There are literally too many Chaos Legions rumors floating about, so it was eventual that someone would take the lead and put together a good compilation that weeds out some of the speculation. This set of rumors also contains a few new bits of information as well. Since Chaos Legions will be my next army, I am deeply connected to any Legions rumors that are coming out.

I have an affinity to the Night Lords, since I used to have them (a good friend of mine now has all my old models), but I will be playing whatever army suits my playstyle when they arrive. I may even jump the bandwagon a little and get some models early for this one.



Here is the compilation. 2 things though.
1. These are rumors, please take with salt
2. Some rumors were ommitted from this compilation by the source, this does not mean the rumors passed over are not going to prove out to be correct, just that they seemed less likely.


Compilation put together by The Dude
Preamble:
It is not my intention to imply that only these rumours may be discussed, only that these are the ones I have determined to be strong enough to put in a summary.

General information:
Ghost21 reports that the plan is for 3 Chaos books. Legions, Renegades and Daemons

Daemons are already covered, so the next book will cover the Chaos Legions, with a future Renegades codex incorporating all manner of traitor humans, mutants and Marines-gone-bad.

ghist21 thinks this Legions book will be 1st or 2nd book after 6th edition, which is being released July 2012, putting the release around October-November 2012


via Harry
I do think CSM are the first sixth edition book but not sure if they come just before or just after 6th edition.


theDarkGeneral contradicts this, saying he has heard of 3 separate Legions books with an even split of Legions in each. He claims 2 are planned for release in 2012 and the third for early 2013. He further claims a “Lost and the Damned” style book and a “largely Daemon-based” campaign book are in the works for after that.

theDarkGeneral was supposedly given the Legion split breakdown as:
*World Eaters, Word Bearers and Nightlords

*Deathguard, Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children

*Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion and Black Legion

Mat Ward is rumoured to be writing the codex.

Minor Gods will make an appearance and all Legions will be included

The minor Gods are named, and will act in a similar way to marks, but have no Daemons.


Background:
Ghost21 tells us the background has been expanded and improved so that Legions and their worship of the Gods is far less one-dimensional.


Rules:
Each Legion will have something unique to them, but will have unit restrictions to offset their inherent bonuses.

Ghost21 further clarifies by saying World Eaters may be restricted to 1 Havoc squad, but could potentially take more by “trading in” something else.


via theDarkGeneral
it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts...

And goes on to say the following about the different Legions:

*Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.

*Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!

*Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.

*Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!

*Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...

*Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...

*Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!

*Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules.

Ghost21 tells us Chaos units have built in negatives depending on the God. It is unclear if these are just Cult Troops, or all Marked units

Nurgle units can’t perform Sweeping Advances and are what he refers to as “stoic” (possibly meaning slow and purposeful)

Khorne has to “engage in some kind of combat every turn” (not sure what this means ie does shooting count?) or roll on a D6 table and suffer some random penalty

Tzeentch require a “command figure” (likely Sorcerer) or will act based on a random D6 roll

Slaanesh are described only as having “very harsh results”

theDarkGeneral says Nurgle Flamers can be made poisoned 3+ or even 2+ (possibly through a special character).


HQ
Special Characters:
ghost21 tells us characters will supposedly be very powerful, including the “Red Angel” from this artwork

Although ghost21 goes on to say he hasn’t seen a named Warsmith character, only a Dark Mechanicus one.

theDarkGeneral claims we will see the return of Droomrider, Doombreed, and Cypher as well as another 5 new characters. This does not preclude any or all existing special characters being included.

theDarkGeneral also tells us there will be a Slaaneshi Dreadnaught special character.

theDarkGeneral reports that Ahriman will be better due to new Chaos Psychic powers as well as "some kind of guaranteed psychic ability that can't be stopped via Psychic Hoods, etc"


Elites
theDarkGeneral tells us Chaos Dreadnaughts will no longer act randomly, and are able to take marks, but will not be able to be Venerable.

theDarkGeneral claims Possessed will be improved and supposedly have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for.

ghost21 tells us there will be a "gladiator themed" World Eater unit

ghost21 also says Emperor's Children will have access to a unit described as "soul shieldsman" which is possibly an upgrade for Veterans.


