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Black Templars, and Other Info from the Sample Pics



There is not a lot of information like normal in the sample digital Space Marine codex downloads. These are available for everyone right now to see, and I figured I would share some of them.....


For one, we can see first hand now that the Black Templar are indeed represented in the Space Marine codex, and not getting a dedicated codex anytime soon.

Other interesting things is the interactive artwork in the sample ipad image. I will be interested to see if this is anything new or not since I am a big fan of the new artwork.

You can also see the Assault Squad, Tactical Squad, Drop Pod, and Captain Lysander pages from the sample downloads.

















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  1. Some of the art work is not up to the usual standard, the one above with the Crimson Fists, just way too cartoon like.

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    1. Can't remember the name of that artist but last year GW hired a cartoon artist who has published his works through Dark Horse and some smaller companies.

      There is a rumour of digital 40K cartoons inbound too.

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    2. Yeah. I miss the gritty, baroque look of JB's art.

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    3. i miss art that didnt just look like a perfect replica of the models. for me, this pic is a step in the right direction, although certainly not perfect (why is he standing there when the chaos marines are within arms reach?)

      also i dont mind that its not dark and gritty, its not the only art style we're gonna have, and its nice to shake things up now and again.

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    4. Yes, it is still better than some of the Cult Mechanicus pictures where it was the same Magos Dominus again and again and again... ><

      I miss Karl Kopinski's baroque and highly detailled illustrations, the 4th edition Space Marines codex cover was absolutely gorgeous... <3

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    5. there is no comparison, the artist from the Imperial Fist pic "gets it" where as the crimson fist pic looks half finished like they forgot they are supposed to be in a war zone

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    6. Crimson Fist is giving the Chaos Marines his best Zoolander impression:

      "Is it because I'm incredibly good looking?"

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    7. I miss Mark Gibbons' work, that was good stuff.

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    8. What happened to Dave Gallagher?

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    9. The less of John Blanche's work in the codex the better. It's one of the reasons I like Codex: Tau Empire so much, and I dislike Codex: Chaos Daemons. I do like a style that goes with the cartoon-y nature of the models.

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  2. Where exactly do we get the hints for templars?
    The Black Land speeder? That's Raven Guard

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    1. If you look at the third photo down it says Crusader Squad aka Black Templar's.
      :)

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    2. there was a page not here that showed the chapter tactics, including those for black templars.

      also the third image on this page has the words "crusader squad" on it

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    3. oops, got here too late P:

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    4. Ah thanks guys, missed that one :)

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  3. Looks like i'll be sticking to the CAD for now. The gladius strike force might offer a lot of benefits, but at the moment its a lot of models i dont want to play and too much money to drop all at once. although re-rolling 1's is always nice

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  4. BTW Next Weeks hints in WD:

    Paint Splatter: A Deeper Shade of Blue.
    Back page: Harnessing the Empyrean.

    I smell Tzeench.

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    1. Yeah its the big space marine wizard getting a release

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    2. Yes Librarian, as we've seen the photo of him, but I can't wait to see the rumoured Lord of Change.

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    3. A yes that guy... forgot about him... Is that all that we get next week?

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  5. Is that third image a list builder in app?

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    1. Yeah. It's force requisition. They've had it on every iPad edition since the last space marine codex.

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    2. Yes and it has been around for a while but it lacks of functions when compared for example to a Quartermaster app.

      Also it is full of simple bugs for atleast a moth after Codex is released.

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    3. It's better for tallying up your entire collection, which is nice.

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    4. The bugs in Skitarii Force Requisition still haven't been fixed. It won't allow a Rangers or Vanguard princeps take a second meleé weapon.

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    5. They're only allowed one mêlée weapon. The wargear page says, "...may take one of the following.".

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    6. I was including the pistol options. It allows only one or the other, not both.

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  6. Thank the Emperor! Black Templar's are still in there!
    (I've been playing them since the Armageddon campaign, I love those crazy zealot's)

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    1. Surprised to read this. I thought most Templar players wanted their own individual codex. It's nice to see some excitement. :)

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    2. As someone who doesn't really play, I dont greatly care if theyre in there or not. I was just hoping for a seperate codex because that would've made the possibilty of new models more likely. I can convert stuff fine, but new stuff would've been nice. At this point I'm pretty sure every first founding chapter has gotten at least a couple of character models. We got literally squat.

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    3. have templars even had any new models since the last time their codex was seperate to the space marine codex?

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    4. Templars haven't gotten a new model in many years. Either the upgrade sprue or possibly the updated Emperors Champion were the last thing I believe.

