This rumor will throw you for a loop, No Chaos Legions........ at least this year. Instead this rumor set today calls today for Eldar hitting the second half of the year.

Lets talk other sources and on how they clash. Harry at the very beginning was saying that Eldar were going to be in the mix of the starter set, but then changed his opinion when Hastings declared Dark Angels and Chaos were the starters. Other rumors have firmly placed Chaos as coming this year, so when it comes to this rumor, its going to need a lot of salt to swallow this.

I do think we are going to see a codex in June, however even if it does end up being Dark Angels (50/50 vs Chaos), I do not think that would give credence to this rumor about Eldar coming this year.

Please remember that this is a rumor, and grant it a ton of salt.

via drbored
I got a rare opportunity to ply a wealth of information for some knowledge and insight about what's coming up next/soon.
Here's the rundown...
Dark Angels (May/June)
6th Edition (July/August)
-Starter Box featuring Dark Angels vs. Eldar
Eldar (Oct/Nov Xenos slot)

And somewhere in that mix is going to be a splash release of fliers that *should* include the Harpy, Voidraven Bomber, Doom/Night Scythe, and possibly more. When I mentioned 'Autumn of Fliers' I got a derisive snort, so we may see it sooner, we may see it later.

This confirms two things:
1. It's not going to be Dark Angels and Chaos for the Starter Box. GW is NOT going to put two power armor armies in the same box. Power armor is their bread and butter, and to put two power armor armies in one starter box doesn't follow any trends, going back to the Rogue Trader days. It *may* be Dark Angels vs. Tau, but my source suggested Eldar strongly for several reasons.
-A. Eldar is a girl-getter. It's the one army that attracts more girls to the game than any other.
-B. Eldar is currently the worst selling army.
-C. Eldar has a massive loyal fanbase.

Eldar are the logical step, and now they're the rumored next step in this coming Xenos season.

2. Chaos is not going to be coming out this year, but may be slotted for early 2013. This is good and bad... bad because we don't get Chaos sooner. Good because it means Chaos will be a true 6th edition army, and not a 'made for' 6th edition army. This will put more time between the release of the rules and the finessing of the Codices, which means a better 6th edition Codex for Chaos. We could, of course, get a surprise, where they slam in a new Codex into the year, but that doesn't trend either. My source suggested, however, that we may see a lot of 'splash' releases packed in, with the aforementioned fliers being one.

As for my source, of course I can't reveal him. It'd be a plain disservice to his trust. What I can say is that he is a wealth of knowledge about all things GW, Forgeworld, and Black Library, and has many contacts therein (and I don't mean GW store managers. I mean Codex and BL authors, and GW and Forgeworld sculptors).

I would be very surprised if I was proved wrong by the passage of time and the developments therein, but such is the nature of the future. Take it or leave it, but I'm confident that you shouldn't have to take too much salt with this.

A counter to the rumor.....

via Eldargal
I've been told that Eldar have been the 2nd or 3rd best selling army after Space Marines in general and Imperial Guard (depending on the codex) since the 90s, from a variety of reliable sources over the past year (including past and present high-ups in GW). The idea that they have suddenly become GWs worst selling army strikes me as somewhat ridiculous. Not to mention B and C woudl basically contradict themselves, how would GW know Eldar have a huge fanbase if they don't sell well and why would they not sell well if they have a huge fanbase? Very few of the kits are dated to the extent you see in some other ranges and the plastic kits are abundant and excellent.

I've also been hearing from a few reliable rumourmongers that Eldar are firmly slotted in for next year, which doesn't necessarily mean they won't be in the starter.

I'd like for these rumours to be true but I can't help but be very skeptical, too much of the reasoning seems like speculation and assumptions.

Also, as for Eldar being a 'girl-getter' this seems to me like more fan speculation. Obviously I only have anecdotal evidence but I know close to thirty female games online and in person and Tyranids are the most popular choice, with Eldar, SoB, Orks, IG, DE and SM all being roughly equal.

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  1. I find drbored's post to be VERY hard to believe honestly. It seems like he is either coming up with his own ideas, or that he is completing making it up in an attempt to troll the blogosphere. We'll see though.

