I believe I get asked several times a day whether or not Chaos Marines are going to be released in September, and the answer is that I can't be 100%.  So I am throwing down all the current rumors as I see them, between Warseer and here on Faeit 212, so that possibly we might decipher what will lies ahead.

No matter what happens though, with only 3 release months left in the year, these last few months are looking like a very tight release schedule. (I don't count December for codex releases, but I am sure we will see something that month).

Please remember that these are rumors, and salt is required.

On Warseer
According to 75Hastings69 on Warseer, Chaos Space Marines are next, but will be followed by Warriors of Chaos, Dark Angels, and then a dual release of Daemons of Chaos or Chaos Daemons. At least that is my take on it. However I could be incorrect, and I have posted up the relevant information below.

Hastings seems to correct the information by Harry by throwing Dark Angels behind Warriors of Chaos. In another post though, Harry seems to believe that the Chaos Daemons and Daemons of Chaos codices could still possibly come this year and does not have Dark Angels in his lists.

via Harry on Warseer
Maybe their are just two books ... with daemons included!!! 
EDIT: Although hastings is pretty clear...
To clarify....
Books.
CSM
WoC
DoC
Chaos Daemons

All will be realeased within 4-5 months of the CSM codex hitting (sep afaik)

Warriors of Chaos (Oct/Nov)

Daemons of Chaos (Late 2012/Early 2013?)

via 75Hastings69 on Warseer
By feb next year you'll have CSM, WoC, DA, DoC, CD (chaos daemons 40k codex before anyone starts with chaos dwarf crap!).

Obviously the 2 daemon books will be in one month sharing model releases 

WoC are next after CSM..... not been making myself clear enought for the last 12 months obviously

Faeit 212 Sources
From the relevant sources I have had, which only tend to discuss 40k, both codices Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels are currently scheduled for releases this year. Now if you throw in Warriors of Chaos into the mix, you would end up with something like this.....

Chaos Space Marines (Sept)
Warriors of Chaos (Oct/Nov)
Dark Angels (Oct/ Nov)
December (No codex release)

Granted I do not get Fantasy Rumors that often, so the Warriors of Chaos is based off of Harry/ Hastings and what they have been saying now for quite some time about the codex.

One thing I find odd with the rumors above is that Daemons of Chaos and Chaos Daemons just received a White Dwarf update, and yet is predicted to be released soon with codices. I find that an odd schedule. I know the DarkGeneral had heard summer 2013 as a release date for Daemons, and that to me made more sense.

Also note that Harry puts CSM in September.

75 Comments:

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    1. I think the goal of any read should not to be first, but to be last. That would truly be a noble competition.

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    2. Yeah and anyways im supposed to be first! :(

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    3. Natfka got half of the equation at least, not only should it not be a race to read but you might want to wait a bit & think about if you have anything to say.
      JD & all the first'ers should just chill out.

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    4. Hey. I dont try to be first. I just happen to refresh at the right times ;)

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    5. Sigh...You're missing the point.

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  2. Before JayDee!!!

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  3. The next one who says "First" should be punished by the Inquisition ;)

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    1. Bwahahaha! I AM the Inquisition >:D
      On a serious note, That was probably the only time I'll ever get to do it so my bad but I saw an opportunity and took it! :P
      Btw, this is the original commenter (first and only time) ;)

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  4. Anyways though, daemons being a white dwarf update doesnt seem strange. The fliers were in the white dwarf update as was the vampire additions and a rulebook still came out. Don't forget the rest of the army now has to deal with being allies and some point modifications and rule changes to bring her up to speed.

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  5. So if CSM is Not Sept there is no releas Till March!

    Doesnt it make more sence Not to releas CSM Since GW wants Rumors & leaks to stop?

    I dont See any Thing Substantial pointing towards CSM in Sept. Or any Time Soon. Its just the Rumors and People wishfull thinking.

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    1. omg Bat therez harry a hastings, Which are most reliable Wersaar rumomongers, with Very good romurs Rekord and they both Agri Taht tere is no DA before CSM, so if CSM is March than DA is not till July 2013

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    2. Wrong
      They agree on DA Before Feb
      DA releas is Not dependend on CSM. If CSM doesnt come you cant just asume they come a Month later and Rumors are always right.

      People just like to 4get the Fake Rumors

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    3. I think the order of things still remains and is agreed upon by rumor sources...

      CSM is next. WoC and Dark Angels are after that. Daemons is the new addition, and is said to be before Feb. That is 5 codices between now and February. Very tight schedule.

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    4. Yes the Order Stands but Thats RUMORS
      The DA pic in WD is Not a rumor
      How come there is no CSM pics?
      Only 3 Weeks left we keep repeating how many Weeks Old Rumors?

