The Horus Heresy book 1, from Forgeworld is going to be a huge hit. I think the hype for this is far out doing anything I have seen in the recent past for Forgeworld. Its going to be a huge seller. Even if I never play a Horus Heresy game, I will be getting these simply for the artwork alone.


Here is a new set of rumors regarding book 1. Enjoy

via Faeit 212 (a Must Remain Anonymous Source)
The Horus Heresy book 1 will have rules for playing Space Marine Legions. 

Each legion gets a unique special rule for all space marines. 

Each Legion is getting a unique elites option. 

HQs get some unique wargear based on legion as well. 

Guard are in the list and operate like platoons from the 40k dex. Essentially being a list within a list needing command + 2 units and can then take others. 

They can't blob, but they can be taken in squads up to 30 anyways. 

Super heavy tanks are in, but are BS4 with space marine crew. 

Legions have the option of taking allies from other space marine forces, Titans or guard air force. 

Betrayal has the legion rules for Luna wolves, death guard, emperor's children and world eaters 

Primarchs are Apocalypse only and pretty baller. 

No rules for Horus until the Battle for Terra book. 

Mortarion, angrin and fulgrim are in. 

Space marines are fearless and a basic marine is 16 pts with bolter, bp, ccw and their legion rule or generic place holder. 

Games are recommended to be played at 2,500 points or more. 

One of the special scenarios calls for 10,000 points per side and ISN'T apocalypse. 

There is a section on Xenos which suggests that some heresy era rules may come for them as well, but in betrayal they are a foot note but can still participate in Volume 1 of the campaign (and presumably throughout).

later in the series to keep it fresh, there will be additional wargear and options for traitor legions in the form of mutations and gifts as well as a rules for using daemons as allies, and similar ally intended lists for sisters of silence and Custodes though nothing will stop you from using these lists as pure armies save that they are not fully fleshed out. 


You just nominate your legion, you don't have to purchase a specific special character. 

Don't worry though, special characters are in, and they force your legion rule. 


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    1. Naftka, please delete crap like this

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    2. im begining to think your enjoying it!, btw i'm not the FIRST! guy, and not the one who commented above

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    3. No. I just cant believe you people would let an anon be first -.-

      Turn my back for 10 minutes....

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    4. Yea this whole first cramp just waters down the site.

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    5. I had figured it would burn out by now.

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    6. Sorry Natfka, didnt think people would make a game of it :(

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    7. Uh, it won't burn out, as a video gamer, I can attest to it. Cursed internet memes.

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  2. Oh and this is awesome! My wife's birthday present just went out the window!

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  3. :( I wanted Dark Angels in the first book!

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    1. just because Johnson was first in the Emperor's eyes doesn't mean he is in anyone elses.

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  4. I couldn't possibly care less at this point. Rather have 40k army books and releases. Just not good timing in my opinion.

    -Fred

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    1. I hear ya Fred. Just feels like a waste - another pointless expansion that will become irrelevant a couple of months after it releases because "you won't see it at tournaments."

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    2. But everyone will buy at least a Primarch, many will buy 18. Win-Win situation.

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    3. That's 18 different sculpts that could have come out for races that need it more. Not saying they won't be awesome-looking, just saying they're pretty useless game-wise.

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    4. Forgeworld's productions are separate from GW. They only share timetables to make sure releases don't cannibalize releases across the systems. In other words, this has nothing to do with Chaos Marines.

      Though in the grand scheme of things, it could be a thing to draw more attention to the backstory of the Chaos Legions. Perhaps this will be the way people can bring Chaos Legions to the table. After all, there were plenty of people begging and wetting themselves for it.

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    5. I understand they are different companies, and simply try not to compete directly in regards to release schedules (which is honestly BS as FW releases 1 model a month with experimental rules, followed a year later with a "rule" book that jerks don't allow in games). But the day the rumor came up that 40k releases were pushed back for this release I became angered.


      I want a Lion Primarch, I want to see the other Primarchs... But I'd rather have CSM, DA, and any Zeno release before it.

      Should have saved this for a quiet time next summer when the focus is WFB, or later this year whilst Hobbit is being released.

      Ehh, tired of waiting on DA I guess... So much butthurt induced in me by GW.

      -Fred

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    6. DrBored,

      For Forgeworld fans such as myself the separation in production is irrelevant. It's still resources that could have gone towards more xenos units and the next IA installment. Not sure where you saw a reference to Chaos.