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  2. Screw Eldar, chaos need it way more in my personal opinion. I agree putting 2 power armour armies in the same box set is a bad idea however releasing eldar just because you need a second army for 6th ahead of chaos is just GW being greedy cash whores (oh yeah that explains it, eldar it is then).

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    1. Eldar need it more but chaos DESERVE it more...just saying...

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    2. Chaos NEEDS this!

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  3. I'm surprised! But then were we not supposed to have Tau and Templars by now? Before that the Sisters of Battle, who got the WD treatment instead.

    Smoke and mirrors people.

    I'm just waiting until pictures of May white dwarf pages appear.

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  4. I am waving the BS flag here, the Eldar rumours make no sense and this guy sounds more like a wishlisting troll, also the comment on the "girl getter" issue is out of place, GW has been known to target a yournger audience, but to specifically chase down females sounds odd. As before there are to many fingers pointed in the direction of DA and Chaos coming next within this year, on a final note if you look at the schedule written above 6th is slotted where we would be more likely see a fanatsy release. On a final note here if 6th was to be released as this man professes it would suggest that it would be a small and minscule release. This however makes even less sense, the release of a new edition would be a much larger release that what we are seeing here.

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  5. So i will continue my BA and nex year I will continue my iron warriors (or not)

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  6. eldar 2nd fav army :D LOL
    one of the fav. armys but not as fav. as CSM ORKs or IG.

    And look at the eldar range... most of the figs have not changed since 2nd ed... the grav tanks are the only thing that got added to the model range

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    1. I think space marines should be included in that brief list.

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    2. Not..everyone..loves..space...marines...HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

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  7. Let's begin the dissection of this rumour!
    1) Eldar is a girl getter - why the hell would this matter?
    2) Eldar is the worst selling army - BS. As Eldargal says, I thought Eldar were fairly well selling. After all, they've just had a fair bit of love from Forgworld. I would expect the worst selling army to be Black Templars, as it's the one army I've never seen anyone play (although this is only anecdotal evidence).
    3) Eldar has a massive loyal fanbase - when viewed with the statement above, this is a blatant contradiction.
    4) Chaos may be slotted for early 2013 - WTF? This goes against almost every rumour I've seen on the subject, and I don't like the word "may". That implies that it's not fixed, and as he's already said that Chaos aren't coming out this year, it seems to me like he thinks there's a fair chance that Chaos will get pushed back even further.
    5) My source has many contacts within GW - so this is second hand information? I'm sorry, but this just makes it even less reliable.
    My overall conclusion is that this rumour needs lethal amounts of salt to swallow some of the BS contained within.

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    1. Can feel my arteries clogging already!

      1) Surely Sisters of Battle is more girly than Eldar. They are after all mostly women, and warrior women at that.
      2) Agreed! If I ever find myself with lots of money I'm getting a Phantom Titan! Best Titan so far!
      3) Once other armies are done, I'm getting a small force of Eldar. They're just not my favourite. Not what you call fanbase, but fan nonetheless.
      4) Legions was 'at the printers' last time I saw them rumoured here. Might not mean they're imminent but surely they're not a year away.
      5) Sounds like third hand info to me.

      Still, as my earlier point alluded to, not even Tzeentch could predict what GW will do in the future. Many a Lord of Change has torn out his feathers in frustration.

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  8. Looks like someone's aspiring to be the next ghost21.

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  9. Reliable rumour sources claiming the Legions book to be at the printers would make the "made for 6th ed" claims entirely impossible, because they can't alter an already printed codex.

    And most of the girls that I know that play 40k play Orkz or Dark Eldar <.<

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  10. His exposition about his source makes me incredibly suspicious.
    If you don't want to say who your source is, you just don't mention them.
    Not to mention, his supposed source is far too perfect, and anyone with that much access to GW would be on complete lockdown with everyone else, particularly now with the Hobbit company's extreme hate for leaks.

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  11. Dark Angels and Tau will be in the starter box. How do I know this, I don't! I'm just guessing based off of GW's history and all of the photos over the last 6 months showing the two armies together. GW loves to hide stuff in plain sight. Remember the Orc & Goblin spider and the Space Marine statue?

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    1. That is more sensible than I thought at first...!

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    2. What ever happend to SM and necrons in starter set? Necrons are
      1. Easy to assemble?paint
      2. represent sinister xenos
      3.fairly simple rules
      4. Badass
      I dont get it...

