Between all both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k, it seems like Empire might just be the next big release. With a possible army book on its way, it is time to take a look at a compilation of rumors out there and see just what might be next.

Please remember that these are rumors, and to take with the standard amount of salt. I know there are sources listed in here that have been largely dismissed by the community. However, Harry still has them up on the current rumor listings, so I am not going to edit them out.

Thanks to Harry for putting together this compilation;
Rumours about the Timescale:
There are rumours of Empire in 2012 (I had them in June but also in Mar/April with a BIG "?")

The next most complete project was empire. The book was done, all of the box art for new minis was done so it's imminent.(Darnock via birdy)

There are rumours that some bits will arrive before the army book (as with VC) (Harry, Mirabeau, malladin.ben)

The rumour is the War altar kit arrives with a couple of characters before the rest. (Harry. malladin.ben

Rumours about the Games developers:
There is a rumour that Jervis and Jeremy Vetock are up to their bushy eyebrows and wire rimmed spectacles in this one. (Harry)

Rumours about the army:
Ulric is back on the menu.

Teutogen Guard are in. (ghost21)

Religion / the gods are more prominent. (Harry, ghost21, Mirbeau)

Theres also a sphere of influence so Sigmarites will not be affected by Priests of Ulric and Ulricans wont be affected by sigmaric priests...etc. Different gods priests have different abilities. Ulric are ‘frothing loonies’ and Morr focus on undead. Priests can impact on a units abilities when they join them. (ghost21).

There is a new focus on Morr. Priests of Morr, Knights of Morr, Garden of Morr, etc.

Rumours about models:
Empire will get 4 plastic kits (Darnock via birdy) 5 plastic kits (Harry) and some plastic one piece characters as well as some old models being redone in finecast.

Rumours of Characters/Lords/Heroes
There are rumours that more named Elector counts will be availaible.

Marius Leitdorf will be re-released in Finecast.

Boris Todbringer has been 'hinted' (Mirbeau)

Female sorceress/battle Wizard has been done. (Eldargal) (I assume a one piece plastic)

There is also a rumour about a priestess of Myrmidia (ghost21)

I heard something about a mounted Wizard.

I heard something about an engineer (possibly also mounted?)

Rumours of Karl Franz OR Lord/Hero on Griffon.
There are rumours of a plastic Lord/Hero on a Griffon that could 'pass' as Karl Franz. (Harry)

There is a rumour that it IS Karl Franz. (which is an interesting development as this is the first time we have seen a special, named character as a plastic kit).

“The new plastic Empire hero on griffon is also supposed to be very nice” (hastings)

Griffin, which to be honest is a bit of a let down. It's big, Manticore sized, and looks almost like an update of the Deathclaw mini only a bit more static, oddly it was painted a deep ruddy brown. (Darnock via birdy)

Rumours of a plastic War Altar (and something new?)
There are rumours of a dual plastic kit which makes a War Altar and something else. (Harry, hastings, ghost21, malladin.ben)

It is rumoured that the War Altar can be customised to make Sigmar, Ulric or Morr. (ghost21)

There is a rumour that it makes a War Altar and a “College of Magic wizardlordmobile”. (NatTreehouse, Harry)

A war altar combo kit with a wizardy casting platform thing which had lots of globes almost like a celestial model. (Darnock via birdy)

Rumours of new Warrior priests:
There are rumors of new warrior priests for Sigmar, Ulric, and Morr. (ghost21, malladin.ben)

There is a rumours of Warrior priest kit like the wizards kit.

These may be sculpts done for the plastic War Altar. (Rather than an additional kit or individual sculpts)

The Ulricians may just be finecast versions of the excellent ones from the storm of Chaos. (ghost21)

There is also a rumour about a priestess of Myrmidia (ghost21)

Rumours of Demi-Griffon knights.
There are rumours of Demi-Griffon knights. (Eldargal and others )

Rumours of Inner Circle knights:
There is a rumour of a new box of inner circle knights with lots of options for different orders.(ghost21)

This is the reason for no new knights. (ghost21)

There is a rumour that the Inner Circle Knights and Demi-griffon knights are the same dual kit.

