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Lots of Leaked Images+ Lion Blade Strike Force



The Lion Blade's Strike Force is the new way of playing Dark Angels, and now we can see the layout of just how Dark Angels will be played.

On top of that there are lots of leaked images out there this morning showing off the new Dark Angels releases.


In German and they show some of the Datacards, the Lion's Blade Strike Force and the
text about Company Veterans mentions the use of grav weapons for Dark
Angels units.
http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-dark-angels-bilder-wd-preise-lions-blade-gravwaffen,id43958.html
http://www.gamestrust.de/bilder,list1221,1,warhammer-40-000-dark-angels.html






Lion Blade Strike Force
Here we have a Dark Angels Battle Demi-Company and one or more Auxiliary Choices with a Command Option
via Machinepriest on Warseer
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?409343-Dark-Angel-V-Tzeentch-Daemonkin-boxset&p=7468448&viewfull=1#post7468448

Core 1+
Auxiliary 1+
Command 0-1 per core

Battle Demi-Company =Core
1 Company Master or Chaplain
0-1 Command Squad
0-1 Company Veterans Squad
3 Tactical Squads
1 Assault squad
1 Devastator squad
0-1 Dreadnoughts

Inner Circle- Command
1 Azrael, Belial, Sammael, Company Master, Interrogator Chaplain, or Librarian

Ravenwing Attack Squadron- Auxiliary
1 Ravenwing Bike squad or 1 ravenwing attack bike squad
1 Ravenwing Land speader or Land speeder Vengeance

Ravenwing Support Squadron- Auxiliary
1 unit of Ravenwing Land Speeders
1 Ravenwing Darkshroud or Land Speeder Vengeance

Ravenwing Silence Squadron- Auxiliary
2 Nephilim Jetfighters
1 Ravenwing Dark Talon

10th Company Support - Auxiliary
1-5 units of Scouts

The Hammer of Caliban- Auxiliary
1 Techmarine
1 Land Raider, Land Raider Crusader, or Land Raider Redeemer
1 Unit of Predators, whirlwinds or vindicators

Deathwing Redemption Force- Auxiliary
1 Belial, Company Master, Interrogator Chaplain or Librarian
2-5 Deathwing Terminator Squads
0-1 Deathwing Command Squad
0-1 Deathwing Knights
0-1 Venerable Dreadnoughts






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  1. I was originally joking with my woe is me post about space marines taking the librarius conclave away from Dark Angels and us not getting one, but seeing the Lion's Blade not having one is making me nervous

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    1. AFAIK, the Black Library dataslate is still valid. It'd bloody better be, anyway!

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    2. I don't see why it shouldn't be, but yeah I find it odd.
      Keep in mind though that in the SM codex the FOC was written over two pages (so was the Eldar one), so I am wondering if there are more to this than the pics.

      SM also had three command choices, and they had 8 auxiliary. I find it odd if DA get 2 less command, and 2 less auxilary.

      SM also has the Strike Force ultra, which is not part of the FOC.
      So you never know.

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    3. Oh, also notice another thing:
      There is no formation that use the Black Knights or RW command squad, so I bet there is something not shown.

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    4. yeah it should be valid...although the SM conclave is better: can cast on a 2+ with 3 librarians. DA one is always 3+

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    5. "although the SM conclave is better"

      Quelle surprise, we have to pay extra on top of our Codex for something that's worse than the Vanilla version

      *rolls eyes*

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    6. I imagine the reason is the dataslate, as noted. They're not gonna give you in this book what people have paid for elsewhere. My guess, at any rate.

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    7. Just take the SM Conclave as an allied formation. That's 100% legit but as it's not DA it won't be part of the Blade.

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    8. That is not a complete list...that's only what the white dwarf team took for the detachment... Read people read....You need to do more than just look at pictures

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    9. The whole argument that they won't give you in a book what was bought as a Dataslate isn't true from evidence. The Stormwing in the new SM Codex is basically the same dataslate I bought last year. Not many changes if any.

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  2. There is something strange with the deathwing redemption force's picture in the next WD. Each terminator squad as a Deathwing knight with it. So a sergent, a heavy weapon, 3 stormbolters and a knight.

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    1. It's a guy's converted force, not a studio army, so yeah... Could be anything going on there.

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    2. Prob just running them as TH/SS dudes.

