Games Day UK is only two days away now, and we have a video from Forgeworld showing us just what to expect. Enjoy.


via Forgeworld
The most bloody-handed and savage of the Emperor’s gene-forged sons is the Primarch Angron, whose legendary reputation in battle has earned him the title of The Undefeated amongst his brothers. Cast in his youth upon a world of brutal oppression, he was enslaved and surgically mutilated to become a gladiator in its games of death, eventually becoming the undefeated lord of the red sands, a killer without peer.


When he rebelled against his brutal overlords, the Emperor saved Angron from certain death alongside his loyal followers, an act Angron has never forgiven the Emperor for. It is little surprise then that when his brother Primarch Horus turned against the Emperor that Angron was quick to side with the traitorous Warmaster; his only true master though was ever his rage and bloodlust.



43 Comments:

  1. Are they coming out with a fig for all of the Primarch?

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    1. No, not all. We don't even know two of their names. ;)

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  2. When will the models be released on the forgeworld side?

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  3. i like the model but £50 even for a primarch espicallly when you can get similar models that are available now for less from other companies

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    1. you get what you pay for

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    2. Objection, your Honor. Finecast.

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    3. The other models are lower quality, less accurate to the source material, oftentimes out of scale with GW marines, and not allowed in GW stores. These are the true primarchs.

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    4. Have you even seen a 3rd party primarch model in person? They are the bomb, usually better than forgeworld quality but always better than shitcast.

      Truely epic, especially if they plain jane them like angron up there

      If you want to use 3rd party figs at a gw store you just have to say you sculpted/casted it with GW rebranded green stuff

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    5. I own several of the 3rd party "primarchs" and they are NOT of good quality. The details are amateurish and...rounded. They are also comically out of place next to 40k models, and you will wait about 8-9 weeks minimum to get one because those companies don't have the resources to print the models until an actual order is placed.

      Besides, some of these models will get 2 treatments to represent their pre and post fall states.

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    6. I have seen 3rd party primarchs, quite a lot of them in fact, and I wasn't too impressed. The proportions were often quite odd, no sense of scale, and the quality was vastly inferior to Forge World, although sometimes on par with Games Workshop.
      Plain Jane? I can only guess that you mean they haven't put enough detail on the model. Well, any more detail and it would become too busy; there would be too much to take in.
      Using then at a Games Workshop store? Well, I know a few store managers who are very good at recognising 3rd party figures. In any case, you're trying to take credit for someone else's work, which I despise.
      My final point: If you want to be taken seriously, do not refer to finecast as "s***cast." It is offensive, against Natfka's rules for the comments section, and inaccurate. I have had no problems with Citadel Finecast, and I know many other people who also have nothing against it.

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    7. Using *them* at a Games Workshop store.

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    8. -Shrike-, I wish i could "plus one" you or something on this blog, especially for your comments on finecast. Persoanlly i ignore people that go around calling it fail cast, finecost, s**tcast or any immature variations.

      Ive bought plenty finecast models. Ive had a couple of problems, but GW have an amazing return policy for the ones that really bad, and most of the problems are of the teeny bit of greenstuff to fill a small bubble variety, or need a dunk in hot water to straighten a bit. No biggy!

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    9. @Ian Charles: Thanks! I just don't see people's problems with Compared with metal, it holds detail better, it's easier to work with, and the paint doesn't chip off the model if you knock it. As far as the model is concerned, it's a huge step in the right direction.
      The price is a different matter entirely, but I think the slight increase is worth the advantages. Of course, eventually that's up to you to decide, because everyone has their own opinion when it comes to GW prices.

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    10. Problems with *it. Compared to* metal...
      I need to proof-read these comments before I publish them. Either that or get some more sleep.

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    11. @Shrike,

      While I 100% agree with you on terms of etiquette and etc I do want to point out that Finecast are, objectively, a bad material.

      This is coming fom a professional sculptor, mold-maker and caster.

      If you've had good success with your finecast can I ask what armies you play? Because it matters a lot. All of the Marine and Ork Finecast I've seen has been pretty good, but the Necron stuff has been atrocious. This isn't favouritism on GWs part, its that the resin they've selected is a very poor match for what they want to use it for, it doesn't have the neccessary viscosity or strength for the long thin bits characteristic of Necron characters (the fact that they segment the rods giving them built-in break points doesn't help either).

