Here are some details that have been sent to me about the next several months release schedule for Warhammer 40k. From the looks of things, August is an enormously full month, and if these pan out, September and October will be just as exciting.

We were given this exclusive set of information for Faeit 212. I am hopeful that for whatever reason the White Dwarf being pushed back does not mean that the release for August is going to be changing. With Chaos Marines just around the corner and Dark Angels on the very near horizon, this is the kind of schedule we dream about for our hobby.

An Exclusive for Faeit 212 (from the inbox)
A lot of stuff has been circulating recently and I really don't know where they're getting it from. I just wanted to sort of set some of it straight.

The next 4 major launches are 3 new flyers, Chaos Space Marines, the 6th edition starter set and Dark Angels.
 
The new flyers (1 of which being chaos) and the Chaos Space Marine book and initial waves are both done and in some cases even distributed to warehouses.

The current itinerary for release is New Flyers plus the Chaos book and half the models for August.

Then it's the other half of chaos plus the starter for September

Then it's Dark Angels and their ENTIRE new range in October.

It's a whole lot coming really fast and there's a little bit of resistance (from certain people) on the release of the flyers and chaos all at once.

That said, August's white dwarf has been pushed back for reasons I do not know. In the past, however, the only reason for White Dwarfs to be pushed back, however, have been last minute removal of content and articles, never additions.

This month had so much content potential that about 80% of it ended up on the editing room floor, so it wouldn't be difficult for them to fill a magazine back up if they were cutting chunks out of it.

As of Thursday morning though, August white dwarf hasn't been sent to the printers. The drop date on that is Friday.

74 Comments:

  1. looking forward to the chaos marines codex..

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  2. Wow! Thanks natfka, this is huge!
    Now I just hope one of the flyers is indeed, Tau. If only to prove that GW hasn't completely forgotten about them.
    That "Eldar already in the warehouse" rumor hurt since several rumors had the Tau codex first and we haven't heard squat (pun intended :-) ) about Tau yet.
    I'm oddly excited about the CSM release. Chaos being one of the armies I have the best record against, it doesn't Bode well for me short term. Long term though, I want a glimpse of what to look forward too.
    Thanks again natfka and to your sources too.
    Now to try to get some sleep...

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    1. Don't feel bad. I think tau is soon. When gw did all of those resin reprints of metal tau models our beloved commander farsight did not get one. That tells me he is getting a new resculpt in the near future. Maybe a new experimental suit!

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    2. Why would the Empire bring him back into the fold?

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    3. Same point as mike, the Farsight Enclave isn't part of The Greater Good, and has restricted resources, I'd say they could have the experimental stuff from the last Codex on a 0-1 to represent defectors from the main Empire.

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    4. Yeah I think the Tau have had what, 2 codexes since the Eldar last got one? Yeah I guess that does 'hurt' doesn't it...

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    5. Wtf?? The tau book is older then the Eldar book, go check the print times.

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    6. Seeing as Aun'shi himself was last seen going to the Enclaves it is possible that he, if any Aun, could bring Farsight (or his successor) back to the Empire's embrace.

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    7. Yes, give the Empire power of Necrons and some close combat specialists. For the Greater Good of course.

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    8. Maybe farsight is on a serect mission for the tau empire such as cleasning the orks and stuff.

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    9. Or hes touring the galaxy with Marneus Calgar :P.

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  3. WD is going to be late again.... sigh! don't know why i sub at times...

    Preys for a Space Wolves flyer :)

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    1. Haha guess you were right Natfka....this is big.

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  5. October Dark Angel month? Woot! :)

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  6. Thanks guys. On a side note I really wonder how gw decided that keeping everyone in suspense helps boost sales... Interest maybe, but sales? I like being able to budget, and this uncertainty has stopped me buying anything from chaos for more than a year!!

