First off, this was a very close game, and was the second game working with the new Chaos Space Marines.  The first game is not really worth discussing too much, as it CSM's were very much wiped out. So understand first off, that the games here are very much putting the CSM codex up against a very hard list. The purpose of course is to kill the learning curve, and get right down to the CSM codex.



The game's mission was Relic. So in the center we had a relic that must be recovered and the rest of the victory points for the game are very much centered on secondary objectives. The board was set up using the alternating terrain system in the rulebook. It came out very unusually balanced and open, which suited both lists that were about to take the field.

On the Chaos Marine side of things we are looking at an Abbadon list, with two heldrakes, lots of Chosen Marines loaded with plasma, 3 Havocs, some Chaos Spawn, and some cultist units. There are some proxies (on both sides) as the oblits you see in the video are actually the chaos spawn. The empty juggernaut you see in the video is also a Chaos Lord on a juggernaut and daemon weapon.

On the Grey Knight side of things I am not going to go into much detail, as it is a list I am personally building (there are quite a few proxies the grey knight side). It is a Coteaz list, and the rest well, I will let the video show.

To start off, the Chaos Marines did roll a six to seize the initiative, however with Coteaz I made him re-roll that, and of course he did not succeed. The very first round of the game was very much Grey Knights moving forward 6" and unleashing a torrent of firepower into the Chaos Marine side of things. Several heavy weapons in the Havocs died, alongside every transport (one was immobilized the rest destroyed). So heavy casualties at the top of 1, with only two vehicles suffering wrecks on the return fire.

Getting right down to it, the Storm Raven came in and obliterated its points worth almost immediately at the top of 2, gunning down most of the Chaos Spawn, and later in round 3 wiping out a Havoc Squad.

Of particular note, two of the three Havocs were set up with 2 Autocannons and Two flakk upgraded Missile launchers. These two units were very flexible and worth the 145pts they cost.

The Heldrakes were fantastic. They of course were set up with flamers, and wrecked havoc on the Grey Knight side of things. There really is very few places to hide from these things. Those flamers are nasty. Not to mention that on their flyby going into round 4, one was shot down and its wreckage wiped out two full grey knight warrior acolyte squads, and damaged two separate vehicles.

In the end, it was very tough for the Grey Knights to grab the relic, and only during the top of 5 did they get the chance to grab it. There was always someone there to prevent the Grey Knights from taking it, and in the end, Abbadon assaulted the center of the board and took out the unit holding the objective.

The final Score was 1-0 Grey Knights for getting first blood.

If we had been doing kill points, it would of been GK 15   CSM 16
Victory points wise, about 3-400 pts of Chaos was left on the board, and about 5-600 pts of Grey Knights.

Looking back, I really liked the two Havoc Squad layouts, the third was a full autocannon squad. Abaddon was particulary nasty with his Black Crusader Warlord trait, although I do not think it was used to its full effectiveness. It sure saves a lot of plasma gunners.

In the end though, it was the Heldrakes that won mvp of that battle. They were scary to be up against, and with anything short of a terminator 2+ save, there is not much to do but hide in your transport when those dragons are coming your way.

30 Comments:

  1. nice battle report. the music on the video was nails on a chalk board though.

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  2. I hate the Relic Mission =(

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  3. Did you feel there was good synergy with Abaddon and the Chosen?

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    1. Yes. Although I think he could capitalized on it much more during the game.

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  4. Hmm if I was the chaos player I would have swapped my list around a bit but I'm wondering if he just simply wanted to try a certain build or he didn't know your list beforehand. Anyhow absolutely loving the grimdark Board wish I could a close up on some of those terrain pieces they look extremely. This battle report just reinforces my desire already to acquire Heldrakes. I believe running 2 one on each flank is best at least with my Playstyle. Excellent report sounded like a nailbiter right to the very end.
    ChosenofTzeentch

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    1. Lmao exhausted college student brain fart. Could get a close up* and impressive after extremely.**
      ChosenofTzeentch

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    2. He knew my list before hand, and in fact, once we both sat down, we altered his list with some improvements that I thought would help.

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    3. However, we were also working on a list that is an all comer list, so while he knew what I was fielding, it was just a consideration. We wanted a tough match, and break some of the learning curve.

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  5. Abbadon list with chosen I tried it and i must say they will truly watch the galaxy burn and chosen with Flamers and mark of khorne not bad because u jump out of rhino and then u still get counter attack.
    DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!!!

