This evenings rumors are a set of rumors that come directly from Phil Kelly..... sort of. Lets take a look.

The primary thing in this rumor that is new, is the FOC flexibility. Definetly something I like. If this could be done once, it would add a ton of flexibility to our army lists. I love the idea as it changes what I would be able to field on the table top and if it was confirmed, I would already be buying new models for it.

Before we get carried away though, these rumors have some problems. I see a ton of rumors, and normally when the author of a rumor gets into conversations like this (posted at the bottom of the rumors) the rumors themselves become highly suspect.

Its important to know where a rumor comes from, otherwise you are just talking out of your butt.

Please take the following rumors with a serious (and possible life threatening) amount of salt. Although please add these FOC options to my wishlist for 6th edition.

via The Man They Call Jayne
After my time away (what do you mean you didnt notice? ) with friends. I have heard a few rumours for the GW high up through a mate. His source is GWs own Phil Kelly, who has just started work on the Tau Codex.

1) 6th ed boxset is set to be Eldar Vs CSMs, as they will be the among the first 6th ed codexes.

2) Eldar will be first, then Tau or CSMs

3) Force org in 6th is undergoing a fairly interesting change. Slots will be as they are, but you can sacrifice 2 FOC slots to gain an extra one somewhere else. you can drop 2 fasts and get an extra heavy. Or a heavy and a fast and get an elite. Only thing you cant get is extra HQs i think.

Personally i read it as only being doable once. so you can only gain 1 extra anything, not abandon your entire army for a huge vendetta wing.

Dark Angels are coming up as are templars, but info is much much more hazy on them.
CSMs are going to be 2 books. Legions and Renegades. Which will be nice and fun

4) A new "Insectoid" Tau Aux race. Thats all I know on that bit though. Not niccasar it would seem.
Forgeworld stuff is moving across too. TX-42 and Hazard. Maybe even the Remora

Jonagon The Man They Call Jayne (referring to the source he got the info from)
His source is GWs own Phil Kelly, who has just started work on the Tau Codex.

Really? Phil Kelly told you this? I can't believe he'd be stupid enough to tell you, given that you've used his name with it. Pretty sure GW would literally fire him.

Jonagon The Man They Call Jayne Eldar next seems pretty solid though. He didn't tell me, he mentioned it to a friend of his who happens to now be dating the friend i went to see over the weeks, and he passed on these tidbits to me.


  1. extra FOC trading! why not make it +1 accross the board?
    this is just a way to push for higher point games IMO, caus at lower points like 1500 this doesn´t do much

    getting in the hobby wil be so expensiv in 6th... starter box will be at 90-100€ like dreadfleet and dexes 32€ like WFB and 2500 will be the new points standart :P
    thank good i started 15 years ago :D

  2. just started the tau codex? wouldn't that mean a late 2012-2013 release... found out from a friend of a friend who is jacking PK... sigh... salt galore for this high blood pressure fool lol

  3. Sorry, My friend and Fiends... I am little slow, But I cant even believe this one, its just something not kosher in frog down over this one...and i believe more then half of the rumors... Sorry..

    I dont believe PK would be giving any info to anyone.. and if he just started working on the Tau, that means late 2012 or early 2013, which means CMS is late 2013????? Speaking as a Magazine editor...

    So no I dont believe this one...

  4. IF the foc stuff is true it means you could tailor an Iron Warrior force or World Eaters. In my head this works better for Chaos and Guard than most others.

  5. FOC changing is big, for small games where you just cannot fill every slot, and for armies that have overcrowded Elite slots (Tyranids, hmm. Maybe, just maybe, 6th will make the usable?)
    However, seeing 40 TH/SS Terminators on the board in one army is really frightening... We shall see. I really hope that 6th will be a very big change with very well tested and designed rules, not just a small patch.

    On the other hand, if Kelly has just started Tau, there is no way that they will be next, and it contradicts with every rumor we had until now. Eldar next seems unlikely, although we have seen rumor on starter box to be CSM vs Eldar earlier. Don't think that will happen, neither is a starter-friendly army. And they won't be releasing two mediocre 4th ed. armies in the starter box AFTER releasing 6th ed, but BEFORE upgrading these armies to 6th ed. No way that's going to happen.
    My guess is that we will see some power armor codex in March / April 2012 (BT presumably, but for that we have way too few rumors currently), then 6th in summer, and Eldar & CSM after that.
    Or, BT, Tau (as was stated in one rumor that they will be the last 5th army), 6th, then CSM in November 2011 and Eldar in early 2012 maybe. That seems doable.

  6. My 'small' Necron army is planned at 4000points (actually about 36??points). I've not filled the Elite and will gladly trade 2 Elites for an extra Doom Scythe, or Immortal Squad in Night Scythe, or Tomb Blade squadron.

    As for the rumoured armies, perhaps Phil Kelly did give the rumours to confuse existing rumours so that everyone will be squabbling over who is right and who is wrong then suddenly they release codex ???

    One thing I've learned from you all is that GW is hyper-paranoid secretive. Any staff giving a rumour is SACKED! People, if the source is true, I smell rumour sabotage designed to throw us off the scent. I'm now off to hospital after ingesting 1,000,000,000 times my own body weight in salt.


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