      The resin in Finecast (which I would bet good money on is a low quality polyurethane plastic, and I am nearly as certain they add filler beads to reduce cost), has very little strength, tears easily and easily warps during the casting process, and, judging by the prevalence of bubbles, is not pressurized enough.

      (On fine detail you need to put resins in a pressure chamber and get them up to 30-50psi pressure, depending on the resin, to eliminate air bubbles because at the small scale you are working the weight of resin above is insufficient to overcome friction and tiny, or sometimes large, air bubbles will cling to the sides.)

      Many smaller companies are doing a much, much better job. Order some figures for Strange Aeons (www.strange-aeons.ca) and you'll see what I mean. The sculpts aren't as good, but the casts and resin quality are much, much higher and I know for a fact he's working out of his basement.

      Again, I agree that calling it "failcast" or "sh*tcast" is unneccessary, but it is not actually inaccurate. As a professional I'd be incredibly ashamed if Finecast were my own product.

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    12. I play Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, and Dark Eldar in regards to using finecast models. I have not had a single issue with any of them, besides a bent sword that I was able to with a little work bend back in place.

      I love working with resin, and very much dislike my old metal models. I just wish I could replace some of my old out of print metals with finecast.

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    13. @Natfka:

      I'll admit I'm surprised you haven't had any problems with Deldar, their tiny spikes tend to be where bubbles get trapped, but I'm not surprised that your Grey Knights and Guard haven't had issues, they are largely blocky models with a higher weight of resin to force out air and less frequent tiny choke points (take a look at any of the staffs on Necron characters, or the ends of their scale-mail cloaks for instance).

      I don't know where you are in the world but if you ever need to do some resin casting order some Smooth-On products (especially their Smoothcast 300 series and their Task series, although the Task Series always needs to be pressure cast) and you'll see what I mean.

      Finecast is certainly better than metal, I'll grant you that, but that still doesn't change the fact thats its low quality as a material (which is too bad, because the sculpts themselves are exceedingly good).

      Amongst pro model makers and casters Finecast and Forgeworld are both considered mid-tier in quality at best. Amazing sculpts, poor casting.

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    14. I object to you calling Forgeworld mid-tier quality more than Finecast, unless you are claiming that they are appallingly bad at casting anything. I have heard far more complaints about Finecast than I have Forgeworld, but whether that is because Forgeworld is a niche company, I don't know.
      I have had 3 Finecast kits and two Forgeworld models myself, and I have to say that the resin Forgeworld use is far superior to Finecast, allowing a much greater amount of small detail to be preserved. I would be interested to know what you consider high-tier resin models, bearing in mind the production quantity of both Finecast and Forgeworld. I accept that there will be companies out there with superior resin models, but not on such a large scale.

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    15. @ Shrike;

      I would consider a large minority (>40%) of garage kits to be much better quality (in terms of casting, I'll always concede that GW and FW sculpts are gorgeous, well, usually gorgeous, I think the Hierodule looks like garbage) than Forgeworld, and especially Finecast. Admittedly, Forgeworld uses better resin but it has the same problems with bubbles, warping and over-using molds.

      Browse the tables at Wonderfest (largest con dedicated to model kits in NA, maybe the world but I don't know enough about Asian cons to claim that), order some stuff from Amazing Figure Modeller, anything by Strange Aeons or many other companies and I think you'll see what I mean.

      Finecast isn't terrible, like I said their casting is decidedly mid-tier, but considering that they are at the extreme high end in terms of price I really don't find 'isn't terrible' acceptable.

      "I accept that there will be companies out there with superior resin models, but not on such a large scale."

      This is the crux of my complaint, being on such a large scale they should be doing better, not worse. Many model-makers are constrained by their unit volumes to use worse materials; if I know I'm only going to be producing 5 anyways then I'll go with a cheaper tin-cure silicone mold rubber, even though it'll wear out faster than a much more expensive platinum-cure silicone because I don't need the extra mold-life and I can't afford the extra cost.