      Chaos Legion army lists will be for not if the HH series does not plug directly into normal 40k. Expansions will be too risky to invest an army in.

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    7. FW is about Apoc and alternate Models. They are Not relevant for 99% of Games played.
      Their rules change Year by Year, Book by Book.
      Like GW they want to sell the New stuff. All oder Models had a Ton of diffrent rules over the Last decade. Some ork Units like squiggoth & battlefortress got nerfed so much that they are totally diffrent Unit.
      I think you have the wrong expactations!
      FW Units are Not anywere near as Balancend as GW dexes. And unless you like the Look you shouldnt BuY IMO. I had my warhounds Turn to the worse over the years due to rule changes for GW & FW. Have to Jet Play 6th Ed Apoc but i guess hullpoints will Suck for them.

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    8. @Atrotos: You have no idea what you are talking about for one, and furthermore, you have no idea what you are talking about.

      FW and GW releases are not designed to work with, for, or against each other. This release has no impact on what GW's release schedule was lined up to be.

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  5. How can any one possibly say they arent excited by the prospect of playing the Heresy??

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    1. - Poor quality FW rules
      - Expansions never seem to survive more than a few months
      - 40k desperately needs attention so older armies can play
      - Marines, marines, marines

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    2. Do you really think that if FORGE WORLD wasn't doing this that GAMES WORKSHOP would put out more items? That would be like saying if Cadillac, a gm company, wouldn't put out new cars that Chevy, a gm company, would be able to put out new models.

      These new books and minis are a good thing to help generate more profit and keep gw going strong, not to mention making a lot of sm fans very happy. If you don't like marines, don't buy them. No one is losing out. It's a win win situation.

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    3. The army I collect didn't exist during the Heresy.

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    4. I'm losing out. When my FORGE WORLD army doesn't get updated because a handful of the Horus Heresy books were really good.

      You ASSuMEd I meant GW but I did not. You ASSuMEd the Horus Heresy books will propel profits but the models were already available and selling like hot cakes.

      Since when did SM fans have anything to be sad about? It's been a few days since their last release.

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    5. - FW rules are far from poor quality and reflect the characters they portray very accurately.
      - You are thinking of GW expansions such as planeststrike. FW expansions such as apocalypse are a ritual monthly or so game for most groups of friends/gaming clubs.
      - FW have no control over the codex of any GW army, they can only add to it. It's GW's job to iterate the rule book and codex's of the armies. Do not confuse GW with FW. FW have their own writers, artists, sculptors and even production utterly separate of GW.
      - Of course its "Marines, marines, marines" its the damn heresy! :P

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    6. As i recall it is close to a year since our last codex...

      The HH is neat but if it is trully delaying other codices that are more "valuable" than thats not good.

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    7. It quite obviously isn't delaying any codex (read above post (separate writers etc)) and it has been perfectly timed (it seems) to be released around the same time as the chaos codex.
      What chaos player could ask for more? A new codex and an expansion that centers on chaos heavily. Its win win :)

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    8. @Dahlvash

      - You must be referring to the Badab series which had many successful characters.

      The army list is crap (and still hasn't been updated). Their latest updates have been crap (read the Inquisitor Lok rules - they're a hoot). And their latest book, Aeronautica, is filled to the brim with crap.

      - Apocalypse is not a FW expansion for one. I also don't believe your anecdotal evidence is even close to average for second.

      - FW produces units for 40k do they not? A rallying point for FW is that they help out older codicies with new units and options. They're not doing that if they're making marines.

      - That's great for marine players. Nobody said they HAD to do the Heresy.

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    10. @atrotos
      You are Sooo wrong
      FW existed Long Before the GW Apoc Book & Before that People were playeing with armorcast apoc-Models like back in the Early 90tys

      Also the releases from FW are meant for Apoc and fluff Players NOT Super comp Players.

      FW does Not Update the Books. They Wright it Thats it! Later some Units are Updated in IA Books but only to Give People more FAIR rules Not to buff stuff. FW only nerfs Ever!!!

      As a noob you should better Not Talk so much BS
      If you dont know anything.