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    1. Because they don't want that you plan your purchases in advance. If you have, for example, 100 $ to spend each month they want those 100$ (or atleast a large part of it) every month instead of a month of no purchase and a next month of 200$.
      Not saying that this is good and I definitely am in the same boat as you but the people that visit rumour sites are in the minority and will plan their purchases anyway.

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    2. a large part of the rumor crack down is to show New Line Cinemar that they, GW, can keep The Hobbit range a secret.

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    3. I did buy a Predator and CSM Squad earlier in the year but that was before I heard the rumors.

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    4. I'm sort of confused why that would be much of an issue in the first place. The Hobbit has been out for something like half a century and it's not like they're going to add more characters to the book.

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    5. Here's the thing. There was an incident where an image was taken of an actress for the Hobbit in one of GW's offices and posted on the Internet. The infraction cost GW 50,000+ dollars in fines. Now, they're checking people's phones and not allowing tours into certain parts of their buildings any more. GW doesn't want to risk losing any more money or their contract for the Hobbit. You might say 'well that should just apply to Hobbit stuff then!' but the fact of the matter is that its easier to crack down on EVERYTHING than to let certain things slip and others stay locked.

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    6. Any link to the image? :P

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  7. Well I hope people buy the crap out of these two armies - if only to show GW that they don't have to wait 6 months between releases to stay profitable!

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  8. Not sure I believe this tbh as I know that wd is done 3 months in advance. The whole August wd is not printed yet is totally wrong trust me.

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    1. Agreed with this. There's no way in hell a company like GW has the infrastructure to print off several hundred thousand magazines and ship them out over the world in less than a week.

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    2. Agreed, there is no possible way the can print and ship in a week (and from previous WD editorial comments you can see that they are written months in advance of the release date).

      All these rumors from one source? If so I'd take everything with an entire salt-lick (which is too bad, as I'd really like to see some new DA).

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    3. Y'know what's nice about Magazines? They can be printed by the thousands in an hour and in multiple warehouses. Magazines aren't like plastic models that need molds and specific formulas. A magazine can be E-MAILED to a factory and printed that same day, ready to be shipped out by big trucks waiting at the end of that warehouse, and they can e-mail that template to dozens of warehouses around the world for different languages.

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    4. as a printer the WD can be printed and dispatched within 3 days.

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  9. I hope by entire new range of dark angels he means more than just a new termi box.

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    1. Im expecting new terminators, ravenwing, and troop squad at the least. This will replace the upgrade packs

      And any new units on the codex

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    2. Wow i sound like a spoiled bitch.

      What I mean is based on the last few marine chapters that is what I think gw will be doing

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    3. If I recall for plastics SW got their 10-man unit box and the SW terminator box, and then they got Njal, Canis, and Lukas for characters, and then TWC, fen wolves, and Arjac two and a half years later.

      BA got a DC box, the Sanguinary Guard box, and the Baal Predator, plus a bunch of characters, and then the Storm Raven and the all-in-one dread kit a year later.

      But as it says they want to drop all of the DA stuff at once, I would say that they would probably at least have the troop squad (possibly with extra upgrade bits for other units, like they did in SW) and then several new units. There's already a ravenwing bike squad so there's the potential that they can wait on those, and IIRC Deathwing terminators aren't really any different from normal ones except in colour so there's potential to wait there as well. I'd say to expect a new troop box and new units for now and see what happens.

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    4. I don't see new ravenwing bappening, as they already have a box. But I could definately see a new termie box and a power armoir box, probably along the lines of the GK one (5 man with lots of options). Hopefully there's some new toy(s) that we get as well. Maybe a couple new HQs or at the very least a few new sculpts...

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  10. Why would you release half CSM back to back. Seems like that's essentially the same as releasing it all at once, which might not be the best business strategy.

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    1. So they do not to fight 3rd parties who make figures of pictured units in a codex.