Troops
theDarkGeneral implies there will be some kind of “Scout unit” which will not be available to World Eaters.

God-specific Daemons will likely be included, but ghost21 is only sure of the lesser varieties (Plaguebearers, Bloodletters, Daemonettes & Horrors) and not the greater ones

theDarkGeneral claims Daemons will remain as they are in the Daemons Codex, but with slight points adjustments to reflect the ability to summon them and certain 6th edition changes.


Fast Attack
theDarkGeneral claims “Assault Berzerkers” with jump packs will be available as Fast Attack choices.

ghost21 tells us Doomrider will be a unit upgrade (presumably for Bike squads)

theDarkGeneral mentions a new unit called Brazen Knights consiting of "Skull Champions" (possibly super Khornate CSM Champions) riding Juggernauts


Heavy Support
theDarkGeneral tells us Slaughterfiends from Apoc will be available, as well as versions for other Legions and Marks.

theDarkGeneral reports Obliterators maximum unit size is increased to 4

theDarkGeneral says most types of Daemon Engines can be taken as 3 per FOC slot

theDarkGeneral claims Legions will get a new Landraider pattern with a higher transport capacity (possibly 15) and is described as a "warped version of one of the Imperial versions”

Marked Legions are rumoured to get Havocs

theDarkGeneral has also hinted at the possibility of a new Monstrous Creature that is not a Greater Daemon. No further info is available as yet.

Dedicated Transports
No news as yet


Miniatures:
Plastic Dreadnaught rumoured by both ghost21 and theDarkGeneral. TheDarkGeneral claims it will include multiple Dreadnought close combat weapons types, such as the Chainfist, Thunder Hammer, Power Scourge, etc.

Plastic Plague Bearers rumoured to appear in the 6th edition started

Plastic Raptors have been confirmed by the ever-reliable 75hastings69 who said:


via 75hastings69
I can add to this that the new plastic Raptors are very nice

Abaddon – ghost21 claims this miniature is almost identical to the existing one, but “bulkier and taller”

Little Horus - ghost21 reports seeing a miniature for this guy, and implies it is very good

ghost21 also claims to have spotted a miniature for a Dark Mechanicus character, but is unsure if he will make it to release. He described it as:


via ghost21
a very creepy sculpt based on a john Blanche piece

16 Comments:

  1. Affinity, not infinity.

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  2. Mr Natfka

    Thanks to these rumours I am now corrupted. Chaos Legions WILL be my first army!

    3 days in a row full of rumour, I'm beginning to believe the Legions will be sooner rather than later. The later the better however as I save up the £££.

    Thank you again, Lord of Night.

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  3. All really cool and interesting.
    Note, however, that the november-december slot is most likely earmarked for The Hobbit.
    GW will go all in on that release, so a Codex or Army book during that time seems unlikely.
    (Not contradicting any of the above, just adding thoughts.)

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  4. Just to clarify, a skull champion (unless it has changed) is a berzerker aspiring champion (for the brazen knights rumour). All sounds amazing, though, and unless I missed something, no contradicting rumours.

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  5. I long to spread the Word of Lorgar!

    Fanaticism aside, it's really hard to discern what is wishing, bs, hearsay and the truth. Lots of these rumors refer to previous editions and BL novels, that have little merit in the designing. Like the rumor above mentioning all those diffrent types of Khorn dedicated troops, whilst there is nothing about Slaanesh.

    Why can't they just drop the LotR already, does anyone play it anymore?

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  6. first anon. Thanks, spell check does not catch it when the brain forgets to communicate the correct words to the fingers. Corrected.

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  7. @ Anonymous who wants to spread Word of Lorgar:

    Doomrider was a Slaanesh character riding a bike. Think he had WD rules but that was AGES ago. In the rumours there's talk of soul shieldsmen for Emperors Children and a slaanesh dreadnaught special character. That's 3 Neshi rumours.

    Hope that pleases. With so many rumoured things, it's easy to miss them.

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  8. Lexicanum DoomriderNovember 23, 2011 at 2:30 PM

    Source: Chaos Space Marines 3rd edition.