      A gallon kit of tin-cure silicone will run me from $250-350 and I can get about 10 pristine pulls from it (assuming a relatively simple shape with few extreme undercuts such as a Space Marine).

      A gallon kit of platinum-cure silicone will run me $400-600 and will need to be vaccuum de-gassed during casting, a lot more work, but will give me 35-40 pristine casts of the same model. Its about double the cost and effort but gives me triple to quadruple the product, so if I CAN sell that product its an easy choices.

      Resin as well, use a more expensive, better quality, resin and you'll save money long term with the lack of product returns and rejected material that never makes it out of the warehouse. Plus your fans will be way, way happier.

      Since Finecast, and to a lesser extent ForgeWorld, benefit from all of the perks associated with high volumes it especially irks me that they have these problems. Large volume is just not an excuse, and never has been, thats like arguing that the Harry Potter books coul get away with lots of spelling mistakes because they had to print so many.

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    16. Ah, but if you're in the garage making models, you can afford to spend time checking every piece you make for mistakes, whereas if you have a large production quantity, you simply can't afford to check that every model is pristine and a perfect copy. You're also limited by time; if you have to produce a lot of models to keep up with demand, then you might not be able to leave it in the mould for a very long time to ensure a perfect cast.

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    17. I just don't understand where you are coming from man, you seem to want to give model-making a special exemption to screw up when it is, literally, the same process as billions of car parts, action figures etc, etc are produced.

      For a professional company, this isn't any harder than casting anything else, do your molds right, set up your production line right and you don't have this level of problems.

      These are not guys in their garage, these are not hobbyists working long hours in the garage for barely any money because they love it.

      Games Workshop is a massive, multinational corporation run by professionals, who charge some of the highest prices in the market. Asking for a professional product is not too much of a burden in my opinion.

      And we GET that quality in their injection molded plastic kits, those are very, very high quality, why people think they should pay more for less quality in Finecast is a mystery to me.

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  4. Like the idea for the game but I'm not bothering to get any from HH mostly cause I doubt anyone in my area is planning on getting it. But think it will be fun.

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  5. That seems like more than a model to me, I'd say it's a diorama. Better than some of the aftermarket sculpts I've seen, worth the money IMO.

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  6. Nice models but the guy looks like he is a fan of Slaanesh..

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  7. Anyone know if they will release a Horus fig?

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    1. Initially it was said that we won't see a Horus model until the end, however, this conflicts with the information that for traitors we will see both pre fall and post fall. But rest assured we will have at least one Horus.

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    2. Horus Heresy book 1 betrayal has rules for horus so you can kit bash, sculpt or wait till its released

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  8. I believe they are releasing them all. Im guessing Horus and the Emp will be last. They will come out as the campaign books progress.
    Angron looks good, but i want Fulgrim!

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    1. I'd say, it's a great intrigue for me to see how Fulgrim will be portrayed. Especially after fall. Hope it'll be really worth £50, can't say that about Angron's model, unfortunately.

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  9. Personally, I can't wait for a snarling Leman Russ.

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  10. Will Forge World do the 2 missing Primarchs is my question?

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    1. Why would they? they didnt take part. and originally they were only missing so people could make up their own legions

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  11. A model with a built in removable 40mm base in the 60mm diorama base? A primarch? Made by Forge World? With a fancy box like that? I must have that model! Now to work out which organs are surplus to requirements...

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  12. Amazing model. I'm glad the day has finally come in which we'll get the primarchs! I can't wait for Russ, Magnus, and Sanguinius!

    But I am hoping they present options for watered down versions of their rules for those of us who don't play Apocalypse but still want to use the models.

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  13. I can not wait for the Mortarion and Fulgrim models to drop, they can not be for behind...

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  14. Bring on Night Haunter!! And please make him awesome!

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  15. Chaos Pre-order is available at GW site now!

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    1. And with a 1 click launch bundle!

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  16. Does this model feel too top heavy to anyone else? Angrons legs look far too slim compared to the upper body mass, added in with the side and weight the cloak appears to be.

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  17. I'm looking forward to the lion cuz I'm a dark angel player sanguinius for his angelic quality Magnus cuz i have a soft spot for preheresy thousand sons

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