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    2. As Mike says it's to prevent 3rd parties making the models, as the copyrights arguably do not apply if someone makes something similar (but not the same) and calls it 'Battle Soldier Transport' instead of 'Rhino'. This is particularly true when GW does not have a released model to point at to say 'you copied this' and only has some drawings in a codex. They want all a codex's models (particularly NEW models) out asap now so you buy GW models instead of a 3rd parties. Thunderwolves is probably the best example and seems to be what prompted GW to release all the models for a new codex asap.

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    3. There's also this interesting phenomenon of time where my paycheck only comes in once every two weeks. You might think 'Well, that's just like getting both paychecks in the same month!' but alas, it is not.

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    4. But with the tervigons it went the other way, as they sold a lot more carnefixes for convertions. But that probably didn´t ad upp the losses for SW Thunderwolves.

      Why bother relesing the rules for something that takes two years to get the models for? It´s obvious that people isn´t going to sit around and wait.

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  11. This talk of new line cinema and their deadlock on rumors bugs me. Their will be no leaks because no one cares about that joke of a game

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    1. New Line Cinema fined GW 50,000 dollars for a single Internet leak of an actress in costume for the Hobbit. GW takes this very seriously, because a bigger leak means a massive fine and removal of the contract which I'm sure they've already spent a lot of money on building up to this point.

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    2. I care immensely about that "joke of a game". The way I see it, every dull 40k and boring Fantasy release takes me just a little bit closer to the big hit of the year: My Precious. I wants it!

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    3. Eh, I've read the Hobbit about seven times. My powers of divination says models for the Hobbit include dwarves, eagles, elves, men,goblins a dragon, 12 special dwarves, a half-ling, a bear-man and... a wizard. Who did it.

      Pretty sure that'll be it, barring a battle of five armies re-release or some scenery.

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  12. i hope they put all the units in the codex for the initial release so i dont have to make notes after reading the faqs

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  13. Wow, I am going to be poor for the next few months!

    I can see why the resistance, put out too much product and it can riptide the sales pulling profits from one to another. While great for us that purchase the product, the more selection (and with limited budgets usually) will be forced to buy what is our big interest instead of a "little here, then a little there..."

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  14. The whole lockdown being due to the Hobbit argument has been around for a while now and yes it does make sense. So where do most of the leaks come from now... early issues of WD or copies left lying around at the printers... delay WD and keep the rabbit in the bag for a little longer.

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    1. The most substantial leaks come from early White Dwarf. The leaks that come before that tend to be from friends of friends of dev team assistants and friends of playtesters, etc. This game of telephone (along with personal bias and speculation) is what makes rumors so inaccurate so many times.

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  15. Anyone else think that maybe the "Dragon" flyer might be shared by CSM & CD?

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    1. I have a feeling that there are actually going to be two different fliers. The 'dragon' flier is going to be a Chaos Daemon flier that'll be released in the flier wave, where the Chaos Space Marines will get their own flier upon their Codex release. I've heard the Chaos Marine flier is more akin to the Hellblade or Helltalon where the Chaos Daemon flier is more akin to a fiery plated dragon-like beast.

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  16. Shouldn't there be a WFB release in there for Warriors of Chaos? Rumors had them being released in Oct. and DA in Nov.

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    1. I would guess if these ones are correct then WoC would be in November.

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    2. Surprisingly there doesn't seem to be much in the way of WHFB rumours floating about. The next army seems to be a conflict of WoC and Dwarfs. Not that I don't mind 40k rumours, but it'd be nice to get something solid for WHFB

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  17. *Runs around in a circle praising the Emperor and El'Jonson*

    Made my morning. Dark Angels - bolters, bathrobes, and beyond!

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  18. GW's whole business mechanic is far to greedy and elitist. I remember seeing guys playinv 40k at my local comic shop back when I was 16. I thought it looked like the coolest game I had ever seen. Then I looked at the price for one tiny box of figures, and that stopped me there. That was when everything was a third of the cost it is now! Eventually they are going to price themselves out of business at the rate they're going. The sad thing is, if they made it more affordable their clinet base would grow exponentially, and existing players would buy more stuff from different ranges. Sales would also increase on paints and accessories, which they could keep at their current markup. Their profits would grow far beyond what they are now. Why limit yourself to one customer dropping 500 on 40k when you could have 10 customers dropping 100?

