Now that people have seen the codex, we have one generous reader that is willing to discuss what he saw in a QnA format on the site. I know he spent quite a bit of time with the codex, so if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

I will let him identify himself if he so chooses. Have at it!

A huge thanks as well for taking the time to do this. We all appreciate it.

Comment section is closed. A compilation and update is being worked on, along with some answers that our guest was gracious enough to do before heading to bed after a long day.

Only one troll casualty for the day

319 Comments:

  1. Anything change with Fabius bile and also points on noise marines or any thing related to slannesh

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    1. Noise Marines are 95pts for 4 plus champ then 17pts each.

      Fabius has FNP, Rod inflicts Instant Death, Needler is Ass 5 poisoned 2+. Think he's 165pts

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    2. What is the cost of sonic weaponry upgrades?

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    3. What exactly is the Sonic Weapon Profiles? We heard possibly salvo, but that would limit charging.

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    4. Sonic Blaster: 24" S4 AP5 Salvo 2/3, Ignore Cover

      Blastmaster: Same as before but adds Ignore Cover

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    5. How much points are cultists

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  2. What are the rules for the Heldrake Vector striking? Any bonuses to its Strength?

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    1. Didn't see that page sorry. Rule is called Meteoric Descent though and can take hades autocannon or baleflamer.

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    2. Ah ok. Str 7 it is iirc then. Thanks!

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    3. Wait so it only has a single hades auto cannon, and a str 7 vector strike? Thought this thing was supposed to wreck flyers.

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    4. Hades is 4 shots at S8 AP4 though.

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    5. But at bs3. And its pinning too.

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    6. At BS3 that's not very impressive. Especially when the thing is supposed to be 170 pts

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    7. Have to say I was pretty underwhelmed though the model is growing on me thanks to listening to Jes Goodwin.

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    8. Is it still 170 points? I'm sorry but 4 bs 3 s8 shots and a s7 vector strike is not anything that's "insanely good" at killing flyers like it was hyped up to be.

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    9. Yeah, I think the better option is the flamer...a 6/3 torrent weapon is friggin badass against space marines of any kind...

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    10. 2.5 auto-hits is worth 17 non-skyfire shots. Its faster than a flying MC and 4 shots at BS3 is still 2 hits.

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  3. What are the cost and options of the Thousand Sons and their attendant Sorcerer.

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    1. They're 150pts for 4 + sorcerer then 23pts each (up to 15 more). Sorcerer can take gift of mutation (allows boon table roll at start of game)

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    2. So horrifically expensive :(. Thanks for the info man.

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    3. How much for the boon of mutation

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    4. Horrifically expensive?! The cost of a sorc plus 4 sons WENT DOWN from the last codex (152 from the last dex). If they are horrifically expensive then, they are horrifically expensive now and were far, far worse off in third ed.

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    5. Can Abaddon take Choosen as troops?

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  4. Do you know the options/points for the Havocs and Oblits? Thanks

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    1. Havocs 75pts for 4 + asp champ, weapons are more reasonably priced FLAKK MISSILES ARE 10PTS PER MODEL AND CAN BE TAKEN WITH FRAG AND KRAK

      Oblits are 70pts

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  5. 4 questions:

    1 - plague marines - cost and do they have FNP

    2 - choosen - any info that is possible

    3 - dark apostole - what is he exactly doing

    4 cultist - can they take mark, and what gear can champ take?

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    1. 1) 120pts then 24 each

      2) Troops when you take abaddon, 90pts then 18pts. Too many options to list

      3) Have to get back to you

      4) Can take marks champ can have a shotgun that's it

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    2. The Dark Apostle allows units within 6" to use his leadership of 10.

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  6. Does Ahriman automatically gain the 3 unit infiltrate like.the rumors said?

    Do tksons have any other weapon options?

    Can cult marines take icons of their god?

    Do chosen have any special rule other than lots of options like the old dex? Similar to loyalist special rules?

    What foc is the apostle really?

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    1. 1) Didn't see anything about that but might've missed it

      2) Just boltgun with inferno bolts

      3) CSM are a bit different now. Basic loadout is cheap. Tons of options and can take mark/icon from all 4 gods. Cult marines are all elites and have mark of their appropriate god. Some can take icons.

      4) Nothing that special but 2 base attacks and access to a lot of stuff

      5) HQ

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    2. Ahriman let's UP TO 3 units infiltrate because he has Master of Deceit Warlord Trait.

