With the announcement of Forgeworld releasing a Book 1 of the Horus Heresy this fall, it was nice to get a glimpse at what is on the horizon. Multiple books are scheduled, as many as 8, with the first book featuring the Luna Wolves and Dark Angels and expected for an October Release.


Please remember that these are rumors.

via a Faeit 212 "must remain anonymous source"
I was talking to                        about it and they said that it would be several books not one (one said 6+ another said, "yeah, 8"), the first of which begins after "A Galaxy in Flames" in terms of Time-Line, so there will not be rules for the Legions before the heresy (i.e. Loyalist Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor's Children).


Each book will focus on a specific thread of the campaign toward terra, culminating in a final book which will be the battle for terra itself.


Books will contain expanded fluff for the 2-3 Legions contained within and campaign rules for playing out a particular series of battles with "benchmark" missions that are historic.  Think the Badab war campaign.


It is being worked on congruently with Imperial Armour and will not delay or impact the IA series.


There will be new rules for the Legion standard, and will not use "Legion Tactics" (ala Chapter Tactics) variation based on special character, but will instead be edited in some way based on simply nominating the Legion you're using.


The current forecast for models will be upgrade packages -- specifically shoulder pads for the various legions and special characters.  These special characters will all be unique and new, and not those from the Black Library series. 


Primarchs will be featured and will have models, but are apocalypse only.


The first book is expected for October and will feature Luna Wolves and Dark Angels in terms of fluff and models, but no word on what campaign it will involve.

65 Comments:

  1. I doubt I'll play another marine faction (hoping for custodes or mechanicum) but I'll get the primarch models just to paint them.

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  2. Ok good this wont interfere with my Necron IA...

    Man the Battle for Terra is really cool story wise. But its gonna be last :( for gameplay.

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  3. What are the bets that Raven Guard will be last? Or will still receive less support than others? :(

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    1. I think Imperial Fists will be last Rogal-Dorn has that whole defense of Terra and finding the Emperor near death thing.

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    2. Or Custodes. But they aremt a legion. And they rarely leave terra.

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    3. ?? Raven Guard are already supported! not that there is as much as some but Way more than others. They have doors, decals and a conversion kit and special character. Non of there markings have changed since the HH and the fluff even supports them having corvus armour

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  4. Primarchs apocalypse only?

    Good! They certainly come across 'apocalyptic' in the Black Library books. Keeps things fair for the alien players out there. Might work out at 1 Primarch = 20 titans, but hey....it's apocalypse!

    Can't wait to see them!

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    1. Don't know about 20 titans, but I can see Primarchs being somewhere between 750-1500 points.

      Just wondering if, for the Battle of Tera, we might even see an Emperor model. 2000 or better? O.o

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    2. Im hoping for a Mastery Level of 100. He knows all pyschic powers including the most powerful one!

      HomeBrew

      "The Emperor uses his Psychic might like a boss. Make up any rule you want for the rest of the turn. If this means you choose for your opponent to remove all his models as casualties or some other exotic method, your opponrnt MUST accept."

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    3. Or "Final Strike - Roll a dice. On the roll of 1-5 Emperor kills Horus instantly. On the roll of a 6 you roll again." :)

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  5. Fw is doing the primarchs? Then I can't wait... I would love to have a fulgrim model. And a emperors childern models...

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  6. Can't wait I've been waiting for this for years

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  7. I have some doubts when it comes to rules, but then again, FW was never exactly known for their balanced rulesets but for their gorgeous minis.

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    1. Norrikan having doubts? Whaaaaaat? :)

      Jk

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    2. Ha, yes, I may be something of a doubtful old whiner. In my defense, I am actually quite excited for all the potential minis this might bring us.
      Not doubting everything, see? ;)

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    3. I have some doubts when it comes to rules, but then again, FW was never exactly known for their balanced rulesets but for their gorgeous minis that cost 9001 times what they cost to produce.

      Fixed that for ya...$650 primarch models anyone?