      GW releases are planed Way ahead and the reason we had nö dex so far is becaus 6th ED was on its Way. Its got nothing to so with FW. And er did have nid SW Cron SM & ork releases this Year just nö dex. If you cant Play becaus youre dex is Old Thats youre Bad. L2P noob

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    11. The army lists of the Badab books stand up well in my opinion and it is shameful that it hasn't been properly updated. Though neither have the GW codex's for 6th, as the FAQ's seem to be temporary fixes until a proper release (rumored to be in a few months).

      Yeh cocked up on that one, i was referring to Imperial armour Apocalypse second edition over the GW editions (neglecting that it was GW first).

      FW have stated that the HH books will not interfere with the release of the imperial armour books at all and we should still expect IA books that compliment non imperial armies to be releasing in tandem with the HH books.

      Well the didn't have to do the heresy of course. Tbh, id love a FW 'The Fall' book series of the Eldars plight culminating in the birth of Slaanesh!

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    12. Your poor spelling and grammar are making my brain bleed.

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    13. @ Dahlvash

      Don't you just feel like you're 'being taken for a ride?' 6th is great but it needs some help. Instead I feel like FW and GW are just exploiting the success of Black Library's HH series - getting us to buy models that they ultimately won't support with rules.

      I want more books like the Badab series but with more time invested in rules to match the great story and production. If you can explain to me how the same number of writers can produce double the work without delay please do. All I see is the same names on their site - no new HH Design Team.

      The Fall would be epic and there's so much more the game has to offer than Marines, Marines, Marines - as if genetically enhanced comic-book heroes are all our puny consumerist minds can understand.

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    14. @Anon, "As a noob you should better Not Talk so much BS If you dont know anything"
      The irony of this post with its lack of grammar, spelling and general constructiveness (as well as shameful rudeness). Also the randomly capitalised words make my eyes hurt.

      On a side note, I do hope we see some Imperial grav-tanks, bikes and lets be honest, Squats :).

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    15. Squats! Yessss!

      Also Dahvlash... it appears you have begun to understand the creature that makes an anon. Well done.

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    16. @Atrotos
      Well to be honest yes, I do feel like I'm being taken for a ride, if a little. Theres clear milking from the success of the HH novels (unless this was a masterfully coordinated plot between FW and Black Library). But then again, the novels sell very well, Marines sell very well, the Heresy is arguably the backbone of the fluff, it would be shameful for GW and its subsidiaries not to capitalise on this success.

      On the bright side, once this is over say hello to 'The Fall of the Eldar' (hopefully) and maybe even something revolving around the 'War in Heaven'!

      @JayDee, That Anon was particularly bad :P

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    17. @ Dahlvash

      I hope you're right man but my well of optimism has run dry. To me GW/FW take 3 steps forward and 2.5 steps back. At this rate it'll be my grandkids that'll see frequent updates for all races and fair rules and I wish I were exaggerating.

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    18. Lol
      One Must have too much Time if he cares about spelling. Not every One is english you know.

      And he is a noob becaus he has this premadeup mind that FW is supposed to make his rules better. When in reality that Never happend ever with FW.
      If you dont like the rules now... Nobody cares
      Stop QQing about it.
      I have 5 warhounds that got nerfed
      Thats Warhammer!!!!
      If you havent realised that you Must only be playing for 4-5 years. So to me youre a noob!

      And to think a Company that wants to make max Profit cares about rewrighting some Old Model rules and Wasting Company Time is just naif.
      New Models get Good rules Not Old ones. If youre Army is Old buy New stuff or stfu.

      And stop beliveing FW will fix what GW didnt. Lol :D



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    19. Ha! With spelling like that how could you even afford 5 warhounds?!

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    20. Calling people noobs on the internet? Im sure you have ALL the answers,anon. Please tell us more about how we're all noobs compared to you :D

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    21. @Atrotos, while I do agree with you on some points you make, there are big differences between your opinion and mine. First and foremost, I enjoy painting and fluff construction of my army. Therefore my lists may not be that good, but as long as I have fun I don't care. The HH expansion opens up a whole new world of opportunities for both csm and sm players. I know I'll be fielding cataphract word bearers alongside blobs of ragged XVII cultists with all sorts of iron warriors with more "professional" and "disciplened" looking mortal traitors. It doesn't matter how many times I win or lose, as I enjoy seeing my work come to life on the table. And even if you don't want to play HH, think of all the conversion possibilities!
      And before someone rips on me for being an anon, at least I put down my name

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    22. I dont count Name/URL's as anons. Your safe.