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  6. Great insights. I've been wanting to try a duel Heldrake list, as a solo drake has just been devastating to my opponents.

    I actually wrote a Heldrake Review and Tactics article if anyone's interested:

    http://murphy80.hubpages.com/hub/Heldrake-Review-and-Tactics-Chaos-Space-Marines

    I wish that I liked the Black Legion better because I love Abaddon. I think having Chosen as troops really reflects a warband of marines that have been fighting the Long War for 10,000 years, and the combination of Preferred Enemy and Hatred (Space Marines) can be very powerful over the course of a few rounds.

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    1. I agree. I think our current CSM Troop choice is great, but only for our Renegade warbands. I think something closer to chosen is needed to represent legion CSM. Particularly for the other 5 legions not represented by cults

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  7. Double helldrake ftw, haven't liked Abby with plasma chosen, but glad to see they did well and gave the GK a run for their money. Funny how in this instance first turn was the thing that won(getting First Blood is almost always guaranteed)

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  8. Sorry..... Unrelated post here.

    If Dark Angels are really a November release, shouldn't we have some more solid leaks by now???

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    1. Latest rumours say Jan-March release for them.

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    2. latest rumors have not changed.

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  9. So what was the reason of abbadon with the Cultists?

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    1. To give Abbadon 10 additional wounds as he supported his chosen and moved forward to kill anything within his assault reach.

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    2. Doesn't sound like it was a problem in the game, but that is not recommended dude. Abaddon could potentially be allocated t3 wounds if there are more wounds than cultists left, which at t3 is likely if your opponent plays it right. If you want more wounds for abaddon, take pm's or csm's with mon.

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    3. Spawn have worked pretty good in some of my games as a meat shield. They did get annhilated against a barrage of DEldar splinter rifles. 4+ to wound a T5 with no save, yikes!

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    4. try giving them mon next time for T6 :)

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  10. nice vid id like to see the chaos list as for the points it looked really light on the ground for troops and vehicles

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    1. justhought id tag on a question why dont u want 2 post the GK list weve all seen coteaz lists their not a secret and more than likely some 1 else has a similar coteaz list to wat ur building

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  11. I have seen and read a few battle reports over past week using the new codex. So far the biggest winner seems to be the new spawns from what I can tell, there is a lot of love for them overall. Also Nurgle themed armies seem to be the most competitive so far.

    Also seen a report of someone using 3 x 35 units of zombies. Can find It in the reports section of Dakka near top of the page. Very fun read but just shows what a shooty army can do to so many zombies. XD

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  12. Has anyone ran the black mace on anything yet and how did it work out if so?

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    1. I have used the black mace against space wolves and dark eldar on a regular chaos lord on a bike. It worked wonders so far.
      A dark eldar squad of 20 was charged by my lord solo, dirge caster prevented overwatch. He wiped the squad.

      Even against a squad of terminators it did surprisingly well. With the extra d6 attack you can be certain one terminator will fail it's armour save, the rest will have to make a test with no saves :)

      Since then I have used the mace on a nurgle sorceror on a bike, when you debuff a squad with -1 T the mace is extra deadly.

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    2. Sounds good. Nice one. I was thinking about running it with a Tzeentch sorc in termi armor and then using Biomancy in conjunction with the mace. Seems very durable and deadly that way but looses the mobility of your set up with out the bike. Worth the trade or is bike and MoN all that's needed?

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    3. Well that is an option offcourse, but if I was using that setup I would footslog him (not very mobile), put him in a raider (expensive) or deepstrike him (not active on turn one).
      So depending on your plan I cannot advise what to do with him.

      For me, I like him mobile so he can be anywhere I want (out of harms way or in to the fray as I please).
      I also have the option of him joining some spawns of nurgle so he will be way more survivable and does not waste the unit as much in the shooting phase. My melta gun bikers can target something else as well then.

      So it all depends on the way you use your list.

      MY 1750list:

      Khorn lord on juggernaut with axe of blinding fury and burning brand
      Sorcerer lvl 3 nurgle, black mace on bike

      15 cultists autoguns
      15 cultists autoguns
      4 spawns nurgle
      4 spawns (khorn lord goes here)
      5 nurgle bikers, 2 melta guns
      Maulerfiend
      3 oblitorators nurgle
      8 havocs 4 autocannons, slanesh icon of excess
      3 mutilators, nurgle (for fun)

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  13. What was that music? I need something creepy like that for my Dark Heresy games!!!

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