    Doomrider is a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh. Mounted on a daemonically possessed bike adorned with deadly blades and spikes and wielding his cruel daemonic sword, he carves a bloody swathe across the battlefield as he mercilessly hunts his prey. He can be summoned by Chaos Cultists in foul rituals to aid the forces of Chaos in battle, however he is highly unpredictable in nature and seldom stays in the material universe for very long, often returning to the warp as suddenly as he appears.

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  9. Universial stealth sounds pretty sick for night lords. i really hope these rumors are true because 40k is really lacking without its main antagonist

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  10. @Warped T, thanks, missed that. I just think that Slaanesh seemed to be under represented most of the time. I'd really like to see the use of sonic weaponry increased, there's a pic at the back of the current codex with five Noise Marines all toting Sonic Blasters and it looks awesome.

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  11. I still think they should give it to Robin Cruddace to write. The Legions of Chaos are so varied that only a book similar to the IG Codex could hope to cover them all.

    As to a Scouts unit, there are the Cultists and Traitors that could easily fill this role.

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  12. @Anonymous 10:49 PM

    I had to read the list a couple of times, despite having kept up with the rumours.

    I know where you're coming from. Slaanesh has some good daemons, in plastic, but no Forge World love like Death Guard and World Eaters. Neither do they have Finecast or plastic box sets of the noise marines from GW, just the metal guns to add to a box.

    Correction, FW does at least put sonic weapons on a dreadnaught. Rumours speak of Tzeentch in Imperial Armour 12, so don't lose hope. Perhaps Emperors Children will get some FW lovin' in a few years. Let's face it if the Death Guard and World Eaters are anything to go by, they will be well worth the wait.

    Victory belongs not to the strong, but to the patient.

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  13. Being a brit, I don't celebrate Thanksgiving. So I've spent time drooling over the juicy rumours and found the icing on the cake.

    I noticed 'Doombreed' mentioned and went to lexicanum, sure I'd seen the name before:

    "Doombreed is a mighty Daemon Prince of the Blood God Khorne, responsible for leading a Black Crusade against the Imperium. He is older and more powerful than even the mighty Daemon Primarchs.

    Doombreed was one of the first of Khorne's servants. Doombreed's true name has long been forgotten, but he was once human, a mighty warlord who led armies which ravaged entire nations on Earth long ago, responsible for genocide and murder on a grand scale. Such wanton carnage drew the eye of the god Khorne, still relatively young, who granted the warlord the ultimate reward of Daemonhood.

    Doombreed was present on Horus' Battle Barge during the Heresy when the Emperor and Horus fought.

    Millennia later he declared war on the Adeptus Astartes and launched his Black Crusade. During this Crusade two loyal Space Marine chapters, the Warhawks and the Venerators were wiped out."

    With the mention of a 'monstrous creature' in the rumours it started me thinking. Could this be possible? I hope so! I really want this to be true!

    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

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  14. Lexicanum, under 'Red Angel' I could find nothing about the Blood Angel in the picture from the heresy art book. The only reference I could find to a 'red angel' is this sentence:

    "Angron (also known as the Red Angel) is the Primarch of the World Eaters."

    Sorry, I've spent days trying to identify the blood angel in the picture. Doubt they would release a daemon primarch as every other legion (and loyalist) would scream 'no fair!'

    Other info is that Little Horus Aximand, so far, is still alive in the Heresy series. He had his face chopped off by a White Scar but it was reattatched. Apparently he looks even more like Horus.

    Death Guard, Thousand Sons and Emperor's Children have their versions of Defiler, like World Eaters have their slaughterfiend version.

    In the Seige of Vrax, a group of Daemonancers helped summon An'ggrath. Though not called 'Word Bearers', they did originate from that Legion.

    Phew! That's as much as I'm digging up for now. Doesn't mean the rumours are true, just that they're not as 'impossible' as some feel.

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  15. Natfka, love your blog sir, feels like small family here btw.

    Small update, ghost21 responded to me concerning new plastic cult troops and said he has seen plague marines and some bike type unit, ill see if he can elaborate.

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  16. recent rumour of another chaos land raider seems likely. not confirmed.

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