It was rumored back a few weeks ago that Forgeworld would go mainstream, and while we have little evidence yet that it is going to, we are receiving 6th edition updates for forgeworld rules and updates. The rumor spoke of Games Workshop doing an FAQ that included Forgeworld models, but its hard to see GW doing an update on the FAQ when one is being written. So Perhaps the rumored end of summer GW rulebook FAQ will include rules that mainstream Forgeworld products in some way.


In the meantime, we have a set of updates from Forgeworld that include updated rules for 6th edition, and here are the links......

Land Raider Proteus
Deimos Predator Executioner
Spartan Assault Tank
Space Marine Rapier
Chaos Decimator
Imperial Guard Rapier
Imperial Guard Heavy Artillery Carriages

Vehicle Updates
Psyker Updates
Apocalypse Updates
Allies Updates

40 Comments:

  1. I reckon there will be no such statement and the rumoured faqs are in fact the ones recently published.

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  2. I need them to re-release the Tantulas rules. Otherwise, I have a really cool looking Raider. Should've bought the new IA book when I ordered the Tantulas.

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    1. They FAQ'd the Tantalus somewhat already. 4 Hull points.

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    2. I was talking about the full rules, like what codex optional upgrades and such. I saw the 4 HP, that made me happy.

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  3. I'm confused how this 'mainstreaming' has to be a thing? I get that a lot of TOs don't allow Forgeworld stuff, but everything that is meant for use in regular 40k play is tagged '40k approved' in the FW books. They're already supposed to be 'legal' in regular 40k play, just supplemental books, no?

    I know my FLGS allows FW stuff in its tournaments already, at least.

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    1. In my group theres only one person (besides myself) that is willing to play against FW, even if only one model. Also none of the shops in my area allow FW.
      Granted, having GW state that FW is legal isn't going to change my friends willingness to play against them, but maybe seeing them at the shops will.

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  4. I'm not into tourneys at the moment, that might change soon. Our group is mostly pro FW. I only have one friend that is anti FW, but he isn't against their better quality models that are in a Dex, like Chaos Dreads.

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  5. Until GW officially issues something, I'm happy to ignore and disallow FW. They have balance issues worse than even GW books, the rules are not widely available which leads to shenanigans, and they are priced so high that it gives undue advantage to those players can afford them against those who can't in what is already a too expensive hobby. They aren't needed and if people are just panicking about flyer defense, just wait until GW nerfs fliers with FAQs and new products in a few months (after flier wave sales have died down).

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    1. - Balance issues? Sure but not worse than GW by any stretch. I'd love to see what FW brought out that was flat out better than anything GW has done.

      - Availability? The guys that put rules up for free online? Lol. Also many stores actually carry the books themselves if not the models. If YOUR store doesn't then I guess you don't need to feel guilty about downloading the pdf. It's not like every player owns every single codex anyway.

      - Prices don't really play a role since there's huge gaps in cost between armies already. On top of that most FW rules don't require FW models (some GW rules do though). The price per point is also largely similar.

      - They aren't needed. Pretty lame point you have to admit since nothing in the game is NEEDED.

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    2. I agree whole hartedly with Atrotos. Expect I am gonna go one step further, FORGE WORLD MODELS AND RULES ARE ALREADY LEAGAL!!!!! Dont beleive me just look at any data sheet or book starting with IA9 and you will see that it clearly state for use with WH40K AND has the FW 40K seal similar to the old almost never used GW chapter approved. So I beleive anybody who thinks they can state that forge world rules or rules from any other source not in a codex has to take a look around at reread whats being written. BTW Sisters of Battle just have a white dwarf codex and I should not try and go find that copy of white dwarf just to play against them what maybe once or twice in my life...

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    3. Not all of the rules are freely available and many guys at shops I've seen don't bring their Imperial Armor books with them. Given that most stores have open copies of regular codexes for cross referencing and even then people get their points/stats wrong I'm terribly thrilled with someone telling me the stats of their FW models in a $70 book that's not nearby.

      I have the Forgeworld biker warboss and not everyone is cool with a T6 power klaw wielding model who strikes at I4 on the charge.

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    4. FW has some really cool stuff I wouldn't mind playing against it. However you should have a copy of the full rules for said model when you show up for a game.

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    5. I think it's reasonable to insist if someone wishes to use forge world items they need to bring in a copy of the rules.

      be it a print out, a book or what

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    6. i completely agree with these guys, why own a model to game with if you don't have it's rules?? I run a GW hobby centre and anyone that wants to use FW is totally fine as long as they have the appropriate book/rules sheet and their opponent is cool with it.I wouldn't go for a game without my codex and expect to blag my way through a game however.

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  6. Something which may lend credit to this rumor: The "Storm Eagle Rockets" have a profile in the BRB, despite the Storm Eagle being FW. :-)

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    1. Storm eagle rockets are fired from manticores in the IG codex.

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  7. According to one of the guys in my gaming club, he can order forgeworld stuff through the in-store net point, and model/paint his FW stuff in store. My GW(Birmingham, uk) also stocks a number of IA books and they have never denied anyone using FW models in store

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  8. I want my FW stuff LEGAL! I dont want to ask for permission any moar! Is this soo wrong?!