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  7. Does Chaos get any kind of jump or fast infantry in terms of troops? Fast attack seems like it's going to have plenty of fun things (Dragons, Warp Talons) I've got to wonder if I'll have any room for good ol' raptors

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    1. Unless I missed it the jump stuff remains as FA.

      Warp Talons seem like they'll be pretty good as they get a 5++ I think.

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    2. Can you please provide more details on warp talons?
      1) Can they take both mark and icon?
      2) Any other upgrade options?

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  8. Here goes: Judging from the battle report in WD, both warp smiths and dark apostles are going to be HQ. If so, I suppose they are in line with the master of the forge and the chaplain, correct?

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    1. Similar idea yes, I'll try and see if any of my mates remember specifics and get back to you.

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  9. Is there god specific Daemon weapons?

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    1. Pass. Can't remember but I'll see if my mates can.

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  10. Oh! And are there any new unseen units that are in the codex we havent heard of?

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    1. As far as I remember everything in the codex either had models or will have by the time the codex hits (from the current advance orders). Don't think they'll risk a "Chapterhouse" again.

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  11. What are the Wargear options for Cultists?

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    1. All can swap pistol for autogun for a point each. Then 1 in 10 can take heavy stubber/flamer and finally champ can have a shotgun.

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  12. is there a way to take dark apostole as elit or some other way to not count him to hq limit?

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    1. Not that I saw, HQ section is pretty crowded really!!

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  13. What's the DL on the apostle, does he really do something special for cultists beyond his normal abilities? What is it? Foc, price, and for god sake..
    Please tell me there's another model that doesn't have that halo!

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    1. Don't remember specifics but will try and find out. FOC is HQ, 105pts, no sign of another model so get converting!

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    2. I am planning to use the Chosen with Mace that came in DV for a dark apostle.

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  14. What can you tell about the Zombies?

    Are there other upgrades for Vehicles (the Fiends) besides the weapons and equipment which are already revealed? For example god-specific upgrades.

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    1. All cultists in a Typhus army can be zombies. Get fearless, FNP and S&P. Can't take any options and only count as having a single CC weapon.

      Only vehicle upgrades I saw were the ones already published in WD.

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  15. I would like to know the wargear, special rules and options for berserkers. Thx!

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    1. Can all take a chain axe for +2pts. Champion can take anything from Melee or Ranged wargear list plus gift of mutation.

      Squad can have Veterans of the Long War which is hatred of all marines (including GK, BA, SW, etc).

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    2. Fearless, Furious Charge and Mark of Khorne (Counter Attack and Rage)

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    3. squad options? Just plasma pistols still? I assume they're still the over-costed 15 points each?

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  16. Do sorcerers have to pay for powers or do they get rolls for free?
    Does mark of tzeench make ts sorceres mastery 2?

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    1. To add to this, if the Mark of Tzeentch does make sorcerers mastery level two, does that mean chaos lords can be psykers as well, if they take the mark?

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    2. Generate powers for free (Bio,Pyro,Telepathy). Don't think mark makes them high mastery. Can pay 25pts per level to make a sorcerer upto ML3.

      Marks for lords unlock the relevant elites to be troops e.g. khorne = berserkers.

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  17. Can icons be sniped out like they can now? I.e. is icon taken by a model or unit? Am I going to lose icons to 6s.

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    1. Single model carries it. So, yes, they can be sniped.

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  18. How much have Daemon Princes gone up in points?

    Can you remember what options they can take?

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    1. See for yourself

      http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348426712843.jpg

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    2. Is that really a sorcerer for 60 points I see

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    3. Better question: what are the daemon princes stats? The image is blurry and... well, god-DAMN do I hope they're WS/I8 or 9 and S/T6. Jesus fuck!

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    4. They're bringing back the Armoury?!

      "May take items from the ... wargear list."

      And now we've gone full circle.

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  19. Any information regarding chaos bikes and juggernauts?

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  20. I'm not at all sold on the new direction, and intend to use Heresy Era Marines from FW with the new book.

    That said.

    1. Details on your bog standard CSM? Cost, upgrade for Vet of the Long War? Upgrade options for the Aspiring Champ?

    2. Chaos Lord details? Weapon Options mostly.

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    1. CSM squad options, courtesy of /tg/
      http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348423077561.jpg

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  21. what weapons can the helldrake and forgefiend take?