      I would Take this supposed CSM releas with a Lot of Salt at this Point

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    5. Even if CSM are in the pipes maybe they got pushed back BECAUS of the leaks???

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    6. So they're taking a marine infantry approach to things...

      Punish everyone because of a few.

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    7. I've said elsewhere that if a CSM dex wasn't IMMINANT we'd not see the starter set we have containing such a large percentage of new units for chaos space marines.

      the starter set is almost designed as a "preview" for the new chaos marines dex.

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    8. How come CSM is Not on the Cover of Mainrulebook? Not on Last Page of WD. Not in teaser vid? How come? Is GW trying to makes us think DAs are next???
      Or are the Rumors wrong this 1 Time? I mean 2nd Time After ghost21??? Did also some One say CSM Before crons a Year ago???

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    9. I'm calling it now! CSM by October at the latest else on oath, I will convert to ultra marines.

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    10. Oh my godddddd why does this DA anon keep coming back.
      Dude we understand you think DA are next, and that apparently a picture in the back of White Dwarf is proof of that. Lay off, you spout the same stuff every time, and you don't change anyone's mind.

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    11. Also on side of WD Since Jan
      Also on Front of rulebook
      + they had Les Rumors wich makes sence caus of anti-leak policy by GW

      And CSM on the otherhand should have Been Out a Year ago if you prefer beliveing Rumors instead of Logic.
      I cant stand the CSM is next anymore! It Said so in a rumor :D

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  6. Please keep in mind that they did the same WD supplement thing prior to releasing the Vampire Counts book, as they released the new wraith, banshee and terrorgheist models. So I don't think that its out of the question at all, in fact I would say that it would seem to indicate they are closer to release than you think.

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    1. With that Logic Orks would be next Since they got 3 Flyer variants! -.-

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    2. Maybe they are, considering the release list :)

      WAAAAGH!!!

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  7. Yeah new chaos deamons. Although this means tau get pushed back even farther.

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    1. nobody likes tau so no issue there

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    2. O_O ..... give me the rifle shas'o got me some huntin i gotta do

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    3. I like them..... :(

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    4. It's just those that get punished by our RAILGUNZZZ! that don't like our blue friends! bwahahahaa!

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    5. GW seems to wanna push chaos to the forefront of the new edition early and hard.

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    6. Me and a friend too

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    7. If they want to push Chaos hard, then this release schedule shows it (CSM, WoC, DoC and Daemons) However, it conflicts with the other army/codex releases (Dwarfs,HElfs/Eldar, Tau) that are supposed to be in early 2013. I guess if they wanted to save a release, the daemon codex could be for both systems? Personally, I'd like to see the Tau update even though I don't play the blue guys.

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  8. Ah Daemons. Well, if the release schedule for next year is indeed true, we're not likely to see new Greater Daemon sculpts until after June 2013 at the earliest. It doesn't much make sense to release a codex without a wave of models to accompany it does it?

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    1. Agree
      1 of the Rumors has to be false
      And GW has to think up a Lot of New Units for demons if they want a releas them again.

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  9. The last codex/army book to get a white dwarf update was vampire counts. And then they were the next or second next codex to come out. Just sayin. To add a better view point on why daemons would come out

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  10. for me, the CSM are a secret release of septembre or they are not already leaked by the White Dwarf...

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  11. sitting here with a WD in hand, I can tell you that they're not mentioned in the WD outside of the starter set.

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  12. I am surprised there isn't more talk of 6th ed vanilla marines. They are usually front and center when a new edition drops.

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    1. I figure they'll be in early spring 2013 myself, give GW a little time to gauge response to some of the new features in codex: dark angels.

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    2. There's also a huge SM release coming late next year, according to the leaked release schedule.

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  13. The CSM's dont really need to be featured in WD for people to find out about them as there is Facebook, Rumour sites, WNT on the GW website, Instore etc... in fact from what i hear lots of people dont even read WD.

    maybe they are a stealth release, maybe theyre bogus. no way to know for sure and unless anyone has SOLID proof im going to say...Nope.AVI

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  14. On the daemons issue, i recently asked my independant stockist if he could order me in both 40k codex and fantasy books, he was told they not currently available.

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    1. Both still available on the website.

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    2. I know they are still on the website and my local Gw jusy not from my independant.

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  15. WHERE IS THE TAU??????? COME ON GW GIVE A DOG A FECKING BONE....please :-)

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    1. forget about new codex before April next year. BTW I haven't lost a game in 6th with Tau, and that's something about 15 games. :)

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  16. We have seen pictures of the new chaos minis included in the starter set that are taken straight from the next white dwarf, so if there was supposed to be more stuff for chaos this month, we would already at least know what it is IMHO. Also, I do not believe in a starter set + codex release for the same month.

