A few days back we had some interesting bits from Hastings regarding Space Marines. This is what was said, and this next bit, discusses something was apparently playtested at certain events.

I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumors off?


Please remember that these are rumors. If this mornings information bit comes to light, then we are going to be hearing much more about this new unit over the next month and half.

via Bob Hunk  over on Warseer
Hmmmm, very interesting, this sounds a lot like something that I've seen play tested at certain events. Might be a coincidence but if it's the same thing then I'd expect this "suit" to essentially be a mini-Contemptor dreadnought similar to the RT-era type, designed for living Marine heroes to wear into battle and then leave afterwards. Walker, WS/BS 5, AV11, 5++ save, two power fists (with alternative weapons) and an optional jump pack.

via 75hastings69  on Warseer (response)
Very interesting

37 Comments:

  1. With a jump pack? Sounds fun!

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  2. Flying punchy dread? Pretty sure Blood Angels already have those :P. Jokes aside I'll hold my reservations until I actually see some stats. It is, however, nice to see the possibility of CC options that AREN'T Assault Terminators; they're nice but it'd be nice to run a viable vanilla list where they're not an auto-include.

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    1. I'd rather see viable assault marines be viable. They are so cool in the fluff/and or video games and so lackluster on the table

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    2. Agreed. I've always felt that the plasma pistol upgrade for assault marines is kind of a waste especially for the points. Maybe let them fire pistols in combat, just a thought :)

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    3. Ours will still be better :P I kid, I kid... but actually though. I think an update for the ASM is in order though, as they are included in the battleforce but aren't particularly good. Or even slightly, for that matter.

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    4. Thousands of Xenos just cringed at the thought.

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  3. sounds like an easy first blood VP for the opponent to me.....

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    1. hmm, perhaps they are IC's :) that'd make them pretty good

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    2. Yes... because IC vehicles have such a strong precedent already in place.

      I wouldn't mind seeing them in squads, but I highly doubt the possibility of them being ICs.

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  4. So basically the marines get to be Tau too....

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    1. This was my first thought. Still nothing a solid railgun shot can't deal with.

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    2. Not yet - we'll see when the book comes out.

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    1. Of course not this is a GW original Idea. The Hulkbuster was modeled after this thing.

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    2. Hahaha!

      Tony Stark copied GW? Hahahaha

      Hope to see any pic of this soon

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  6. So Space Marine Killa Kans? Oh, dear.

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  7. Okay so positive these are the Praetor War Machines mentioned in the huge model list. Also with AV 11 and a 5++ save these will wreck MEQ on close combat standard attacks can't pen so many units will rely on krak grenades. Only power weapon at initiative that can do damage is the power maul. Power axes fists and thunder hammers are reduced to initiative 1 and the suits Probly use fists at full initiative so chance you lose it before you use it. The only reliable option you take these guys out will be melta bombs which only the sergeant has and can only use 1 per round of combat along with Probably the only power weapon. And they can get jump packs and alternate weapons. These sound amazingly good for assault. Probably will be targets for lots of shooty and probably best way to take them out unless they get drop pod access.

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    1. Also probably 1-3 models per unit

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    2. Except missile launchers are still way too prevalent in the game.A squad or even two would disappear before it had a chance to do anything worthwhile. Without some decent LOS blocking terrain or a LR to hide behind that stat line gets a resounding meh.

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    3. sounds kinda ridiculs. i mean 3 man 11AV squad? thats silly.. it looks like a relic super armor for commander or something

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    4. Sounds rediculous does it. Have you met landspeeders yet.

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    5. Well Landspeeders are AV10, but anyway I don't find the idea that crazy (depending on points of course), as missiles will destroy them as will most anti-meq and all anti-tank.

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    6. uhm ... 3 man 11AV squad ? Killa cans for space marines gogogo ^^

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    7. AV 10 fast skimmer with Jink and have enough firepower to turn units to mist at range.

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  8. Okay so positive these are the Praetor War Machines mentioned in the huge model list. Also with AV 11 and a 5++ save these will wreck MEQ on close combat standard attacks can't pen so many units will rely on krak grenades. Only power weapon at initiative that can do damage is the power maul. Power axes fists and thunder hammers are reduced to initiative 1 and the suits Probly use fists at full initiative so chance you lose it before you use it. The only reliable option you take these guys out will be melta bombs which only the sergeant has and can only use 1 per round of combat along with Probably the only power weapon. And they can get jump packs and alternate weapons. These sound amazingly good for assault. Probably will be targets for lots of shooty and probably best way to take them out unless they get drop pod access.

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  9. depending on points do you guys think this could be a replacement for sternguard? if it has a jump pack just drop it in, lascannon a character/small unit and hope it lasts?

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    1. Do you mean vanguard? They're the ones with the packs... but no, I don't think anything will ever replace sterngaurd.

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  10. Nemesis dreadknight's little brother?

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  11. At games day uk there was a mention of a mini dread coming out of forgeworld for their 2nd horus heresy era book - massacre. They mentioned it in their panel. Could this be that?

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  12. I can't lie the thought of the old school Chuck coming back does get me a little excited. For those of you who have not played ling enough to remember of the 3 original SM dreads the Contemptor was basically a Furioso dread with a jump pack.

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  13. If this is going to be a vanilla dreadknight paint will be spilt

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  14. Sounds like Buffed landspeeder with fists. If its pointcost is relativ to its Buffs.... I'll say Meeehhh!

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