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  22. Hey, thanks for doing all this! Just one question, myself: What is Kharn up to these days?

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  23. Here. No need to thank me guys, I'm not the source, nor the guy with anwsers. Links might expire soon so grab them while they are hot!
    http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348423077561.jpg
    http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348423183858.jpg
    http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348423134368.jpg
    http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348423039726.jpg

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    1. Or read them on my blog where I originally posted them.

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    2. Thumps up! Guys also see http://fromthefang.blogspot.de/2012/09/new-chaos-codex-sneaky-pics.html

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    3. They were from you? Big props to you man.

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    4. Abbadon daemon weapon is only AP 3!! what the hell that is a huge nerf. No point taking him now.

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    5. No, the talon is ap3, his sword is still ap 2.

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  24. Are mono-god armies competitive, or do the cost of marks/options make them more of a fluffy option?

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  25. So abaddon makes choosen troops.

    What about terminators?

    What about Khorne bezerkers? Troops or elites?

    cultist unit size can go to?

    Thanks allready for answering!

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    1. from what i saw, no he doesnt make them troops

      No tips on termies yet

      All cult troops (beserks, noise marines, thouand sons and plauge marines) are Elite, unless you take the appropriate mark on a lord, of the specific special char like kharn.

      i think it was 35 max for cultists

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  26. Ahriman's special rules and wargear are leaked but the image cuts off at the Black Staff's wargear. Does Ahriman have access to Divination, and what other special rules does he have?

    Regarding Tsons- Are they Relentless or Slow and Purposeful with a psyker?

    Can Aspiring Sorcerers only select 3/4 powers? Wind of Chaos is Warp Charge 2 and rumor has it Aspiring Sorcerers are only Mastery Level 1. What's the deal?

    Thank you.

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    1. Damn. Never mind. I see it in the picture links above. Disappointing.

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  27. Hey!

    Thanks for answering the questions! Greatly appreciated.

    1. Does Typhus or other "nurgle marked" HQ make Plague marines Troops?

    2. Does Plague marines have FNP?

    Thank you!

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  28. Any upgrades army wide of per unit, other codex rules that could be applicable to alpha legion and/or night lords? Thanks in advance

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  29. I am wondering about mark and Icon costs for Terminators.

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  30. I've got two questions:

    Does Kharn and Typhus still have to strike at Initiative 1?
    And-
    Is Typhus still vulnerable to S10 weapons?

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    1. Typhus's weapon is unwieldy but ap 2, x2 stregth AND a daemon weapon :)

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  31. I remember hearing something about Chosen Terminators? Is that true or false?

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  32. People due your damn research, you're all asking questions that have been answered!

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    1. There is no research to be done. There are like 4 leaked pictures.

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    2. I agree. People are asking some silly questions that have been out for a while...

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  33. Thanks for the answers! Got a few too:
    1. do basic CSM loose the CCW+ bolt pistol as rumored? If yes, can you have it as an option?
    2. do possessed have other special rules than demon and the D3 table we know?
    3. How much do mutilators cost? Are they like obliterators? (2W, 2+/5++)

    thanks for sharing the infos!

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    1. Yes, I have seen that they lose the close combat weapon and whatnot. To get them, you must pay two more points per model, which makes them 15 points again.

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    2. 15 points again with a drop in leadership. God I hate Grey Hunters.

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    3. No, they're 8 base and 9 on the aspiring champion which is higher than Grey Hunters.

      What they do give up is counter attack, acute senses and cheap weapons.

      You gain the ability to take a heavy weapon.

      Really you need to not compare them to Grey Hunters side by side, because CSM lose if you're trying to make them the same.

      They win if you want cheap bolter troops and they come into their own if you add marks and extra wargear. At 17 points, you get a grey hunter with rage, which in many ways is worth it.

      So just keep that in mind.

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    4. Without ATSKNF. That's worth ALOT.

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  34. No, there are like 10, including a summary of every unit in the book, and their stats.

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  35. Your 'generous' reader found the codex picture that are all over and that's about it. Notice how he refuses to answer questions about things not detailed on the pictures? What a 'coincidence'!

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    1. well, then he must have another stash of pictures for some of the other questions he has answered. I know he was there, but its ok to not take my word for it.

      I also know who posted up those pics. As they were sent to me as well (along with many more that are not making the rounds)

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    3. TMI dude.
      And I am sure he'll post what he has a soon as he's ready. People are already blowing their load (you started it!) over the current pics. He's already answered info on Havocs, so he has more information then just these images.