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    1. It also goes into the the mechanic that all retailers use, candy at checkout. The reason every store, even places like home depot, carry candy is because it is cheap to buy and has a high markup. Small sales add up just the same as large sales. They are limiting themselves to very few demographics with their current price range.

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    2. I dont find the raising costs of gaming products a very definitive one. Looking around at the simple costs of everything else, our models have not been all that bad.

      Easy examples, are Food, University Tuitions, Gas, healthcare and just about everything else we need and want.
      Of course wages lag behind and the cost of employment(to the employer)goes up.

      The issue of costs is not just a gaming one, and therefore demonizing Games Workshop alone as greedy and elitist doesnt make sense in my eyes.

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    3. Give this a read, it'll all make much more sense: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/06/editorial-gw-double-edged-sword-of.html

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    4. 50 bucks for 5 2" models made of plastic sounds totally reasonable.

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    5. If you stick a frog in a bowl of hot water it will jump out immediately. However if you stick the frog in cold water amd gradually raise the water temperature, the frog will not try to escape. By the time it notices the very very hot temperature the frog has already been burned severly or died. We are the frogs. And GW is the one turning up the heat to see gow much we will take unti wr just cant. At that point they fimd more frogs and start over.

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    6. I dunno... GW is the only company I've seen that has had price increases that large. SM tanks have gone up 40% in the last two years and even a lot of other things have gone up 20% or more. The land raider crusader/redeemer kit has gone up 60% since it came out in 2008. How many other companies have you seen do stuff like that?

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    7. Gas, Milk, Ground Beef, Insurance, Health costs, Attorney Fees, Taxes, Tuition Costs. But I think we went over that.

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  19. Makes sense but Iam still skeptical....

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  20. Also about time they do this for 40k. Man we were starving half the year to....

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  21. A few things.

    Economics wise, sometimes it's okay to reduce sales when you increase price because you in turn reduce total production costs.

    Also, in this industry molds degrade, so not producing as much and selling what you make for more is ideal.

    Lowering the price and in turn increasing revenue by selling more pieces, affects your overall returns because of degradation.

    On the topic of white dwarf, no magazine is printed months in advance for many, many reasons. Most of which is to account for last minute changes.

    Many magazines (white dwarf included) WRITE their articles way in advance for the majority of the content with only certain things done right before print.

    In the past, battle reports played on the 13th of the month would show up in the next month's issue. (also they'd play 3 games and pick their favorite, or stop a game halfway through because it wasn't epic enough... which is pretty close to forging the rolls, but at least they are playing them.

    My only issue with these rumors is that I've never heard of a white dwarf not sent to print before the 15th since 2002 when I entered this industry.

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  22. I understand the mechanic of selling less for more for prod costs and what not, but the drawback is less customers. Less customers would be beneficial if 40k were strictly a simple product. But it is a game for most of its client base and therefore requires participants in order to hold interest. If you lessen the number of players enough, those you have left will loose interest due to a lack participation. Over the last few months I've seen less and less players at my local game stores. Why would I spend money for game units if I have no one to play?

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    1. While I see what you're saying, the raised costs for models predominantly impact new players though, not existing ones.

      I have armies, for instance. Maybe I need 1 new unit or I want to change the special weapons for my army. Well, 1 tactical box + excess plasma guns from the sprues I used meltas for instantly give me 5+ plasma guys to augment my existing army, etc.

      Comparatively, to adapt to changes in rules or new codexes is so much cheaper than the initial cost of an army that you shouldn't really feel the impact of cost difference.

      If the player group is shrinking, that has more to do with the rules or even your local scene than it does with cost hikes.

      If GW tripled its prices tomorrow, I may boycott buying new things, but it doesn't mean I can't play with what I have.

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