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    23. @sam
      Did you Not understand the Part about Not being english and neither is my phone. + i dont Give a ....!

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    24. @jadee
      A noob is a beginner or someone that behaves like One. The dud i was Refering to wants his fw and GW Models Buffed. And Thinks Hh Release is some how influcting with that. When in Reality History Shows it will Never Happen unless all his models get New sculpts. If you dont understand how Crying about such Things makes him a noob for someone that has been in this Hobby for 16 years. I cant help you.
      But After Time you will See

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    25. Yeah but i dont think Atrotos is necessarily a noob for that. At least "noob" isn't the right word i guess

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    26. Well he doesnt know much

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    27. Wait... are you saying you've been in the hobby for 16 yrs? Please, please tell me you started when you were like 5, because if not, you have no excuse for that petulant, childlike rant

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    28. Hay yuo Are jusmad Becaus DA wil bee First before GW makkes Chaos marines Too they are Going to Be you wil seethey i know This you dont!

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    29. @Obliviate

      I enjoy manifesting my imagination on the tabletop as well but I've never understood why we always seem to have to choose between the units we enjoy and the units that can win games.

      So few entries encompass both and there's really no excuse for that.

      The HH series IS going to give us some awesome models. If they're not usable in normal 40k though I can't imagine what the point of them is. More stand-ins using normal GW rules? Just seems like a shame.

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    30. @ JayDee

      No, Annoying anon is pretty much completely wrong. I don't want my models buffed - I play Elysians/guard, they don't need any buffs!

      My point is on the QUALITY of rules not their strength alone. Things like FW designing planes in Aeronautica with 8 bombs when you can only drop one a turn (derp). Things like the D-99 rules which took 5 years but in the end were 10 lines that someone wrote in 5 mins and made no sense.

      As for old models vs. new: plenty of new stuff from FW and GW is total utter crap and many old models get amazing buffs (Vulture anyone?) without any new sculpts at all.

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    31. So you want that changed for the better???
      How is that Not a buff?
      Lol
      Wake up! Its Not going to Happen
      & not becaus of HH
      -.-
      Make House rules or Play as intended & stop acting like you know how the rules should be. If everybody got there "Updates" like they wanted them everything would be Imba!

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  6. Maybe er will See New SM Super vehicles?
    Jetbikes & Speeders i am Sure
    & a warlord
    They are rumored to be building on it allready so it Could come with the Terra Battle

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  7. Too bad they save the best for last... The Seige of Earth is the best part!!

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  8. ah, great rumousr - I am starting to get excited now. Happy to hear sisters of silence and custodes are in. Glad it seems like it's meant to be played at larger scales too (it IS the heresy).

    Surprises for me are aliens even if a footnote, im happy to have that and did not expect that whatsoever. Also happy to hear each legion getting it's own elite unit, that's another nice surprise.

    Can't wait to see the models for all this stuff.

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    1. Surprised I had to scroll down this far for SoS love. The single unit Forgeworld has for Sister of Battle is actually pretty sweet, so I'll be interested to see how the SoS play out.
      And maybe they'll actually resolve the whole disappearing from the fluff thing?

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  9. I Wonder if this means CSM dex Last???
    Since it would colide with FW Sales of heresy CSMs

    :)

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    1. On the contrary, this brings attention to the backstory of the Chaos Legions which will generate interest in having a Chaos Space Marine army. This won't cannibalize sales of CSM at all. In fact, more people that don't currently play Chaos will be more interested in getting the new Codex.

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    2. Haha people are starting to copy me :D
      CSM is obviously last ;D
      Heresy Era Ultramarines unt DA are first book and Luna Wolves wil be last and be bad so that they will lose like in das fluf :D

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  10. Excited to see what the Emperor's Children are bringing to the table. As the inventor's of the Sonic Weapons, I've got high hopes, though we probably won't see any of that for a while.

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  11. I am just waiting for DA in M.30 and M.41. Tired of chaos being in the way!

    -Hesporos

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  12. They can't make me play Apoc. No matter what carrot they dangle near my face!

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  13. The mention of aliens could be neat.
    Laer models and army that can also be used in 40k? Would be incredibly cool.
    I know the Laer were wiped out by the Emperor's Children but they could easily be brought into the modern setting by warp trickery.