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    3. Fairly simple rules? Yeah, good luck with that.

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  12. I have a Chaos mega force, an even larger Ork Waaagh, Space Wolves and Dark Eldar

    My girlfriend has Eldar (and a claim to my Ork mega horde). She would like Sisters down the road.

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  13. I think that it will be Squats and Tomb Kings in the 6th box. There is a lot of demand for Squats these days, and Tomb Kings haven't sold so well lately. I heard this from a guy who lives with another guy whose brother was roomates with a girl who dated another girl who works three doors down from a printer that prints 40k rumors, so I think this is legit.

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    1. The most amazing thing about this comment, is I heard the exact same thing. However I heard it from a friend of the guy that lives with your guy that has a brother who was roomates with the girl that dated that other girl. Even though she said she was three doors down from the printer that prints 40k rumors, I think its actually 4 doors. So given that she cannot count, I only give her a 50/50 chance of being legit.

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    2. I heard it was Hrud and Old Ones. That came from a leprecorn who knew a fairy that was told by unicorn. Unicorn had scratched its back on a lamp and a genie granted him one wish. As you can imagine the unicorn was well miffed but learned the genie worked for GW and couldn't really grant wishes until after the Hobbit is released. So the unicorn wished to know what was next and was told the following:

      May: Necrons 2nd wave
      June: Hrud
      August: 6th edition with fluff on how some Old Ones survived to repopulate the race whilst hiding in the 17th dimension of the 18th squabadekahedron galactigum.
      September: starter set
      November: Old Ones

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    3. Crap! My information came from someone whose friend who dated a girl whose friend was roommates with a guy who worked for some guy who dated a girl who lives 2 streets away from where 40k rumours are printed. They told me that Games Workshop had decided that as sales of everything during 5th edition were so bad, they needed to shake things up a bit.
      This means GW are going to skip straight to 7th edition, where the story gets interesting around the year 42,000. By then, most races are dead, except Chaos, and it was finally revealed that the Grey Knights were in fact, mostly Alpha Legion.
      But because filling the starter set with Chaos wouldn't work very well, it will be Ultramarines vs... well, actually they're not really fighting anyone, it's just filled with Ultramarines, because they're a "girl-getter", and they're the worst selling army at the moment, but they've still got a loyal fanbase.
      And don't worry guys, I trust my source completely, and I'm confident you shouldn't have to take too much salt with this.

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    4. My info came from my grandmother recalling her life in the Uk... when she met the baker, who had an affair with the maid who was working for the KGB who wanted to find gov't secrets. She then broke into a presumed intelligence office and stole copies of...Warhammer 40K upcoming projects....(sorry if i killed it)

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  14. Tyranids are a girl getter cause they were second race in 4th starter...boyz took power armor boyz from the box =)

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  15. What I got from that? Chicks hate Necrons lol

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  16. Girls who play warhammer play because they're gamers, just like the rest of us, they won't be conned into playing by bright colours and pointy heads in the starter box, that's just insulting to them. I have noticed absolutely no correlation amongst armies played by girls. In fact if I think about it the most common army amongst girls I know is orks, so explain that.
    Also, I don't see how eldar can possibly be the worst selling is SoB models aren't even stocked in GW stores.
    In defence of this rumour however, saying eldar is the worst selling and that they have a massive fanbase is not in fact, formally, a contradiction. The implication of this is that there are a lot of people out there with eldar armies who haven't bought anything new in a long time (probably because eldar is on the bottom end concerning competitiveness, and haven't gotten new models in a long time). As such only 4 of the 5 counter arguments to this rumour are valid XD.

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    1. I doubt they even count SoB considering they got some lip service in a white dwarf and then were quickly forgotten.

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    1. So you have not even got the balls to post who you are so I dont think you have the balls to wank dude!! Go and try and grow a pair first!!

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    2. And here ladies and gentlemen is what happens when two anonymous meet in the wild...

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    3. Fanwank sounds more like it would go the other way around, if GW released everything everyone wanted all at once.. They'd be beating off gamers with both hands.