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  3. Be still, my beating heart...

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  4. There had better be a Ravenwing and Deathwing Core.

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    1. I felt the same way about vanilla 1st company. But every marine army (except maybe SW) will be based off the Demi-company.

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    2. The DW RF is pretty much a standalone with the points involved.

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    3. Not really, fully kitted out the compulsory Demi Company units come to about 1000pts, leaves room for Belial and a few Termie Squads in there.

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    4. You only need that core to run a Lion Blade Strike Force. Any datasheet that has the formation icon (3 skulls on a circle) can be taken stand along as a "Formation Detachment" in a Battle Forged army. If the Space Marine Codex is anything to go by, then all the Auxiliary detachments will have the Formation icon.

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    5. Yup, only thing that is not a formation in the SM book is the Strike Force Command choice.
      So fear not :) You will not get the FOC bonuses, but you'll get the Ravenwing or death wing formation bonuses.

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    7. The French White Dwarf talk about 2 other detachment :
      the Deathwing Strike force and the Ravenwing Strike Force

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    8. @Thomas Gardiner: But no one will EVER run that thing fully kitted out. Taking only the required units to unlock the type of force people want to play is around 400 points - and makes sense, as it not only gives the army more flexibility, but rarely do Deathwing or Ravenwing appear on their own.

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    9. Ravenwing and Deathwing can and do operate on their own or in conjunction with each other. They are entire companies and only the Ravenwing and Deathwing units have any idea that the Fallen even exist. So in any operation involving the Fallen, Greenwing units are considered a liability

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    10. Deathwing operate on their own all the time. It is the their job exclusively to capture the fallen. On a personal note, of my 5k DA force, 4k are deathwing, so I'm really hoping they get some love

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    11. Umm, I'll run it kitted out because I care about fluff? In a large battle, it's hard to imagine fluff with 5 Assault Marines with no special kit fighting alongside 15 Tactical Marines with no special weapons or transports. And then 25 Terminators appear from nowhere. Just... Nah.

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    12. Also, +1 IndigoJack, Deathwing and Ravenwing fight alone all.The damn. Time.

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    13. Guess Mcdoogle super troll has never read a ravenwing book, don't list to this GW brown noser, his head is so far up his blue shirts butt he can see the back of his teeth

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    14. @Frank

      That still leaves a Landspeeder tax for bikes. Makeinv RW unplayable.

      And flyers can only be taken 3 at a Time? And more sucky Nephelin than darktalons?

      What if i want to field 1 techmarines on bike?

      This cant be all the CADs?
      If it is i will be forced to play unbound from now on.
      Caus standart foc doesnt Work for RW or DW and tac marines are unplayable.

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    15. "This cant be all the CADs?"

      None of them are a CAD, a CAD or "Combined arms detachment" is a "Force organization chart" or FOC. Most of those things are Formations that go into the Lions Blade FOC.

      Sorry to pick nits, but it's kinda important to know the differences.

      Secondly we don't know the bonuses for these formations. a "Landspeeder tax" might not be as bad as you think.
      Then again you do like to complain about everything seb so why am I bothering.

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    16. Land Speeders aren't bad units, I don't see it as a tax at all. If people don't like the formations they can always take a RW CAD (if the Sammael/Belial/Azrael (or HQ Bike/Terminator) rules are the same and I don't see why not) for their black units and then pick Formations to support it if they like the special rules.

      Personally, looking at the Eldar battlegroup list, I don't think we'll get DW or RW Cores because even though the Eldar are the only army so far to have the flexibility of 3 Core choices their Wraith Construct Host is still an Aux for Iyanden players, and that's about as similar as it gets. :(

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    17. Unplayable (loose English translation- provided by Froogle):
      defined as unskilled at the game so refuses to use units which challenge your strategic mind and influence you to use ever evolving tactica.

      example: Seb12 "oh that is unplayable"

      LOL

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    18. note: Froogle not associated with anything. think of it as a parody on Google + Fun = Froogle =)

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  5. I notice a lack of black knights. Is it just me?

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    1. Yeah, there's no way to field a full RW army that includes Command Squads or Black Knights in those formations =(

      You'll need to stick to the CAD where I guess Sammael will still make bikes Troops.

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    2. Orrrrrrr there's more to the codex than just the one bit previewed in the WD.