Rumours of new Knights:
No new knights. (hastings)

Rumour of the sprue re-cut for the knights. (ghost21)

Rumour of individual Knightly Orders rather than redone generic set. (eldargal)

Rumour of new Knights of Morr. (Mirbeau and others )

Rumour of more packs like the blazing sun bits pack to customize the existing knights. (ghost21)

Rumours of a Nuln Siege Cannon:
Rumours of a BIG cannon. (Darnock via a birdy, ghost21)

Massive cannon used to defend the walls of Nuln. (Darnock via birdy)

The cannon is big … as big as the ogres …. Mock up had “Nuln” plastered on the front. (ghost21)

This was rumoured as part of the duel war alter kit. (Darnock via a birdy)

This has been poo pooed by others (hastings, NatTreehouse)

There are rumours of some things back from 4th edition: (ghost21)

These are the options:
(Note: 'Options'. No way we get ALL of this. This is just a list of what has been left behind)
- Individual Knightly Orders
- Reiksguard (foot)
- Kislev Horse Archers
- Kislev Winged Lancers
- Ogres
- Dwarfs
- Halflings (and Halfling Hot Pot)
- War Wagon
- and various named characters.

Rumours of Halflings (specifically):
There are rumours of a return of halflings. (eldargal, Harry, heihei)
[B]Rumours of the War Wagon (specifically)
There is a rumour the War Wagon is back in the book with a combat, shooty or mixed option


  1. Cool stuff. I especially like the idea of a Warrior Priest 'kit' and the giant cannon!

  2. why still use ghost 21 i know he may still be on the rumor list but he admitted to being a troll and so should not be trusted. He even said that exodite dragon riders would be in the next eldar codex, what a load of rubbish the exodites will not get into a specifically craftworld eldar codex unless they are in the dark eldar one too, which they are not, he is obviously a fake and his admitance just reinforces this. To use him is naive and unwise and taints what is one of the best rumors sites on the net.

    1. agree
      saidly he is not the only rumor-troll
      and people tend to belive what they want to and spread it on the web

    2. I disagree anon. First off, I do not alter peoples rumors, edit or change what they figure is valid. Harry has a good record, he had updated this compilation near the beginning of the month, and did not remove the rumors with Ghost 21's name on it. I have not and will not question why, since he has more information than myself regarding these rumors.

      Having his name mixed into a rumor set is not naive, nor unwise. Changing a well known sources post simply because of internet drama is simply rude, and I will not do it.

    3. I agreed with the anons till I read Natfka's reply which is right, at the end of the day if you think Ghost21 is unreliable just do not believe what you read or add appropriate salt.

      Natfka you do a truly amazing job I have gathered all my rumour cravings from this site for a long time. Truly amazing you have created a area where we can read and digest rumours without backlash and drama they sadly have surrounding much of them.

      Feel like I have gone off topic but hey!

    4. Well look at it this least everything ghost21 said about the empire WILL NOT be happening so we can weed that out since he was a fake.

    5. Most of the stuff from ghost21 was either corroborated by others or was just an extension of something corroborated by others.

    6. Personally, I beleive Harry is a reasonably good source. My opinion is that he left those rumors up from ghost21 for a reason, (possibly he knows something we don't).

      Even if you think ghost21 made everything up, its quite possible that Harry left them up because some of those guesses might just be correct.

      Ghost's rumors in this post could be 100% wrong. However, even a blind squirrel in the dead of winter will find a nut once in a while. So you just never know.

    7. Thud!

      Blind squirrel runs into a tree. The resulting vibrations from the impact shudder up the tree and cause the nuts to fall.


      Sorry, I just couldn't resist. But seriously everyone should back off. All rumours are...well....RUMOURS. Some prove true, some prove false, some were true at the time but those in charge scrap the idea.

      Rumour has it that Games Workshop staff even put out rumours to see whether us lot give it a YEY! or MEH! They could be reading this right....what was that?


      Oh no, not again.......

    8. The blind squirrel saying I have had with me for for almost two decades now. A baseball coach of mine used it a lot.

    9. I'd never heard it before, or at least not in those words.

      "Fire enough bullets and hope one of them hits", from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is the closest.

    10. That movie was underrated but epicly cool!

  3. This better not delay the necron 2nd wave...Or there will be blood!

  4. I hate u GW first u release lotr then my twc now this !?! Have u declared ur orwn crusade against my wallet

  5. i just hope the rumours for the Kislev winged lancers are true. Hussars are the best!

  6. Note that A LOT of these rumours have just Ghost21 as the source, and he's turned out to be a phony on Warseers forums, providing made up info on a lot of 40k rumours (tau+BT at least) so I wouldn't trust anything he says.


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