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  18. I think GW knows that Eldar have a large loyal fanbase because Eldar sales WERE good back in the 4th ed. NOW, Eldar sales _might be_ down, because let's face facts, Eldar have an overpriced, old codex with very few working options and most people who play Eldar already have these options. Not to mention the entire Elite section is finecast, there are no Wraithguard in Finecast, and Eldar are the only army that has a R12" gun for their mainline troops (and Dire Avengers just cost WAAAY to much for what they can deliver, compared to other recent codex troop choices.)

    Eldar have one of the oldest books and they definitely need some upgrades to fare better against DE, GK, and power armor as well. (On the other hand, I saw Eldar winning tournaments here in Hungary, and not only once.)

    Another fact, Eldar had the same units and aspect roughly from 3rd ed. No real changes here. So just releasing a new book would not necessarily generate sales. GW has to come up with something to make Eldar sell better. More vehicles, more aspects (even plastic kits for them), shiny new models - to convince the loyal players who have 3000+ Eldar to actually BUY something.
    That's where the thunder strikes: new edition, rumoured Xeno dominance, new codex, new models, and the starter set. Makes perfect sense to me, making Eldar the poster guys for the 6th Ed. Generate some sales. See if the numbers are right and the managers are pleased.

    Then, remember, GW's fiscal year ends somewhere in April / May - and Chaos will be a definite block buster, a best seller army. Let's have Chaos in April 2013 - before the end of the fiscal year. Loyal people buy Eldar at the end of 2012 - everyone buys Chaos starting 2013 - boom, sales are up, fiscal year turns out to be good, the managers are happy.

    That's how a profit-oriented company works. That's how I would do if I was in charge and cared only about money (and believe me, EVERY profit-oriented company that is market leader ONLY cares about money).

    Of course, from a fan's point of view, this is bad, and many will cry "I hate GW because no Chaos in 2012..."

    But, in the end, every one of them WILL buy Chaos when it comes out. And GW knows that...

    Besides, from a sales point of view,

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    1. Well, if 6th edition IS eldar, they can avoid aspects in box by having PLASTIC wraith guard. Imagine how many boxes that'd sell.

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    2. well wasnt there a rumor about wraithstormers, also in september and an arch autarch of beil tan a while back?

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    3. Termagants have a 12" range gun and they are the closest thing to mainline troops tyranids have, but I get your point about Eldar being dated.

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  19. BS! Mates, Chaos is done, I have the codex. I am unsure if it will drop before or after 6th as it is heavy with 6th ed rulings that don't make sense, and I am not privy to 6th-ed ruleset information. But until you see otherwise, officially consider bloody chaos as the next codex in line and quit believing this other hogwash from obvious liars.

    Cheers, Grant

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    1. Grant, we would be very intested in some information, or perhaps via an email. natfka@live.com

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    2. Believe me mate, I would love to tell. But if I tell then I stand a chance to lose the source where I get my documents.

      As it stands, this is the problem with leaks, after awhile the sources catch on and don't want to let info go anymore. Therefore I choose to remain silent as to the contense of the book so I can maintain my anonymity. Althought I will mention one thing. The only reason I chose to say anything at all is because I am bloody tired of reading bull shit "I think" or "possibly" rumors that are merely guesswork at best. I hate fake rumors. Of couse I realize that from your position you have no better reason to believe me than any other, and that is how I choose to leave it. I do want to state what NOT to believe though...

      First of all, theDarkGeneral is a complete arse. If you hop over to warseer you can open the chaos thread and every single post in there is bloody rubish. Don't believe any of it. With that said, chaos IS next, after 6th. That is all I choose to say. Believe me or not, it is your choice, but you won't be disappointed if you take my word for it. I for one am not trying to diddle you gentlemen.

      Also, stickmonkey is a massive liar. But this is just my personal opinion and as it stands I do not have the resources to call him out on specifics. Stickmonkey should be hung my his jewls for his heresy to the 40k community along with theDarkGeneral and Ghost21.

      The only one I can't speak for is Harry, I just find it odd that although he recieves all of this info that is apparently has no clue about 40k and speaks of it as if he is somehow confused. Harry, it's not rocket science. Bollocks. Red Flag.

      I appologize for not being able to provide more info, I know it is quite terrible of me, but my hands are tied. You'll just have to take my word for it.