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    3. Note that I said: "in those formations."

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    4. And "will need to stick to the CAD" when that is as yet unknown.

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    6. yeah...i'm kindof hoping plasma talon has become an upgrade option for normal bikes - and that a vet biker grants the black knight traits

      ...although it would still be nice to have a full knight squad as a standalone with skilled rider & scout

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  6. They are prob tucked away in the RW detachment proper.

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    1. Then how come the deathwing knights are in this detachment?

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    2. because this is only a preview of some of the options?

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    3. Black Knights are Samuels personal troops, maybe they can only be fielded with a proper RW formation, I doubt they are getting the ax due to they are in battle force and newer kit, maybe we will see a new bike squad since appears attack bike have their own units. I think RW attack squads are going away

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  7. Do not know if it has been said already, but the old terminator captain in terminator armour is coming up as sold out on the games workshop site. Don't know if this means that we will see a new terminator captain like rumoured earlier.

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  8. Deathwing and Ravenwing supplements? Gotta make that $$ and ££ and €€

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    1. If the tzeentch Deamon kin v DA campaign is true they will likely be featured in that.

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    2. OOOORRRR
      They are in same freaking book, on the other page?

      And why on earth will there be a tzentch VS DA? what does the two have in relation to each other?

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    3. "what does the two have in relation to each other?" Both heretics who kill the Emperor's loyal servants? :P

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  9. Hmmm, waiting for the codex itself... but that doesnt look great. It would *appear* from this information that Deathwing army would HAVE to take Belial, and take a 'core' detachment... not cool.

    Still, lets wait and see :)

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    1. Just checked and there's a Deathwing and Ravenwing formation. Internet cookies for Alendrel!

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    2. *detachment, not formation

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    3. I think (although I might be wrong), you could just take 2 DW formations, which would more than make up a DW army. Within it you would get two characters of your choosing (neither of which needs to be in Termi armor, as far as I can see, but that might change), the bonuses that come with each formation (but not any additional bonuses from the Core Detachment), and if you really wanted to take Azrael or someone, you can because there is an inner circle formation too :P

      I think I am understanding formations properly, but if something above is wrong, please let me know!

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    4. You are required to play either CAD or Lion's Blade Strike Force for building your Dark Angels army. If you choose the latter, you have to start with something labeled "Core". For Dark Angels, it will be either a Demi Company, a Deathwing detachment, or a Ravenwing detachment. Then you are allowed to take as many Auxiliary formations as you'd like until you've spent all of your points.

      @Justin: There won't be supplements like that anymore.

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    6. I disagree, if the auxiliaries are formations on their own (like they are in KDK) then multiple formations can make a battle forged army although any additional rules from the lions blade strike force would not apply.

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    7. +1 Slaanesh Lover. Guess McDoogle doesn't have a damn clue what he's on about!

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    8. I'm not Marie why Mcdoogle hasn't benn banned yet he's just an asshat of a troll

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    9. actually mcdoogle you're wrong. while you can build your force around a Lion's blade strike force, there's nothing stopping you from using only a deathwing redemption force. it's a formation and thus totally valid. one could also deploy a CAD alongside a deathwing redemption force

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    10. Or he is a community manager and know what's in the codex.

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    11. Slaanesh you are correct... I think mcdoogle is using SM gladius force if that is true if you take one of three lion sword all other aux formations would be allowed to share rules... Sam codex seems to be redefining way formations can work.

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    12. McDoogle no, no, no. When *not* taking a Lion's Blade every Formation in the book is a Detachment in it's own right so if people want a pure DW Battle-forged army they have two options:

      A CAD with Belial (OR if an HQ takes Terminator armour he makes Terminators Troops like the new Marine does for Bikers) just like in the old book

      The Deathwing Redemption Force formation.

      There is no need to take a Core at all, you only take the Core Demi if you want the Lion's Blade army bonues and we don't even know if they're the same as the Marine's Gladius or different yet.

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    13. Also - Badger - the DW RF Formation can be led by Belial, a Company Master, Interrogator Chaplain or Librarian.

      I expect that there will be a restriction that the IC has to wear TDA.

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  10. Worth remembering that all the previous rumours said there are three detachments in the book, so this would just be one.

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    1. There are indeed 3: Demi Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing.