      Keep your pants on.

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    4. Those pics and more can be seen by the guy that took them.
      http://fromthefang.blogspot.com/

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    5. fair enough, i just dont really understand WHY naftka wont immediately post EXTREMELY relevant pics from the new dex if he has them. And even if he did want to keep then to himself(which is very out of character) why let us know about it? maybe so we go digging for them ourselves or something. I just dont get it :(

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    6. ah, ninja'd. Thanks naftka!

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    7. sorry anon, i do apologize. I only brought it up to help the validity of our guest here.

      I do post a lot that approaches close to that line of ip infringement, but I try hard to stay on the right side both the legal, and what the non-drama and morale side of things should be.

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    8. I have to be very careful about posting some of the pictures because they are essentially stolen intellectual property.

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    9. Thank you guys very much, you are brave souls indeed. I understand your situation and can respect it, but as a fan who just wishes they would release that codex already, so i can get kinda crazy for new info. Please do your best to put out as much as you can, it is ALL appreciated and your status in my eyes gets closer and closer to "living god" with every pic you post. I truly love you.

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  36. Greetings from Germany ;-)
    My Question: Do Khorne Berzerkers have weapon options? (Flamer, Melter, something for close combat...)

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    1. They have options for chain axes, which are AP4.
      2 points a model

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  37. Do you know if it would be possible to switch the fiends in other sections of aop maybe in Elite or anything else?

    Best regards

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  38. Will it be possible to make a chaos bike army, like chosen with bikes or so. If so, how many points am I looking at on dropping, are the load outs any good/ flexible, and can they be made to be troops?

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  39. Do we have any better land raiders then our current 10 man version?

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  40. Been to Gamesday UK and hear this from Phil Kelly himself

    First thing. Chaos Lord with (example) Mark of Khorne unlocks Berzerkers as troops. Same with other marks. It's not just special characters that allow this.

    Hope that helps people that are using God armies.

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  41. how exactly can you make cult units troops?

    will sorcerer with mark be enought to take plague marines as troops?

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    1. No. Master of the Rubricae in the Sorcerer entry details which units are Troops for the sorcerer.

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    2. i can't read it

      can anyone read it from those pictures?

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  42. Having a hard time keeping up with everything. Going to take a bit of break but I'll try and catch up when I come back!

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    1. Good riddens. We all knew your info was just those leaked images. Come back when you have the actual book!

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    2. hay man, dont be a dick to him, he might have info we dont, you can never be sure, also i think some stuff he said was not in those picks!

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    3. As natfka says there are more pics than the leaked ones. Had the actual book in my hands but can't remember every single word surprisingly!

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    4. INTERNET RAGE!!!!! Haha, I love how big of dicks people can be when it's to total strangers over the internet. Thanks for posting what you had, regardless of what other "tough guys" say. Oh, and one last thing, it's "good riddance". Please nerd rage with correct spelling :D

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  43. do daemon princes only get the benefits of beeing a Daemon of their god or do they get the mark upgrades aswell? would be disapointing if not...

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    1. They only can use powers and upgrades from their patron god.

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    2. thats what im hoping.. daemon of tzeentch having rerollable 1's on saves and having the 4+ invulnerable save from mark of tzeentch

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    3. There is a special table for Daemon Princes and what they get for their Marks:

      Khorne - Furious Charge, Hatred (Daemons of Slaanesh)
      Tzeentch - Reroll saving throw results of 1, Hatred (Daemons of Nurgle)
      Nurgle - Shrouded, Slow and Purposeful, Hatred (Daemons of Tzeentch)
      Slaanesh - Fleet, Rending, Run an Additional 3", Hatred (Daemons of Khorne)

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  44. I'm not sure if it is every HQ with a specific mark. Phil Kelly only mentioned Chaos Lord with Mark of Khorne (or other) may take Berzerkers as troops.

    God units are Elites standard. A Specific mark (by Chaos Lord) makes them Troops.

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  45. What about Possessed special rules? What's new?

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  46. For Possessd I know your roll for ablities every assault phase. That's all I know for them.

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    1. Sorry for the terrible spelling, just so tired from the trip back home from Gamesday.

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  47. I want to know what are all the units in the codex and how are they organized in the FOC?

    For example a list of all
    HQs
    Elites
    Troops
    Fast Attack
    Heavy Support

    I'd love to see if anything besides cult troops moving to elites has changed, and how this will all impact my collection.

