Tonight we also have some Chaos Space Marine rumors just to pick you up after the big let down. These are good, and show off that we will be seeing apostles and warp smiths. Perhaps the set from Neil is correct, and we will see this codex Sept 1, even though the rumors below are guessing at October or November.

Please remember that these are rumors, and such are fickle things.

via 75hastings69 on Warseer
Daemons wave is indeed next, CSM is the next Codex (full release) maybe I should have made that clearer in my earlier post. CSM also get some kind of mechanical Centauroid weapon platform/unit, I'll try and recall all the CSM.
ive made a list of what models the CSM players can expext, note that i dont know if these will all come at once or in waves, some of these (or click fit varients of them) are in the starter box.

Note also that ill not be adding rules or updating this thread in anyway so that will be up to you guys.

I'm expecting the codex to hit late October or early November (depending on if the rumour that the wfb WoC army book isn't out till feb 2013 is true or not - I'm still expecting that book in October)

Upcoming models:-

Raptors (plastic 2 types)
Dread looks like an angry obliterater on roids!
Obliterators look good but not as good as the "mauler" CC version
Dragon flyer is ok
Two deamonic Centauroid cannon things a bit iffy
Warp smith
Some odd walker thing
New csm marines (could be recut with added bits? Either way I didn't recognise them as current ones - but then again my 40k fu is weak!)
Chosen very nice too

My understanding is the Obliterators are a new plastic kit that includes the CC mauler variant options. I would "imagine" that these maulers are designed to compete in just that kind of role.

AFAIK the current plastic termie lord kit remains.

I refuse to comment about finecrast -   (there are obviously characters too, and they're I'm finecast! - iirc new Kharn the betrayer is one of them)

via Erazmus_M_Wattle 
I can back Hastings up somewhat here. My moles in GW reported that there was a new close combat unit. Like cc obliterators. Both builds looked lovely. I've been informed that they are going to be two to a box. This reminds me if an older rumour that they'd go up to a squad size of six. It seems odd for two to a box with the current size of three.

The dark apostle is very nice.

As for the dread I've heard nothing.

Perhaps the roided up dread might be a model to represent a possessed dread. I can't imagine they'd invalidate regular dreads. Let's not forget Hastings stated he was only talking about models. No need to panic that our expensive forge-world dreads have been invalidated. I expect the more basic dreads with still be viable. 


  1. I may be mistaken but when he says 'daemonic centauroid cannon thingy' it really sounds like he's describing a defiler to me...

    1. I think you're right!

    2. except that he knows the difference between four legged things and n-legged gribblies (n>4)

  2. "It seems odd for two to a box with the current size of three."

    Necron jetbikes are 3 to a box with max size 5.

    1. Yes, seems more like a common GW Theme to pack units in such numbers that you either have not enough to build a squad or too much.

      Guess this will be a dual kit with the shooty/CC variants (and thank god because obliterators look like **** atm).
      Raptors sound like a dual kit too, with a "possessed" sprue containing the lightning claws, heads and mutated bitz.

    2. Same with thunderwolf cav, 3 to a box but squad size 1-5.

    3. Minimum Squad Size of TWC is 3, thats why they are boxes that way. The current min squad size of Oblits is 1. Not sure on the Eldar jet bike since i dont play them.

    4. Dude, go read the SW codex. Min is 1 for TWC, the norm is that people take them in groups of 3.

    5. I don't mind the ratio with TWC since the mount is also a character upgrade. Its cheaper to buy two boxes of TWC and convert to make the sixth your battle leader than it is to go on and buy the finecast lord.

  3. Sounds like hot dogs and buns issue dogs come in eight to a pack and buns ten to a pack lol

    1. That's some chow yun fat wisdom right there Haha. Looks like the old bits box will have a few additions.

    2. My Chaos has a first name, it's K-H-A-R-N!

  4. if you look in the new 40k rulebook there are some clear signs of a new plastic dreadnought

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