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    2. This! This will be the basic detachment so I expect a deathwing and a ravenwing detachment to feature too

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    3. This is unconfirmed as far as I know - as I said higher up, all we know is that there is one Core and DW are taken as an Aux choice which can be fielded as a Formation on it's own.

      Technically yes, there are (or will be) DA & DW Detachments, but the DW Formation isn't a Core so far so it can't be used as a Core for a Lion's Blade.

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  11. The Deathwing Redemption Force is a slight update to the first version of that we got in the old "Apocalyse: Reloaded" book.

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    1. it's also in the latest apocalypse book with the same name - although a lot larger # of units course

      granted precision shots & strikes to all units, and disabled any look out sirs by the enemy

      would be awesome if they used a rule like this - maybe with -2 to look out sir instead of disabling it

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  12. Sucks you need greenwing to take the other stuff

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    1. You don't, you can use them as standalone formations =)

      You lose buffs but gain flexibility, from what I understand.

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    2. yeah, those formations are limited though. 0-1 DW knights? What if i want to take 3 DW knights?

      You can still take a CAD of course

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    3. So you're mad that you can't spam the elite unit inside of that formation? Seems to fit the fluff that there's only 1 Knights per 2-5 squads of Deathwing.

      But alas - if you'd like to spam them, you simply fill the minimum requirements and take another Deathwing formation. You are allowed to take as many as you want to fill in the points.

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    4. I've spent my money on them. Eldar can spam Wraithknights. Yes id like to spam DW knights. Preferably with strength D smite mode :)

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    5. Well since spamming wraith knights is terrible..... And a horrible example....

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  13. I may be wrong but as the librarian conclave is a formation can any space marine chapter that gets access to librarians not take it. That's how it used to work anyways

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    1. if you're implying that DA & BA could use it, then no - they cannot. It's specific for codex SM.

      However DA have a very similar dataslate on black library for like $4. It's not quite as good, but very close.

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    2. Actually this is incorrect. As a formation any army that is BB with the formations units can field it. So DA & BA can in fact use the formation. Imperial guard could even use it.

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    3. I'm not sure what you mean by BB but the librarius conclave has the space marine faction and can therefore be used only by codex: space marines.

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    4. Go read your basic rule book again and relearn how to build an battle forged army. We shouldn't have tell you how to make an army this far into the edition. Morgan is correct.

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    7. I think there is a communications issue here. DA can take the SM Conclave using SM Libbys. They cannot use it with DA Libbys. They have to use their own, crappier version unless there is something new in the codex.

      Let's try to remember that there are people on the other side of the internet.

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    8. Hell, you can have a Tyranid Skyblight or whatever formation, a KDK Gorepack formation, and a SM Librarius Conclave as your army and it would be Battle-forged.

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    9. Actually the formations do mot have a faction. They are contained in the space marine codex, it does mot mention what faction the are (as the blood angel ones do) and the only limitation is that the contain librarians or tactical squads etc. i will reread it tomorrow to double check though

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    10. A Formation's 7th edition datasheet has it's faction symbol at the top centre of the page. Marines have a winged skull with a dagger through it as per the BRB's Detachments section :]

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  14. The white dwarf talk about 2+ other detachment :
    the Deathwing Strike force and the Ravenwing Strike Force

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    1. Hoping for that, since that Strike Force is a copy/paste of Marine with Dark Angels Specific units (Stormwing but with Dark Angels Flyers)

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    2. makes sense really as outside of the raven and death wings the dark angels are pretty codex

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  15. Noticed no AA tanks... Was hoping.... I really like how this is looking.

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    1. How is no Stalkers or Hunters a good thing?

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    2. I think he meant he was liking how this book was looking, but because he thinks there is no AA, he is disappointed.

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    4. eh gotta keep something unique for the vanilla marines. with any luck the DA fliers are buffed to a degree to not require ground AA

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    5. I know Brian but I like the aa tanks model wise. I have wished for the land speeder storm because I like model... Grav weapons are nice but won't make it into my collection for awhile I don't need more greens

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    6. Yeah, the lack of Storm is a shame. "WE'RE HUNTING A HERETIC CHAPS, NO SPEEDER TRANSPORT FOR YOU" :/

      We can take both the Marines' 10th Company for Scouts, Bikes & a Storm and also AA Defence formations but they will be non-DA allied Detachments.