      Cheers, Grant

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    3. So your lack of real info implies that you dont know anything...Could be wrong but ive heard the "o if i tell i loose my source!" before. Please dont troll us grant.
      With Respect
      JD

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    4. Some people who say "o if i tell i loose my source!" are in fact telling the truth. Think about my position. As far as I know the man who I get my documents from only knows that I alone have access to them. And who knows if he has given it to anyone one else. So if 100 accurate rumors come out who do you think he will bloody well suspect?

      Sure I could leak real facts mixed with fake bullets to throw people off my tracks but I refuse as that would be against what I believe in. Mates, just be happy that I'm not on here making stuff up like 99% percent of these other jokers.

      I don't know the release date. But I'll tell you one thing. When this book comes out I will be vindicated. You'll think. Hmmm...Grant wasn't lying, theDarkGeneral really was full of rubbish and so were the rest of the arse hole rumor mongers.

      I am not looking to become the next "big rumor king". I just want to set the record straight. I don't have eldar yet, I don't have tau yet, I don't have dark angels yet, I have chaos. So harry can take his eldar rumor and shove it. Damn Wanker.

      Grant

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    5. I think we all know Grant the book IS coming out soon. What I dont believe it is you actually have it. So do you think your "Source" then likes it when you go onto this blog and say"HEY everyone i got CSM codex, All the rumor people are balls!" Yeah dont think so. Wheather your just arrogant or inconsiderate is beyond me. Another thing, how can you trash all these rumor people? You give just about as munch info as they do, hell even i could and obsere
      " Hey everyone i just got a copy of the eary tau codex. No pics but it has the rules and i can ttell you its sweet, and will be out later this year, trust me"
      See how easy it is???

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    6. well Grant. If you do indeed have the codex, the privacy policy I have with sources here on Faeit more than cover you. Best to talk via email though, rather than through comment sections.

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    7. @JayDee And what would be the benefit of you saying that? So you could sit here and argue with someone questioning your sincerity? My question is this, what is in this for me? Why would I come on here and waste my time only to give a vague statement about the reliabilty of rumor mongers and about the status of a codex. There is nothing in this for me. By me simply stating that I have the codex and that it is a sure bet to be released immediately after 6th implies nothing about who I am.

      If I wanted to get everyone to get on their hands and knees and worshiping my jibblits I'd go post threads up with the actual facts rather than knowingly get riticuled for not revealing info.

      @Natfka I'll keep it in mind, as I like your blog quite a bit, as do a lot of my blokes. But as of right now I'm not comfortable doing so.

      Grant

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    8. Perhaps for the same reason TheDarkGeneral, Harry, etc. do (like you said their full of bs.) Maybe you have codex but You can only play it with yourself as no one else has it, so get yourself, maybe 2 month headstart? But your question...the answer is for the fun(?) Why would people create a supposedly real 6ed? For the laugh. Sorry if im wrong but to me your arrogance is univiting, yes you MAY have the info, why state so and bash the rumor people so arrogantly? But only you can no if your lying not me..
      @ Natfka Sorry for ruining your catch...

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    9. I find Grant more credible. Not because of his bold claim to have the codex, but because Legions have been the talk of the rumour mongers for so long. There has also been a lot of detail in the rumours. More than Tau had when they were supposedly next!

      By the way, Codex Daemons was released before 5th edition but had 5th edition rules! Offensive and defensive grenades was the one that stood out!

      Codex Necrons has some interesting rules too. Notice the Monolith has a 'Heavy' special rule. "Can only move at combat speed but counts as stationary for fire weapons." Think that will be the new rule for Leman Russ Battle Tanks come 6th edition, replacing lumbering behemoth! Then there's special rules for units which would just be stupid to use with the current rules.

      So codex Legions might be done, printed and given the thumbs up. And I've nothing to gain by saying so. I've no interest in collecting a Chaos army of any description.

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    10. I have to agree this Grant fellow has some credibilty to his posts here. If one is to study the past patterns as rumours go and look at patterns viewed in when releases occur from GW, also take in account that every other month we typically see a trend of Fantasy, then 40k released, and a final pattern of Imp. then xenos dexes, one could come to the conclusion that Chaos could come right after a 6th ed. release. All rumours, until this one about the Eldar have pointed to the release of Chaos or DA, plus in the new paint line, there now is a DA paint starter kit. What throws most of this off is the idea of there being a non-Imp. dex after there being a non-Imp. dex, then again it can be safe to assess that the release of new edition can change the pattern significantly. Don't quote me on these things I am simply studying the rumours and the patterns. I am claiming anything true or correct here.