    My guess would be september for the starter only, then CSM or Dark Angels in october (rumors say CSM, but the "next month" page from the WD clearly shows a DA)

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    1. Sorry Anon, you're just going to be very very wrong :3

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    2. Plz Dr. Bored. Share more.

      :)

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    3. Are there two JayDee's, or have you changed your picture?

      Or do I need medical attention and perhaps a straight jacket?

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    4. I agree
      Its very clear the rumor was Not korrekt.

      2 SM dexes in a Row would also be Hard for xeno Players and Bad for Sales of at least 1 of the dexes!

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    5. OP here

      The people that have seen the September WD reported that there is no mention of a CSM codex coming this month. Also, it would be rather unusual for GW to put out a new codex without making any advertisement for it, the same month as a starter set. Way too bad for the sales.

      For the October release, CSM codex is believable, but the thing that still bugs me is that the "coming next month" picture at the end of the WD is clearly a Dark Angel. (The last one hinted a DA vs CSM starter set, and happened to be true)

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    6. As far as I'm aware it says, 'the battle rages on'. This doesn't mean anything. Maybe they're just doing a battle report based on the contents of the starter set? They've had teaser previews of battle reports several times before. Hell, they had one twice in a row with orks and White Scars at the back of both May/June issues.

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  17. Games Workshop will want the starter set to get all the attention. So not surprised Chaos Space Marines are a month later.

    Jokes on them because I'm going to wait for the Codex to be released anyway. Wuhahahahaaaa!

    As for the rest of the rumoured models? We shall see. Come February, will we be mocking or praising this rumour?

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  18. IT MUST BE CHAOS I HAVE WAITED TOO LONG!!!

    THESE RUMOURS MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE PAINFULL

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    1. But if you worship Slaanesh, that pain's a good thing, right? :P

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  19. I got this feeling deep in my gut.. that it will be the sb, then da, and the csm will be a white dwarf. Somrthing not sitting kosher with me. I don't think csm is going to be the 8th sept. But a sub in wd. I hope not, but I think the gw is going to throw a MAJOR curve ball at us. Trying to teach us all a lesson. Which I don't personally like. But the on lock down, saying they will punish or fire people over up coming rumors. New line (?) trying to bully them in to keeping quite?

    I mean really? Does this all sound a little strange to anyone? Unless the rumors are coming from a big guy who is safe no matter what.... sorry, just very VERY Supisious

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    1. Sorry wrong rumor date for the csm... oops

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  20. Just echoing what others have said, the daemon pre-wave seems to be a strong indicator of their upcoming-ness. The only pure model releases we've had sine vampire counts were necron wave 2 and finally fleshing out space wolves and tyranids. All other waves have been previews of new codices.

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  21. given the presence of so many NEW units in the starter set I can't see CSMs not getting a new codex. the starter set is, for CSM players almost a friken advertisement

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  22. I was happy to wake up to read this Daemon rumor, but I'm considering it a high-sodium rumor for the moment. One thing that would lend credence to the rumor is previous rumor regarding new daemon minis, like the Furies.

    I'd love to see my Daemons get a new codex, but I'm not going to plan for it. If they *do* I shall remain vigilant in my hope that they make new Fiends of Slaanesh.

    ~Muninn

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  23. Haha, watch it be tau in September followed by Eldar and Black Templars so GW can give us the finger, that would be funny.

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  24. Honestly, what is with the Anon that keeps wailing on the CSM rumours? Someone seems obsessed about proving a point that appears to be very wrong. What the hell does it matter if most people believe CSM are next? We'll find out soon enough, there's no point arguing with everyone who disagrees with you about the release schedule.

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  25. Peeps keep focusing on the big two and forget that GW has that annoying little game lotr which has a movie coming out in Nov iirc.
    That seriously effects at least one month this year.
    I would not be surprised if DA ar next year after all. My 2c=
    Sept-CSM
    Oct-WoC Or CD/DoC
    Nov-HOBBIT suck.
    Dec/Jan-Holiday
    Feb-DA

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    1. So Sure its Not CSM nect Year???

      Doesnt Look Good for dex releas now

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  26. It would make sense for Daemons to be fairly soon as Chaos is meant to be the 'Great Enemy' in 6th Ed and at the moment both chaos codexes are far from great imo.

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  27. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I think that Daemons will be released in Jan/Feb. Nothing telling me that, it's just a feeling. I'm probably wrong though.

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