderer, Tauros Venator, Salamander...; return back to the system of doctrines in a new version; or a mixture of the above.

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    4. Nerfed Vendetta scares me, also possibility of point hikes across the board, vets moving to elite, Manticores getting a strength reduction, no more vehicle squadrons, pretty much going back to pre-5th IG.

      Human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together, MASS HYSTERIA!

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    5. perhaps a slight vendetta point cost increase alongside removing transport capacity of it.

      How about just incorporating storm troopers into veterans, and giving them a wider set of rules to incorporate the models.

      Not so sure about Manticores getting changed, or squadrons going away.

      Definitely want to add in human sacrifices, guardsmen riding dogs and cats, and oh yea... mass hysteria.

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    6. ...that wink has me even more worried, hastings. :P

      Ok, I guess I'm just getting paranoid after what happened to daemons. But, I will regard the new IG codex as people regarded the 2012 apocalypse: nothing's going to happen, but at the back of your head, there's always a touch of "what if"...

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    7. Hastings, please tell me there's a point increase for assault terminators?

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    8. Like everyone is telling us Tau players: it's not time to panick "yet"
      :-)

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    10. Tau I'm not worried about because honestly, at this point, ANYTHING's an improvement.

      IG I'm worried about because 5th was the first time ever that IG became a serious contender. Before 5th, they were always a bottom-to-mid tier army. I just don't want to see them go back to that.

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    11. What happened to Daemons? They went from, "oops, that White Dwarf treatment completely broke them," to just as balanced as the other 6th ed releases. That is not a bad thing...and I play Daemons.

      Plus, they got oodles of new toys as well.

      They won't just purposely make an army bad as a measure of justice. They will make a balanced 6th ed book with at least 4 new units. Since they will be playing against other 6th ed books, balanced = great for the game.

      People cried for balance. Now they are getting it and they cry their broken pieces won't be broken anymore.

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    12. Great that you're enjoying daemons. You're one of the few who I've encountered who actually praise the new codex (who wasn't a non-daemon player constantly on the receiving end of the WD update daemons)

      Yes, I will cry (figuratively) if certain things are changed or go away with a new IG codex, but I'll get over it. And like I said, I know the current codex is broken, and I know it is inevitable that it will be fixed. Just dreading the unknown.

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    13. The majority of the criticism for the new Daemons is coming from people who A) don't even play Daemons, they just mathhammered it, or B) players who fielded 3 units of Flamers and Screamers backed by min troops and max FMCs.

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    14. What realy needs a redo is that horrible cavalry... I have always thought death korps riders are what the guard should look like, not that Atila looking. The models got its age, and definitely should be more "general". In fact, i act as if I had no model for that entry.

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    15. I actually like what they have done with daemons. Granted im only focusing on khorne but Skarbrand got a massive boost (increased initative and instant death CC to name a few) and points decrease. Bloodthirster got a boost (increased initiative attacks and instand death on 6s plus access to rewards) and bloodletters are now 37.5% cheaper! Admittedly bloodcrushers got nerfed but realistically due to their increased speed they just have a new role. If played right a daemons army can put out an insane ammount of turn two pressure on your opponent plus the addition of warp storms that can do damage across the board....

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  7. I see the architecture behind a new SM codex.. bring it in line with DA, Chaos, and set the groundwork for Blood Angels, Space Wolves, +/- Black Templars... also, SM vs Orks is a classic part of the game that needs to be revisited... I also understand pushing 'Nids back (at least getting to them before guard!!) but was hoping to see them sooner... oh well.. and yeah, if no Sisters, no Templars, and no Allies (currently in the works) then I feel bad for the warriors and warriorettes in black power armor... (or I guess some sisters wear red, white, or silver)...

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  8. So long to wait for nids! Oh well, i still crush with my bugs. I can wait.

    Tau, on the other hand, is hard to wait even three weeks for.

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    1. Nids book was revitalized with biomancy. I'm happy with what they have now, wouldn't complain about a new codex, green skins on the other hand need love ASAP, only so many mek, loota, boyz, jets, wagon/big gun games I can stand.

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  9. D**n, I was really looking forward to that allies book to see some of the smaller or alternate factions. Really disappointing

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    1. Me too, feel like their missing a trick here, would be so easy for them to incorporate a load of armies that are missing, would love to see Kroot Mercs, the Demruig, Sisters (they could fit in here easily) Stealer Cults, Grot Armies etc etc

      i would happily pay £50+ if the book was big and worth while getting (try double the size of a current codex, a codex here is £30)

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    2. If they put out a book with traitor guard and dark mechanicus I'd gladly slap down the money for it, guaranteed purchase. Oh well...

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  10. So the order is:
    Tau - Eldar - SM - Orks - Tyranids - Guard
    Did I understand correctly?

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    1. hold on ... come on please, not SM before orks :(

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  11. Need.... Is POV!
    IMO DAs Need a New dex :D

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  12. Dont listen to hastings he is crazy man!