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    5. The upgrade sprue came out with the codex. Last update was moving the BT characters and Sword Brethren to resin.

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    6. Well there you go. So exactly how long HAS it been since a new BT model came out?

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    7. more recently than a new sister of battle model, maybe?

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    8. I was kinda sticking with SM, but if you want to make it about SoB thats fine. In both cases its a bunch of whale blubber & have every right to whinge

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    9. Black Templars, a second founding chapter, currently have better model support than the Iron Hands chapter (excluding FW, which has also released what might be termed 'Black Templar Precursors').

      You have the plastic upgrade sprue, the Sword Brethren finecast squad, Grimaldus, Helbrecht, and the emperors champion. The Iron Hands have a finecast upgrade kit.

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    10. Im gonna get out of here before somebody complains that the Adeptus Arbites haven't gotten new models in an even longer time.

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    11. Would love to see new models for adeptus arbites.

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    12. I thought the Skitarii Vanguard were Arbites at first glance. The helmets are very similar. Anyway, yes the Black Templars could really use some love. So many possibilities right there as I've mentioned before.

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  7. They could give some love to imperial guard metal models and make them in plastic but NO LETS MAKE ANOTHER SPEEEHHHSSS MEEEEREEHNEEEESSS

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    1. To be fair, they really haven't focused as much on space marines as they have in the past (5th edition). This was a long time coming seeing as how every edition has had a new generic SM codex somewhere in the line up.

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    2. I always wanted a big vostroyan firstborn army but it wasn't so much it being metal or the cost necessarily, it's more the variety as everything starts looking the same and I personally can't work with them to customise very well.

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    3. I always wanted a big vostroyan firstborn army but it wasn't so much it being metal or the cost necessarily, it's more the variety as everything starts looking the same and I personally can't work with them to customise very well.

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    4. Um, isnt the entire line of IG plastic or finecast now?

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    5. a couple plastic kits for even just the basic troops of some alternative guard armies would be fantastic to get.

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    6. My top three most wanted plastic kits, order of preference:

      Update and Improve Catachans
      Vostroyan Firstborn
      Armageddon Steel Legion

      Truth be told, Games Workshop needs to improve their humans. They look wrong. Meanwhile, other companies like Wyrd Miniatures and Infinity, to name only two, produce accurately proportioned humans.

      I've promised myself that, if I return to 40K, I'll buy plastic kits of WW1 or 2 soldiers. Some companies have boxes of twenty or thirty for less than a box of ten Cadians/Catachans....and there's more variety. Could even go feudal if I wanted.

      If other companies can make realistic humans and sell them at a decent price, an expensive company that claims to be "the best" should be able to.

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    7. I'd love to do a catachan army if the sculpts weren't so god-awful.

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    8. @ father gabe: most of the non-cadian/catachan models are still in metal; vostroyan, steel legion, tallarn, i believe, including their commands squads and weapon teams, as well as the base units.

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    9. And strangely taking into account heavy weapons and specials sometimes cheaper than plastic now. Last time I checked I think a squad of Steel Legion was about £20 including missile launcher and grenade launcher.

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    10. It's heroic scale, they aren't supposed to look proportionate

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    11. @Malleas: Thankfully the Skitarii are the correct size, so the process of bringing non-Marine Imperials back to the right scale has started.

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    12. @ nova starb. Heroic scale means we're to lazy to make things look realistic.
      One of the biggest reasons Dkok look light years better than all other guard models is better scaling.

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    13. Hell yes. Compare a Skitarii Vanguard and a Krieg Guardsman side by side and that is the height all AM Guard should be.

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    14. The reason Guard isn't getting a million plastic kits is quite simple:
      The market is to small for it.

      Making metal models is simple, the molds aren't costly, this allows for flavor.
      Plastic molds are expencive, so you need to sell more models for it to pay itself back. Having a million Guard "armies" that very few people play is not logical.

      Space Marines on the other hand is highly popular, and don't have THAT much special going for them.

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  8. From bolter and chainsword forum
    http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_10492/gallery_79873_10492_522.jpg

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  9. I know it's a bit off topic but seeing as all codex have been getting updates, any one recon nids will get an update by end of the year?

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    1. im certainly crossing my fingers for it! there was a rumour that a new edition of apocalypse would be out at the end of the year, along with vect on his dais, and a tyrniad dominatrix model. but im 95% sure it may have just been wishlisting.

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    2. I would expect them to hit the shelves in late December or during january 2016 depending how much time they give for WFB related releases.

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    3. if they drop a new Apoc they had better rethink their Marketing strategy. New rule book OK codex OK but Apoc is a Huge expansion that frankly I just dont want to rework every couple years given the number Of games I get in with it like 5 a year cmon.