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  48. I have heard no word on dreadnoughts. Do they not exist any longer? Have hey been replaced?

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    1. Hellbrutes are Dreadnoughts.

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    2. So time to toss the old dreds :-(

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    3. Why? Dreadnought models are still perfectly represented by Helbrutes, in much the same way as the old "Eldar Dreadnoughts" from 2nd edition are now represented by Wraithlords. There is no functional difference.

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    4. God JayDee, it's "they're," not "their". Haha, the Squats are not please with your grammar. And no, it's not time to toss the old Dreads. As the story goes, Hellbrutes are just Dreads who have been in the warp too long and have gone insane and started mutating a bit. So it's feasable to argue that your current Dreads just haven't gone crazy to that level yet. :)

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    5. Its 2012 and people still care about grammar? ;)

      I apologize for all squats that took offense.

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    6. Haha, it's cool, they've gotten to the point where the brush off such offenses quickly. What with GW pretending like they never existed for so long, and now they're back but GW is only teasing us with them...

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  49. What about Demons using CSM icons? If so, all of them or just the Dark Apostles icon?

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  50. Are bikers a bit cheaper in the new codex? Thanks for the infos!

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  51. Am I correct in assuming the Daemon Prince lost Eternal Warrior? I can't see it in his entry (though, to be fair, that whole entry is fairly hard to make out ^^)

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    1. It gets the Daemon Special Rule. Makes it Eternal Warrior. Like the Chaos Daemons Codex.

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    2. no he does not get eternal warrior. the Daemon rule now is in the Main Rulebook.

      daemon grants a 5+ invulnerable save and the unit causes fear.

      the daemon special rule from codex chaos daemons is for chaos daemons only.

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    3. So let me get this straight , with no eternal warriors then daemon princes are now USELESS and still the same point when you give them power armour!

      this sounds like phil kellys worst book to date!

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    4. Khorne and Slaanesh are getting all the love this edition.

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  52. Can dark apostles take terminator armour?

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  53. Can units with different marks be in the same squad? Example: Can a Sorcerer with Mark of Tzeentch be in the same squad of Chosen with Mark of Khorne?

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  54. So did no one look to see what the Dark Apostle actually does?

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    1. It's a chaplain.

      It does get to re-rolls the boon character table.

      It has some damaging ablities vs. Enemy units.

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    2. That's all? Wasn't it also supposed to buff Marked and Cult units, and allow daemons to deep strike without scattering?

      I knew it all sounded to good to be true.

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  55. What are the different daemonweapons is there a shooty one?

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  56. is the word on the 2 wound chosen terminators that can be scoring?

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    1. It was a false rumor their are no 2 wound terminators.

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  57. If there are in fact more pictures then why not put them up?

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    1. They're protected IP. Some can be leaked if done Anonymously, but it's a risk for people to put their name on it. While the most you would be likely to get is a cease and desist letter/e-mail, it's still somewhat risky. A few leaked images here and there won't piss of GW too bad, but if EVERY stat line was leaked too many people would just print the pictures instead of buying the codex. It's basically a very fine line that must be walked carefully.

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  58. I'd like to point out that on the GW webpage they have everything in its FoC slot on the chaos army page with exception to the hellbrute and cultists since they dont have a kit for preorder

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    1. How dare you use logic and reason on the internet!!!!

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  59. Do basic Chaos Space Marine squads still have bolters + Bolt Pistols and Close combat weapons? =)

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    1. no they can however exchange the bolter for free or buy the close combat weapon at 2 points..

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    2. they only got only a boltgun and bolt pistol. they cost 13 points base. for 2 points you can give them a additional close combat weapoon you can also swap the boltgun for close combat weapon for free.

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  60. From the pictures it seems Ahriman's staff has the melee force rule and maybe ap 3 can't be a 100% sure. He doesn't have spell familiar so he can't reroll psychic tests so Ahriman's greatest enemy is himself.

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  61. I think he is done for a bit. Check in later though, but I cant promise anything.

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    1. Why not put up the new pictures? If you have more why not answer more questions? I'm calling BS here.

      This place is loosing all credibility....

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    2. Yeah, berate people and talk down to them! That's how you get people to do you favors, right? I agree, posting things you shouldn't and getting the people who sent it to you in possible trouble is wayyyyyyy less important than finding out information thats only two weeks away. How dare you protect your contacs Natfka!