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    11. Sorry my last sentence I AM NOT CLAIMING ANYTHING TRUE OR CORRECT HERE.

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    12. I have no problems with this conversatino as long as it does not simply evolve into a arguement or name calling. Just be civil please.

      Please be aware that rumor sources tend to get the worst of it all when ever they stick themselves out with information. As a policy on this site, direct rumors sources are protected, even completly remaining anonymous with words changed and information left out to protect them.

      Sometimes this means I can't give out everything told to me, and for that I apologize to readers. I only print what sources feel comfortable with me printing.

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    13. Law of the Internet, as most people know this...

      Pics or it did not happen...

      when an Anon agrees with an Anon that people have trouble believing makes you wonder! ;)

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    14. Im only agreeing, due to it sounding more feasable...

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    15. What I believe Jay is getting at is that the Anon with the Codex is only saying that the rumor mongers are wrong off, way off the mark with no other argument to support that reasoning. It's a one sided battle where 'Grant' is saying a whole lot mess of nothing. Now I am not picking on Grant, and Jay must have a bad day and took it out on Grant.

      The problem with Anon's and alter ids is you cannot tell who is who. Yeah there are clues in the writings a person may get across, but I originally skipped over this whole part of the conversation when there was nothing in it worthwhile to read.

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    16. So just because I found it skeptical that he had the codex means I had an off day? If you mean I had to operate a 4 hour operation on the cartilage of a patients knee then yes it was on off day.... But Ican liv with him having he codex but why trash people he doesn't know when he doesn't post anything better than them? Sorry though i didn't mean to Start an argument and will happily apologize to everyone involved.

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    17. @JayDee: Mate, my point is to simply state that they are completely incorrect. I put this out there for chaos players as so they don't get excited for the wrong reasons. Quite fankly I don't bloody care what your opinon of my post is. It isn't meant to be accepted or rejected, it is mean't to be a fair warning.

      So I'll give you one fact about the new dex to appease the great JayDee with out revealing too much. There are no "legions" to choose from as is being said. Do you believe that? Would you believe anything I post? Well get used to the idea because it is the complete opposite of what the rumors say, but it is true as true can be.

      I think you need to quit badgering the ones who are actually here to guide you proper.

      Grant

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    18. I think this part of the conversation has run its course. Lets move on.

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  20. you have the codex wow whos blessed by the dark gods then (or just BSing)

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  21. Chaos needs it we barley hold our own agienst the upgraded loyalist armes

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  22. If we look back at history it is easy to see what could happen to Eldar... Complete reorganization of the codice meaning some options get nerfed, dropped, or become so retarded in price that no one fields them. I do think it will be Tau versus space marines though because Tau will benifet the best with the new rapid fire rules

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  23. Whats funny is this rumor is so stupid we have to speculate :) If anything i would believe DA were being swapped, but CSM no, the rumor mills have aligned and this is what they have revealed.. Codex CSM as first big 6ed. BUt instead we swap them with...eldar? I think there are more tau rumors then them. TROLL I say!!!!

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  24. What you have to remember is that what hastings and DrBored have said are both RUMOURS. Sure, Hastings has credibility, BUT: DA vs CSM are not set in stone, it -could- be two other armies (1.5ish as DA are the choc-mint flavour of marines) that need an update.

    I'll admit that DA are getting attention, although a catalogue...erm, White Dwarf spine image, plus a paint set don't really count as proof.

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    1. Why would someone state rumors if they aren't true? I know people do it, and it is complete rubbish. Furthurmore, why would people believe any rumor that starts with "I think" it is just rediculous. Personally I hate when rumor mongers waste my time. Post rumors if you know, and only then. Only give facts, and appreciate facts in return.

      Also, if I have to read anything about "a birdy" or "dose of salt" again I think I'm going to blow my bloody head off. Those phrases as so annoyingly overused.

      Cheers, Grant

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  25. It would be sooooo funny to watch the bitchin' if it came out to be BT & Tau! Of course it's not Tau, cause they always get shated on!

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