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Dark Angels with Mortis Dreadnoughts and More Rumors

This morning we get to wake up to some Dark Angel bits. Now these are saying that Chaos Marines is next, but that Dark Angels will be sometime in the fall. I suppose that would make Chaos coming very soon.

Please remember that the following are rumors, and need to be taken with a good unhealthy amount of salt.

via MarikLaw
I don't post rumours very often as I can't trust half the stuff I hear, but I believe this was worth noting after I saw some of the recent BoLS rumours.

Please take these rumours with a grain of salt, never met the guy who told me this stuff before in my life but he seemed to be pretty confident about what he saw (or heard). I work in a gaming store so I tend to hear rumours all over the place, bought a 50/50 chance that any of them are ever true.

- Dark Angels will NOT be released prior to 6th Edition. Expect them after Chaos Legions, sometime this Fall (apparently Chaos Legions is being released shortly after or in tandem with 6th Edition). I believe the credibility of this (at least as far as the Dark Angels go) is pretty good, especially if we speculate on when the White Dwarf spine image of the Dark Angel is going to finish.

- Company Masters in Terminator armour will apparently be able to take a single Deathwing Terminator squad as Troops and a Company Master riding a bike will be able to take a single Ravenwing Attack squadron as Troops. Belial will let you take any number of Deathwing Terminator squads as Troops and Sammael will allow you to take any number of Ravenwing Attack squadrons as Troops. I'd rather see both units as Troops choices right off the bat, but if the recent Chaos Legions rumours are true than this seems all too likely to happen as well.

- Dark Angels will have Mortis Dreadnoughts as Heavy Support choices. Sounds like wishlisting to me, but would be nice if it was true.

- Person seemed to confirm some of the other rumours that have been floating around about Chaplains, nothing new or interesting to report from that though.

- Cypher will NOT be in the Dark Angels book, but will instead appear in the Chaos Legions book.

- Some sort of new Predator that has a plasma weapon as its main armament. Sounds like wishlisting again, but could still be cool if true.

- He also seemed to confirm that the Dark Angels would have an affinity for plasma weapons and that they would be slightly better than in other Marine books, but wouldn't say how. Sounds like rumour rehashing, but if not it could confirm some of the other rumours that have been floating around.

Again, please take with a helping of salt.

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  1. Meh, Dark Angels rumours... Making plasma weapons better than other marines? Sounds like BS, but hey! I don't play DA...
    Although I like the idea that Cypher will (re)appear in the Chaos codex, a fair bit of this sounds like wishlisting. Chaos having a tandem release with 6th ed? They won't sell as much of each as opposed to two separate releases...

    1. Well, pretty much everyone needs the new core rulebook anyway. I really don't see a problem with both releasing at the same time. It will give them huge profits from chaos players, and then on top every other codex player will get the rulebook. Seems win-win to me.

    2. Chaos players won't have enough money to buy all of the other limited edition stuff. I agree it won't make much difference, but some Chaos players might get annoyed.

  2. Some of it is repeating old rumours so my salt intake isn't fatal______________________oops! Spoke too soon!

    Could plasma weapons being better be a 6th Edition thing? Just thinking out loud.

  3. bah.... :P

    didn´t the other rumor claim force-org will be gone in 6th? so whats the point of puttinh mortis dreads in HS slot???

    to me this is just an attempt of people tyring to make rumours fit for all possible releas points
    not buying it

    1. My guess (not a rumour) is that it will be like the following:
      Up to 25% can be HQs.
      25-50% must be troops.
      Up to 25% elites.
      Up to 25% Fast Attack.
      Up to 25% Heavy Support.
      This is based off rumours and the fantasy style army organisation. Purely guesswork, but even if only the troops bit is true, I will not like it.

    2. If it's anything like the old % then it'll be:

      HQ: up to 50%
      Elites: up to 25%
      Troops: min 25%
      Fast: up to 25%
      Heavy: up to 25%

      The 2nd ed books (Eldar, Wolves & Ultras) had:

      Characters: up to 50%
      Troops: 25%+
      Support: up to 50%

      At a guess Support would be split into Heavy Support and Fast Attack to accommodate the more contemporary books.

      This FOC to % change doesn't worry me unduly tbh - most of my lists will require small tweaks rather than complete overhauls.

      I'm less excited about the prospect of the introduction of randomness: rolling for psy-powers? Leave that to Fantasy. Which appears to be selling poorly worldwide since it's release.

    3. I highly doubt a move to percentage-based FOC, as that would be disgustingly exploitable by armies with excellent Troops units like SW and GK. Coteaz and 19 Razorback squads at 2000 pts? Have fun with that...

    4. Well, if Grant supposedly has the CSM codex, and its fr 6th, he can confirm or deny what the FoC would like like...

    5. prob. more likely minimum 25% troops and the rest max. 50%

      and we will prob. still have the limitation of 3 max. of each unit

      we just have to wait and see how the final ruleing will be and how much will be changed via FAQs in the dexes

      but i still don´t like this change caus you have to spend more time on list makeing

    6. Wouldnt that obselete nearly EVERY codex that has the page explaining the FOC chart? doesnt make sense for them to add it to necrons if the codex was made with 6ed in mind...

  4. I rate this at 8/10 on the bs meter

  5. the mortis dreadnought is already available through forge world and it is chapter approved... so we already have that

  6. Autocannon dreads are really easy to make with the Planetstrike terrain kit. I'm almost done painting mine for my Deathwing dreads.

  7. Plasma Predators (and, arguably, Mortis Dreads) are Forgeworld stuff, if I remember correctly GW stated that they would mostly refrain from infringing on FW's prowling grounds. Propably wishlisting, yeah.
    Cypher not being in the book and plasma being more attractive to DA makes sense, but both of those are no-brainers, anyway.
    Release date shenanigans are the most interesting out of the whole bunch, I'm kinda hoping this one is right.

  8. So after a week of CSM rumors we get DA....? I can't wait in a few years when we can look back and laugh about how off we were on our predictions and rumors...

    1. wasn´t so long that people claimed summer of flyers and squats + xenons in Tau dex

  9. I'm glad I don't Play space marines this sounds bad. The dark angels are supposed to have the best terminators and an army of fast land raiders and bikes with this it will become like the rumored chaos release where you have to take so and so SC to get a themed army. Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad...... Bad bad and bad

    1. Dark Angels don't have the best terminators. They have more. And not even that much more. They've never had fast Land Raiders. These rumors would actually make it easier to build a themed army without SC's, not harder.

  10. Mortis-pattern dreadnoughts have lost a lot of their exclusivity over the last couple of years since I can't recall a SM codex of recent publication that *doesn't* allow you to take dual-twinlinked autocannon or missile launchers (double-lascannons I think are exclusive).
    I'm probably wrong on the above but I do appreciate the possibility of official models with left-handed guns you don't need a Forge World account for.