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  8. Bets are on Blight fucking up the Hours Heresy fluff with his hamfisted hack writing

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  9. So exciting! I'll be buying all the books and Primarchs. This will also be a great way to expand my PH Thousand Sons.

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    1. Cannot wait for them to turn heir attention to the thousand sons, space wolves and prospero! I want my pre dreadnought bjorn!

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    2. Not a 100% sure on this, but... Isn't Bjorn the oldest 'living' Space Marine? Or at least, the oldest named in any of the fluff? (This, ofcourse, ignoring the Primarchs out there lost in the Galaxy/Warp/Beer keg).

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    3. Dreadnaughts are not living. Dante is the oldest living SM, and has been in his fluff since 2nd edition?

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  10. "It is being worked on congruently with Imperial Armour and will not delay or impact the IA series."

    Only redeeming part of this news,hopefully the next few years of forge world releases wont just be bland boring space marines.

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    1. Outside of Badab, every IA has released non SM models...

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    2. They've also all contained an Imperial army, at least all I remember, to the result of FW's Imperial models outnumbering their non-Imperial 3 to 1. This sounds to me like they were trying to come up with a way to justify pumping out more Imperium only without being obvious about it.

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    3. As is the nature of the "history" of 40k and the overall theme, it's Imperium vs. Everyone else.

      Whether that's Imperium vs. Chaos, or Imperium vs. Xenos, it's rarely "Chaos vs. Xenos" or inter-Xenos fighting.

      As such, all of the climactic battles that IA focuses on are of course going to be Imperium at its core because they're the main protagonists.

      In AI 11, Eldar received more models than both the Cadian and Space Wolves featured in that book combined.

      In Anpheleon, we saw a huge influx of Tyranids that were only rivaled in models because of Death Korp being used, who are really just alternate casts of standard guard (yes I know their list is different, but that's from 3e and now people use it with the current guard list).

      Overall, I just respectfully disagree with the OP saying that it's bland and boring Space Marines, because pre-badab all we saw were upgrade kits for red scorpions and the massive volumes were for Guard, Tyranids,Chaos/Renegades and then with AI 11 Eldar.

      9/10 gave a ton of space marine armor variants, but really they were just a precursor to this project it seems.

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  11. Lol lol lol :D
    Its like so Not to the fluff
    DAs came to Late to the Battle they shouldnt Even be in this. Also ist was only 2 Major battles Before they came to Terra... None had suspektes smth like this possible. So how can it be 6 Books???
    Lol

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    1. There are a lot of HH books (yes, two DA only even) and they are still not on terra. So there is enough to cover.

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    2. While the warmaster was mustering his forces after istvaan 3, he tried to reclaim siege weapons from a forgeworld commissioned decades earlier. There his Sons of Horus fought the Dark Angels.

      the dark Angela win and then are conned into giving the weapons to te iron warriors to prevent them falling into Horus' hands

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    3. Yeah they were "conned" ie: Johnson gave it to them cuz he was a heretic. Not Luther! :)

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    4. Well in the most recent story the lion he was pissed that perturabo deceived him and took the siege engines and gave them to horus who then used them against the emperor's forces
      for the lion!!!!

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    5. What story did you read?

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  12. Still trying to push Apoc down my throat eh? Now they have a primarch on a stick dangling in my face. Kinky. Think I'll stick with one set of rules. Thanks but no thanks. Oh, but I will own a Primarch model...;)

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    1. apoc rules aren't that big a change

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  13. Erm, have you seen the Horus heresy novel series? There's a lot of shit going on at once. Sons of Horus doing stuff simultaneously with da doing their own thing

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  14. EIGHT BOOKS? What the hell? I do not have money for three books, let alone EIGHT! Otherwise, awesome!

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    1. I dont think they are going to be released all at once. In fact I would not be surprised to see that it takes us a several years to get through them.

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    2. My FLgS lets certain well known customers and regulars to "borrow" the IA books as long as need be until someone else requests them. This is a very nice policy and will be even better for these books.