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  62. How much points are cultists?

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  63. Cultist are for 4 points

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  64. Got several questions:

    1.) Anything special for Night Lords? Like special character or something? Warptalons where rumored to be Standard for NL?!

    2.) In the weapons sections are two weapons mentioned that caught my attention, anyone able to give more details on them, i.e. what unit wields?
    2a) CC weapons: Power Lance
    2b) Ranged weapons: Ectoplasmacannon ("Who you gonna call?")

    Thanks in advance.

    Cheers,
    HellHenni

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    1. 1. From what I have seen, no special character. You can make a Lord though which should do what you want.

      2. Power Lances are in the main rulebook. Ectoplasm Cannon is for the Forgefiend (S8, AP2, Blast)

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  65. 1) can Forgefiend take 3x Hades autocannon? if yes what's it's cost? What's the cost of forgewalker with 2x hades autocannons?
    2) what's the price of bikers?
    3) can Raptors take marks?

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  66. iam just disapointed. is there anything in that book that dont makes our beloved CSM weaker or more expensive??? flying prince with 3+ for 220 ponts? wtf? weakling

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    1. Don't forget that he's not Eternal Warrior any more ;o)

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  67. Is there anything specific to other legions such as Alpha Legion, Night Lords or Iron Hands or are these armies made up from basic Lords with Univided traits plus CSM troops, Chosen etc?

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    1. Iron Warriors can use a Warpsmith as HQ.

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  68. i play iron warriors and and i dont even hope for that blessing.. they f**ked our codex again

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  69. I have a technical question. If a model with LD 10 take VotlW, does he fet LD 11?!

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    1. I think remember seeing somewhere in the rulebook that values can not go over 10 so not likely. Would be nice for the chaos sorcerer though since he has one less wound now and we can't take Sorcerer Lords again with this new codex either.

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  70. whine whine whine.. the codex looks plenty powerful especially if the hatred is against every kind of marine, as mentioned earlier in this mess the daemonforge makes the flier and dakka robot pretty potent.

    anyone else notice that the wargear section is back, this makes me happy.

    does anyone have a picture of it?

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    1. REMEMBER YOUR WARGEAR! Yeah that's a good sign of what's to come with 6th edition codexes on the horizon.

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    2. i think it is actually. this is usually a great way to abuse an army. like the old chaos codex the 3.5 one. the wargear was one of the many broken things about that book.

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    3. I agree, while the codex isn't looking like the new OMGROFLStomp everyone book, I like the feel to it. For people upset that their favorite unit they spammed is over priced now or less efficient, remember that GW is a business, and if they left all the best stuff as the best stuff, less people would buy the new stuff. While this isn't the best thing from the customers point of view, it's not in the least bit unexpected. It's like the Carnifex and the Trygon. They Carnifixed it.

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  71. curious also about changes to defiler, with the addition of maulerfiends and forgefiends, how do the defilers appear to stack up.

    also anything about anyone being able to convert raptors/warp talons to troops would be awesome.

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    1. If I had to guess it would be a less appealing option. If the Defiler was better, everyone would use the ones they have and buy less of the Fiends :(

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  72. So Epidemius and Typhus now make one hell of a combo now!

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  73. I find the lack of excitement for this codex is disturbing. I was hoping that it WASNT overpowered, and what we get here seems to be that way.

    I don't want to walk into my FLGS and have the regulars go "Nah, I'll play against the Grey Knights before chaos." And no one at my store plays against the Grey Knights.

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    1. And we dont have all the facts...

      Oh and gasp! Its the first codex to have non faq 6ed rules. Of course people butts will be red. Just play your army and dont listen to anyone else son.

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    2. I agree. It doesn't need to be the new best army. It just needs to be better than 5th edition for me, which given the multiple options, it feels that way for me. There will always be people who get mad because it isn't what they want, or isn't what they felt it should be, but they will get over it and play their Grey Knights more :p

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  74. Anything about Alpha Legion? Some special rules? Can give infiltrate in someway to someone?

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  75. I'm not holding my breath but... do Chaos now have the option of some how making Bikers troops?

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    1. I'm afraid it didn't look like it.

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  76. Right I'm going to go through as many questions as I can before I go to bed!

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    1. Daemon weapons? what different ones are there

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  77. Having never played chaos and now being tempted, I would like to know of a daemon prince is still a hq choice?

    Thanks in advance

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