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  16. For those panicking about Deathwing and Ravenwing:

    1. There are indeed standalone detachments for them, not shown here.
    2. You realize you can take as many of the "auxiliary" formations as you want once the Core requirements are met, right?

    And don't give me the, "but my local area won't allow formations..." Well then they are dumb, because they are a part of the codex proper now.

    Seriously, we've been in this true 7th edition format since Necrons. It's easy to figure out, but does add elements to the art of list-building. The traditional CAD restrictions do not apply to the formations, and vice versa. In a traditional CAD, for example, to buy a Land Speeder, you are not required to also take bikes. But then you are limited by the Fast Attack slots available. In a Lion's Blade Strike Force, you do purchase Land Speeders and bikes together in a formation, but can take as many of them as you want and will likely see them come with bonus rules.

    It's a trade, but one which offers us a ton more build options and flexibility, while also providing incentives for using a wider variety of units (i.e. internal balance). You can also ally a CAD with a Formation style build.

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    1. There seems to be lot of confusion over what formations can be taken outside the core detachment. Maybe I'm just dense but it seems to be needlessly complicated.

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    2. "It's easy to figure out" says person who doesn't get that you can take the Deathwing formation without needing to take the core formation.

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    3. Looking at RW do you think formation replaced RW attack squad "no combat squad?"

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    4. "it's easy to figure out" says the guy that

      "Having a degree just means you did your homework; has nothing to do with intelligence."

      say that to a university professor or a scientist, doctor, lawyer engineer.....pretty much 90% of those professions that are professionals in their field whatever it may be.

      arrogant much.......the height of arrogance actually.

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  17. This looks pretty awesome depending on the command benefits. Exciting times for you DA players.

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  18. Here's to hoping the Deathwing Redemption Force has the same boni as the similarly named apocalypse formation. Rending on *everything*? Yes please.

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  19. Something making me sad here..... "Asmodai may be taken as an interrogator Chaplain". Guess that means no rules for Sapphon :-/

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    1. Too, in the German White Dwarf the new Interrogator-Chaplain is named Seraphicus. He must have a large wardrobe and personal armoury on the Rock. So many outfits and armour pieces to choose from! :-P

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    2. Wait, it's Sarphaecus, not Seraphicus. Whatever. At least it's not another overused "-iel" name.

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    3. iel comes from the names of all angels ever..it fits the fluff

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    4. And seraphicus is just a poor play on the word seraphim, a class of angels...i admit I was hoping the master of sanctity would be featured, a much more heroic character than asmodai (which by the way is actually the name of a fallen angel asmodeus)

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    5. "-iel" is Hebrew for "of God", "El" being the generic term for a god or deity.

      There are so many other names from the Bible they could have used as inspiration, probably hundreds. Names like Seraphicus show a staggering lack of creativity and/or research.

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    6. I was hoping for Sapphon over Asmodai, but if the latter has decent rules, I will field him even if he is an @$$.

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    7. Its gonna be asmodia, they have a recent model of him n no model for sapphon. Also given how poor asmodias 6th ed rules were they prob have alot of stock to shift of that model

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    8. They could have had both though :-/ Oh well. Hope Sarphaecus isn't the name of the model theyve released, if it isn't can add another scratch built chaplain ha. He can join Asmodai, Sapphon, Seraphicus, Boreas, Belphegor and 3 other as of yet unnamed into chaplains haha. As you can tell, was hoping for something that allowed int chaplain spam.... Think that's what makes the DA

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    9. I just went for converting one on a bike for my black knights to have hit and run/zealot fun, then got carried away n made a librarian on a bike, then started planning a techmarine on a bike. Anything on a bike really, bikes are cool. That said every now n then hammernator belial or ezekiel come out to play.

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  20. Well at least we get Grav now....
    As usual formations look stupid. I'll be sticking to CAD.

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  21. While the contents of the forces are probably correct, I feel like the images of those forces are not from White Dwarf
    http://sepulchreofheroes.blogspot.com/2015/06/why-new-leaked-dark-angels-formation.html

    Maybe I am wrong, but just too much wrong stuff and obvious photoshops (like the EXACT DUPLICATE Terminator Squads)

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    1. Those models belong to Adam Troke. I remember seeing the Captain and the Terminator Librarian in WD Jan/2013 when the 6th Edition Codex was released.

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