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    1. I'm with you JayDee.
      Now, I haven't paid much attention to non Tau units from FW, but as far as Tau go I haven't seen anything that says "I win". Mostly it just adds a few new choices.

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    2. Except those Eldar Phantom Titans...I hate those!

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    3. It already is legal, you don't need permission. Go play.

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    4. Its not that easy. My circle of friends is totally ok with it. Most stramgers at my FLGS amd GW are fine. But there are some who refuse to play my DKoK out of the ignorance that FW makes stuff that can only compete in Apoc.

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    5. Don't play with dicks!

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    6. I try not to haha. But sometimes their just pick up games. Like I had guy walk up to me amd said if I would like to game. I told him yeah. As soon as I tell him my army he looks at me. Then walks to the back table and challenges another guy.

      :P

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  9. Until GW posts this is offical, I wish people would quit posting this. All this is doing is selling the cool aid and people start to gossip and then it sounds legit.

    Gw is not going to do this, the FW product is not easy to access by the general public (namely the youth they target for their game)(yes, even with a North American production site, it won't work), second the rules are not balanced and the points are just not right, there is zero playtest in FW stuff...GW has said long ago they would never put FW mainstream and I would be shocked for them to step away from that stance.

    Back in 5th, these same strings of rumors popped up, then finally died....all this is some people being homeful and having a bad case of mental masterbation.

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    1. There IS playtesting for FW. Trust me. Its just harder to do because of all the Special Rules and stuff they usually have. I also have been hearing rumors that FW will start making 6ed Friendly IA. So that they are VERY compatible with 6ed games. But this is probably common knowledge.

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    2. LOL! Yep, I didn't realize there was a Hatewagon for FW. As they say, opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one. (however,every now and then, you run into a real hemorrhoid...)

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  10. The only problems I have with using Forgeworld stuff is,

    1: Availability. In the states, it is extremely expensive to get any significant amount of forge world models. This leads to an unfair advantage that are able to do so. The rules are also not built into the more widely available codexes.

    2: Balance: The vast majority of units from forge world are either better then their equivalent in the corresponding codex or absolute garbage.

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    1. 1) The United States is probably the most internet connected nation on the planet. Just about anyone who is aware that Forge World exists can get to their website.

      2) Bullshit. The vast majority of units from Forge World are alternate sculpts of things in the other codices. The small number of new units FW makes are mostly existing tanks with alternate guns.

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    2. 1: Great. But 100% resin models cost a metric shit ton compared to GW's plastics.

      2: I play eldar. Hornet's anyone? Same point cost(20 dollars more expensive) as vypers, higher av, not open topped? What about corsairs with their 3 good units and falcons as Dedicated Transports? I have no problem people using forge world models with rules already available codexes. But thats it.

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    3. The only issue i have with forge world is availability yes we have the internet and can get to the site but it is all in British pounds and international shipping is a pain in the butt and wallet as for playing i have played against a fw army and it was not any different from any other 40k game i have played i don't mind playing against a fw army i just wish i could walk in get the models or atleast know what i am paying without busting out the currency converter

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    4. Welcome to the rest of the world! The non- US players have become well used to dealing with currency fluctuations and exchange rate price gouging for ages. As an example when $1 australian was worth 50 cents US, a box of firewarriors was $50 australian. A few years later when $1A = $1.04 US, the same box = $60. GW then blocked aussies from importing from europe. FW is now a good alternative to standard GW, and some models are wonderful alternate choices. As a Tau player, there's nothing there that doesn't make sense, and their XV88 models look superb. Locally, I've seen nothing but smiles and awe with FW products. Their efforts to support players are also most welcome, and an example to GW

      Hownowbrowntau

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  11. I like the Rapier Lascannon. I came across an old 2nd ed one and am now useing it in my guard as a filler. It's nice to have something of 50 points or less to fill in those last little bits of a list once you're done with the big stuff.

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  12. I don't see really the problem yes shipping is a little expensive, but other than that with the new price hike you pay a little bit more and you get the same product. Solution talk amongs your friends and make a big order together.

    A few weeks ago GW posted on their page how you can incorporate forgeworld into 6th and they posted the forgeworld link that lead to the updated experimental rules.

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    1. Yeah, that's the way to go, we usually go in together to get the free shipping.

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    2. If you are buying independent characters and such, then yeah, the price is relatively the same cost as the new finecast models. However, larger models, especially tank equivalents, are often 15-30 dollars more expensive then their codex counterparts.

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  13. I'm not sure how FW can GET anymore offical.
    I'm reasonably new to the game, but Games workshop OWNS forgeworld, forgeworld has a lisence and legal permission to add stuff, other material occasionally referances forgeworld units. beyond GW eaither issueing a heavy handed order that from now all all TOs MUST accept forge world units or simply folding forge world into games work shop and making there no differance between the two

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  14. I'd be very surprised if Aeronautica at least didn't become official. GW have been touting it for a while, and when it was profiled on the website, they showed a picture of a page (somewhat pointedly) which shows the official 40k stamp.

    I reckon we're going to see an announcement in next month's White Dwarf, if there will be one at all.

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