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  15. Dark Angels and Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus are an odd choice.. Dark Angels and Night Lords I could certainly see, as they have a long campaign involving both primarchs fighting over systems..

    Sadly I think Imperial Fists will be last then, if the final is Seige of Terra, so I will be waiting for awhile for those.. :(

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  16. I must be the only gamer in the room that doesnt care about this? I like the fluff and all, but with the books being expensive forgeworld books to go with expensive forgeworld miniatures, this seems like a niche market.

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    1. Im not to thrilled but i like the idea. I play no sm legion but the idea of Primarchs is very cool. Id want to see the stats for the Emperor for sure!

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  17. No massively interested in the HH, but definitely looking forward to seeing what FW produces. As long as there's a possibility of Mechanicus minis I shall watch for news like a hawk.

    I hope that one day they'll get round to fleshing out the Age of Apostasy...

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    1. And perhaps then we'll actually get new Sisters of Battle models.

      No, only joking.

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  18. Guess I'll have to patiently wait for all the poster-boy Legions to be done first, then finally there may be time and room for the Legions I want rules for :(

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  19. *fingers crossed for Thousand Sons*

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  20. Fingers crossed for receiving one day half as much attention for xenos like Eldar and Tau...

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    1. never happen because we arn't spacemarines lol

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    2. Tau:
      http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Tau

      An entire lot of variant battlesuits, super heavy and standard vehicles, flyers and even kroot.

      Eldar:
      http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar

      An entire range of Corsairs, a custom aspect warrior shrine, vehicles ranging from standard games to apocalypse, and even a titan.

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  21. Very much hoping to get a Horus figure to run as a fully upgraded chaos lord from the new csm dex!

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    1. Never, not while power mauls suck as much as they do!

      Now if Angron's Gorefather doesn't use the Apocalyptic Blast template against IG blob squads I will be whole-heartedly dissapointed. :D

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    2. I actually like power mauls. Especially on chaplains. 3 to 4 str 6 (or str 7 with furious charge) attacks is pretty good. I took out a dreadnought with lemartes in my 1st 6th Ed game.

      And the str 6 attacks can double out t3 hq's and a lot of those will only have 4+ saves anyways.

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  22. Pirate_Prince_NavarionJuly 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    I'm torn about this. The rules are a big no-no for me, Forgeworld books are just too expensive. Models... Well, there could be a few interesting things like (hopefully cheaper than Sammael) jetbikes... What I'm wondering about: A book with Luna Wolves, AFTER the Horus Heresy has started??? They were already renamed to Sons of Horus then... I would really love shoulder pads with the Luna Wolves heraldry. It was almost identically used by parts of the 13th company Space Wolves just with different colours, so I'm sure my secret Luna Wolves successor chapter could get away with it.:D

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  23. Wonder if there will be any mention of the two missing legions. Probably not, but I can hope.

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  24. Awesome, can't wait for a Sanguinius model.

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  25. Here's my Money.........*uhyes* That's gona be great!!

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  26. Rumour say no pre-heresy thousand sons. This makes me a sad panda!

    They are IMO the best legion, aesthetic look and feel. FW are making a big mistake if this is true!

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  27. Mostly I want to see what rules they think are appropriate for a single 40mm based figure that are balanced against a normal 1k-2k army.

    Not that they will be, of course, but it would be fun to play it that way once or twice. Leman Russ versus my entire Nid swarm!

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  28. Forgeworld commented on Facebook about this rumor and said that the majority was false.

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    1. A few months back Forgeworld also said the rumors of a Horus Heresy release was false.

      I don't know whether or not rumors pan out, but unless we are getting direct information, I would like to know which parts he was referring to that were false.

      I have more information about what is going on within 30 minutes.

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  29. I woudnt mind a roboute guilliman to put as a sm commander. As I've just started ultras finger and toes crossed he's 1st. Also does this mean we will see more pre-heresy armour?

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