Its been a busy week with both the release of the new White Dwarf, and with some huge releases alongside Games Day UK. To top it off, it was another late night 40k night that lasted almost until the sun came up.

Presence of Faeit is my weekly editorial. I generally report during the week what is going on, and today is my day to comment on what exactly it is that I am thinking of.


Mechanized Lists
Lets start this week discussing MSU, Massed Infantry, and Armoured Companies. I am still trying all the extreme sides of list types to see where I fall. Everything from assault lists, to extreme shooting and every inch in-between. Why? because no matter how much you theorize, there is a way to push the limits of 6th edition in new directions and new ways. There are just that many options out there, and I for one love the way it works.

So last night I played the list in the picture. Yes, that was a single game army list. Grey Knights with allied Imperial Guard. It was so heavy mechanized, that I thought for sure it would show utter and complete failure on a new level, especially given the opponent.

The opposition forces on the other side of the table was another extreme list with more heavy weaponry than you will ever see on a tabletop. All of that combined with aegis defense lines, 4 company commanders for get back into the fights, it was a massively heavy list with guns and fodder ablaze.

He came in at a whooping 164 infantry models, and maxed out platoons heavy weapon teams. So to put it bluntly, he was getting a 2+ cover save every round, and then ordering his men back up into fight. They would then proceed to unleash a massive wave of heavy guns at my lines.

Two things I have to say about what I fielded. Number one, is that somehow it worked, and worked well. I was basically just saying ok, take your 2+ saves all day, I can live with that. Somehow, at the end of the show, against a list that theoretically should of been destroyed, I was able to pull off a 4-2 victory in a bases style game. He even went first.

Conclusion: A heavy armoured list does good in 6th. I do not yet know where that fine line is, between not enough tanks to work and too many, but putting 20 on the table does and did work well.

Points: Av12 is still strong. Passengers being stunned after disembarking (and not being able to fire) is harsh, but there are ways around that. Glancing hits on vehicles and still being able to run around is huge. Being able to get cover is very easy now, and seems to come into play a lot more in 6th than it did in 5th.

So yes, heavily mechanized lists are still going strong.

The Good, the Bad, the Ugly
The Good
Excellent QnA session today. I just want to say that I am still working on the compilation, and that will include many questions that were not answered during that session, but were handled after the event. I want to thank people for being on their best behavior(which is normal here on this site). So thank you for helping that go well, and hopefully if your questions were not answered during that session, then I hope they were part of the group that were answered via email to me.

A big thanks to our guest to woke up to go to Games Day UK, worked hard on his own stuff, and spent the extra time to come over and join us for a couple late night hours. Also I apologize to his wife, and thank her for his time.

The Bad
Please remember that this site is a No Drama zone, and I really do not have any tolerance for it. We had a little bit of that earlier today, and if I was not so exhausted from no sleep I would of been on it a little faster.
If you are new here and do not know what the hell I am talking about here is a link
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/09/punching-bags-and-commentary.html

The Ugly
Today during our QnA session we had one problem, and like normal, I submitted his log in/ ip address as spam. I really dislike doing this, as I feel it locks a person out and denies the possibility of some good ideas and input. We all lose out when this happens.

Chaos Space Marines
I am overly excited about this release, and of course will own the codex. Will I get back into the depths of Chaos Space Marines? I do not know for sure yet. I like the way everything feels, and the flexibility and variation of what the codex will bring. Above all else, I think the codex will be a more difficult to play than some of the past codices, which is nice. This is difficulty comes from the primary massive amount of options available and the no obvious "take and spam this unit to win" in the codex.

While I am going to hold my reviews and ideas on the codex for now, its looking like an extremely well put together codex, that will take some creativity and tactics to dominate the tabletop.

New Camera
Its here, and it does take amazingly better pictures and video than what I have been using. So I am trying hard to get it all together so that I can show off what it can do. Yes the pic at the top of the article is from that camera. A lot more to come.

21 Comments:

  1. Thats alot of tanks. Shame we couldnt all be as nice to the source. But thanks anyways Natfka and mysterious man!

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  2. Indeed. I very much appreciate what you guys do.

    ChosenofTzeentch

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  3. I feel silly now saying thank you as well, even though I want to.

    The leaked pages, the info from today, I am looking forward to the chaos codex even more than I was before. It seems like the codex will take more skill to play, and that is what's great about it.

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  4. Also I'm interested to hear how your Colossi fared against your opponent.
    ChosenofTzeentch

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    1. the Colossus is one of those hidden gems in 6th edition. In other words, they wrecked havoc on the enemy almost every time they fired.

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    2. I would imagine so denying him his precious 2+ saves must have been glorious.
      ChosenofTzeentch

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  5. i love that picture. it just scream this thought proccess, "oh crap, it looks like im running out of space for my tanks. I guess that means i need more tanks!"

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    1. The list had 20 pieces of armour, and 96 infantry models. so its not as unbalanced as it first appears.

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    2. well dammit that means you need more tanks!

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  6. Not sure If this has any relevance to any thing but there is no dreadnought model or hell brute model on the store ?

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    1. If I had to take a swing in the dark, it's because more stuff is coming in a few weeks. We still haven't seen the actual Hellbrute or Cultist kits, so we'll see here shortly :)

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    2. I feel that there really needs to be a new basic chaos space marine kit, the chosen and aspiring champion style looks like they are from a completely different army compared to the chaos space marines... i know they are chosen but they should at least resemble each other to some degree and they are miles apart...

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    3. Yeah the Dread has been removed to make room for the Hellbrute and they haven't released a Hellbrute model or Cultists yet because you can get them in dark vengeance and they want to sell as many of those as they can.

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  7. thanks for the update, keep up the good work!

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  8. You mentioned that CSM doesn't seem to be a spam list but the first thing that jumped out at me was spamming Fearless Chaos Space Marines at around 14 pts each. Tony Kopach showed us what mercilessly spamming troops can do and when you mix 13 pt Space Marine blobs with cultist blobs and likely IG Blobs as well - well, the game can become very boring very quickly.

    I'm afraid the game may devolve into Troop-spam grinds and make me want to shoot myself by turn 3. That's how Kopach's games went at Nova. Don't shoot, don't assault just move troops to the middle and win.

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    1. Just bring more template weapons and say goodbye to troop spam.

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    2. You may be right atrotos. There are just always many ways to spam lists, and after doing some hard looking at the codex information, I have seen many opportunities for that kind of spam.

      Very flexible codex though.

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  9. I would love to see your guard and grey knight list. Please.

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    1. This one is very basic, as it was a test list. Primary 1
      Coteaz with 6 warrior acolytes and psybacks.

      Primary 2
      basic Inq and two Strike squads in rhinos

      Allied 1
      CC, Platoon in chimeras with lascannon and plasma guns in each infantry squad
      Colossus and Vendetta

      Allied 2
      CC, Platoon in chimeras with lascannon and plasma guns in each in each infantry squad
      Colossus and Vendetta

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  10. How many points is that army?

    It's nice to see so many tanks in a list, makes me happy to know they did well as I'm a massive tread head.

    I'm very tempted to convert up a Colossus.

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    1. 2500
      the 2000 version drops 3 vehicles

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