    Brodi

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  13. Thank you for all the info Hastings. Saying that the SMs are looking at a suite half way between terminator and a full dread sounds like they started learning from the Tau. Has Ultramar been swayed towards the Greater Good? XD

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    1. Just wondering, they're not in a great place

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    2. That means they are Balanced :)

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    3. sigh such silly logic form people wo can't county. Know BA got pretty wrecked by the edition change, their not Eldar, sisters, Black tamplars or Tau (excluding update) yet but they are well on their way there.

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  15. What I personally think is fun is that the first two releases after Tau include both of the armies that Tau get as battle brothers (SM/Eldar). Should be good and interesting.

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  16. How do we know the Hastings posting here is the real Hastings? Might be a dumb question, but....

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    1. I thought the same thing for a moment. However, a part of what he said fits some information I was not allowed to post from several months ago. So it correlates, and was more precise.

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  17. As of April 9th...sister will become the new Tau.....

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  18. it is the real hastings, i told him he was being quoted on this site so he went over for a nosy and starting postings, believe me its him

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  19. I am soo upset about sisters right now, thats just tragic

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    1. GW has no love for Sisters. I too am saddened by this news. At least they're not Squats.

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  20. Very Kool:) Love to read what's down the road. Thanks 75hasting69!

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  21. Natfka, do you or Hastings have any information regarding when Sisters are going to get an update? Or at least moved into finecast?

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  22. Sisters just got a White Dwarf Update in 5th. If Blood Angels is anything to go by, I wouldnt expect a new SoB codex until end of 2014 at the earliest.

    Ill bet they are the last Codex to get down for 6th

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    1. ....you know they still have metal right? they haven't even been shifted to finecast

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    2. Actually I can see that because, whenever GW decides to update Sisters, it's going to be a massive overhaul since they are still metal. So what they're doing now is getting everything else out of the way first. I'm not a business guy so idk how solid that logic is, but that's my two cents on the matter.

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  23. Not to be an ass.....but are we SURE this guy posting is the Hastings, just askin'

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    1. Nat answered that about a page scroll up from here. Looks like that's "as good as it gets". Either you believe him, or you don't. Either way, with the passage of time and a modicum of patience, we will all find out...

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  24. Im actually not surprised they havnt done sisters yet.
    It would require an entire army to be made out of nothing. The entire range of models is way out of date, to the point where making them finecast would still be bad. Look at the quality of what they have released recently. Not a single model in the range is worthy of being sold, so if they were to redo the codex, every single model would have to be redone.

    Secondly, they would have to write both the lore and rules from basically nothing. The WD lore is...well...all but non existent, and while the 3rd edition lore isnt bad...its 3rd edition...and pretty dated anyways. Im pretty sure that saint celestine is actually dead in that codex. Now writing a codex of lore would not be THAT hard, they do that all the time, but it is just one more thing they would have to do.

    They would also have to start from near scratch on the rules. Both the 3rd edition and the 5th WD dont really work at ALL in 6th. Both have been very weak for a long time. There is also large amounts of things in 6th that the previous editions dont even mention. Flyers, sky fire, night fighting, and many other rules would have to be incorporated into a codex that simply doesn't have anything for them right now. There are so many new rules, or rules that have changed, that to redo them would be a MASSIVE undertaking. Also sisters is by far the least played army, so they make no money off of them.

    It would cost them, both in time and money, more then any other codex, for an army that will reach the least amount of people. Sad as it is, Im surprised that sisters HAVNT gone the way of the squats, and I was legitimacy surprised that they were in the 6th edition codex.

    My only hope for them is that they were in the 6th, both in allies and in there own description area, which means there is some chance they will actually get a codex. If they were going to ally them, they probably would have done so on release of 6th.

    But thats my 2 cents.

    sorry for bad grammar.

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    1. To be fair, Dark Eldar were in the exact same boat. The long wait they had was WELL worth it.

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    2. Iv seen more old school dark eldar models then I have sisters of battle. That said you are right, but I would assume that DE took them a relativity long time.

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  25. I'm afraid that Orks might be before the Eldar. There are a lot of Ork rummors, while nearly no fresh and beliveable eldar ones. I'm sick of rummors of incomming Eldar codex that is postponed for 2 years now.
    Personally I want Eldar and SoB. If they don't want to create a normal codex for SoB they should at least make their rules available, because I can not find the second WD in any store in my country.

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    1. The reason why there are no rumours for Eldar anymore might be that the codex (and the minis) has been finished for some time now. Ergo, no more playtesting, no more concept art floating around.

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  26. What's in the book for Eldar except the flyer and the uber Wraithlord? Will we finally see new plastic jetbikes and plastic Wraithguard?

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  27. Any word on if they will ever be releasing new Chaos sculpts or will we just use 2nd-4th ed sculpts just made of different materials? I'm so freaking over Chaos, who'd have thought GW could make Chaos boring. No new unique characters in the last 3 codexes?

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