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    4. May as well get rid of apoc as 40k can be scaled up to that size anyways. Just hoping for nids as I play nothing else and we seem to be lagging behind

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    5. As a frequent apoc player, 10k, it's not just about the size, there are a TON of extra rules, which is great. If you're playing it right you aren't just scaling up.

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    6. What what you wish for. You might just get a worse of Nid codex yet. This coming from someone who collects Nids.

      I guess if Dark Angels get a good codex Nids will get one as well. It just seems GW likes to spite me and my two armies are Nids and Dark Angels. :P

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    7. i think 4th ed was the last tyranid codex that genuinely EXCITED me, they've not been BAD codexes since, they've just felt too bland.

      im still disappointed in the changes they made to a lot of the biomorphs. so much for toxin sacs on all my termagants.

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    8. Nids have a recent codex and like 5 expansions between dataslates and shield of Baal....so many ways to play...cannot believe people are complaining

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    9. I'm still not forgiving Robin Cruddace for moving the Brood Lord from an HQ choice to an overpriced unif upgrade.

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    10. Would love to have a broodlord as HQ. Starting nids with the shield of Baal box. Would dearly love to move my future tervigon to troops.

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    11. Would love to have a broodlord as HQ. Starting nids with the shield of Baal box. Would dearly love to move my future tervigon to troops.

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  10. Sadly I don't see any restriction on drop pods to non bulky and 3+ or better saves. Let the abuse continue.

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    1. I admit I like being able to have a character in Termie armor join a squad of 8 in a pod, but as DA, that's all I really could do.

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    2. im glad its not, tailoring the rules just to stop cheese isnt the right way to go. i dont see why transports became fast attack, instead of just making a symbol for "dedicated transport"

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    3. I do not want DPs to change, but, does the rule transport capacity pertain simply to #s that can fit inside a pod or is it an exclusive list of occupants?

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    4. its only exclusive if the specific transport states so, such as rhinos stating terminators cannot ride inside

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    5. I am mostly interested in limiting the non marine imperial allies using the space marine drop pod taxi service that seems to be getting more common.

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    6. So we can now take 3 centurions in a drop pod right?

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    7. Bulky units will still count as 2 models (for transport purposes) right? Are cents 3 a piece?

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    8. @CPM: It appears that is not high on GW's priorities, unfortunately. Basically they don't care if we continue to buy models. So if someone is using Drop Pod taxis against you, may as well hand it right back to them with your own Pods.

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    9. The rule wouldn't be put on the drop pods, but rather the Centurions.
      That said I doubt it will be any change.
      You still need to go CAD, and use two slots to field them.

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  11. I just don't get it. Seth is a LOW(?!) but Lysander isn't, that's complete garbage! Now this guy in my gaming group will be completely insufferable (he is a huge fan of "highlander"), I was hoping he would be a low as then he couldn't use him....

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    1. You can use LoWs in highlander

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    2. Only chapter masters are LoWs. So Calgar, Kantor, Helbrecht and Azrael for Da will be LoW.

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    3. Lysander isn't a chapter master is he.

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    4. I really hope Kantor isn't made a LoW and nope Lysander is the First Captain. Incidentally so is Kantor, as well as being Chapter Master.

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    5. Well if Kantor continues to give all Sternguard Objective secured I would think making him LOW would be a nice price.

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  12. Anyone else see the gunslinger rule for assault marines in the interactive codex picture? Can assault marines get two pistols each now?

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    1. That would actually be pretty cool.

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    2. Gunslinger is already built in to the pistol rules (main rulebook). I dunno about two pistols as an option though. I'd say probably not.

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    3. doesnt look like they can have two pistols, all the ranged weapon options for the unit (from the rules in the new kit) say it replaces the bolt pistol

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  13. I dont really feel excited about this codex. The codex before was perfect. Except for guys who need an extra justification to use dreadnoughts or assault marines, are you really happy to spend another 58$?

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    1. Wait until you see all the formations.

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    2. nope. that is why there is a good chance that my efforts in growing the hooby/game interest will result in failure in my area, so good chance i won't be buying the new dex (and only will possess a copy- which is more then the preview i recieved, via PDF format and free)

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  14. DID ANYONE NOTICE THE TWO WOUNFS FOR ASSAULT MARINES

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    1. It's a 1. Just dodgy picture quality.

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    2. Assault Marines has rules in the box, no two wounds there friend :)

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  15. DID ANYONE NOTICE THE TWO WOUNFS FOR ASSAULT MARINES

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