    I'm a huge Emperor's Children fan so I'm looking forward to this even though I do wish that other races got a bit more love by FW and GW (I'm looking mainly at Orks, 'Nids, and Eldar. Tau are doing well still but do need an update)

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    1. Those Armys got a Lot of FW stuff & are playable After 6th Ed buff

      If at all DE & crons need FW Love & some superheavys or tittans

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    2. Necrons are. But not till 2013 according to FW fB.

      Hopefully DE get some nice stuff soon after.

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    3. Like a certain DE bomber...

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  14. Horus heresy is great fluff. Unfortunately this sounds boring. ATSKNF is broken enough in 6th. Making the legions fearless is dull and completely removes morale from the game if you both play a Legion

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  15. Yay! Heresy-era Xenos rules! I use Tau so i can have...*consults timeline* spears...and a brand new (to the tau) invention known as "fire". Outrageous!

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    1. And for my Nids, rules for sitting in space for thousands of years of extragalactic travel.

      On the roll of a 1, the Hormagaunts demand to know if we're there yet.

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    2. @Maeloke, Haha :D
      HH will alienate (see what I did there!) a few races for sure. Could see some Eldar, Ork and some now extinct species show up though!

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    3. Would love a model of the Ork Warboss who had the gonads to face the Emperor in single combat, even of he was struck down xD

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    4. He not only fought the Emperor in single combat, he actually wounded him, and Horus had to help the Emperor!

      Now dats a WARBOSS!

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  16. Too bad my army was still taking their nap during the HH :'(

    Why!!! Necrons in the HH woupd be awesome!

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    1. Actually the triarch praetorians and the Silent King were awake (although the king was probably outside the galaxy at this point). Plus if anyone stumbled on a tomb world, there's the Canoptek monsters to crawl out the metalwork ;)

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  17. Since the Emperors Children already had noise marines at Istvan 5, I wonder if we will get some noise marine sculpts to go with Forge Worlds awesome Deathguard and World Eaters?

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  18. Primarch Apoc?
    Will I get to field Alpha and Omega at the same time!? >:D mwahahahah

    For that matter, think there will be any fluff revelation concerning Alpha? Not called out in the first book so what book will it be in?

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  19. Silly Anon here. I'm not very comp savy. What do I need to do to be a non anon? ;)

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    1. Join this site at the top left.

      -Hesporos

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  20. For everyone saying " Id rather have xenos or something released by forgeworld as opposed to more
    Marines" it was stated (when all this horus stuff first dropped) that this was being produced In congruently to normal IA releases, as to not impact the series.

    It's in a couple of rumor pages back about this

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  21. To be honest I'd prefer that FW would concentrate on sculpts over rules. Too many people have issues with FW rules but the models are awesome. As someone who makes conversions just to have a unique tabletop presence it's nice to have more things to work with.

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    1. This. I'd love it if they scrapped the whole HH series of books and focused just on making the models for it. Make the Primarchs, make some legion-specific conversion kits, and move the heck along.

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    2. Forgeworld actually has very solid fluff too, but man, I am not interesting in playing with any of their stuff

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  22. Anyone see the same "flyer" in the middle of the picture? Is that going to be how the Tempest looks????

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    1. That's just a landspeeder, but the Tempest IS based on the Landspeeder profile. The only difference as far as I know is that the Tempest has an armored canopy instead of being open.

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    2. Dude, the tempest already exists! This is how it looks:

      http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine_Aircraft/LAND-SPEEDER-TEMPEST.html

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  23. Look at it this way guys, with the HH being forgeworld and the amount of people that will be all up in it's grill (spess mehrines) it may force GW to truly legitimise Imperial Armour and Forgeworld rules :D

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  24. Maybe I'm missing something here but the book only has rules for 4 Traitor Legions - who are they going to fight if there are no rules for Loyalists? Will we have to wait for a second book?

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    1. This is Istavan III, where the four traitor legions fight loyalists among their own ranks.

      http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Istvaan_III_(Isstvan_III)

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    2. There's a generic set of Legion rules and then special rules for the 4 specific Legions presented.

      You can play any Legion out of the book, it just won't be as characterful until they get their turn.

      Same as playing Charcharadons in the Badab campaign before book 2 came out.

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  25. I'll get the book and atleast all the primarch models. But starting a new army of space marines of 2-2.5k points?
    No, I don't think I'll do this, especially because even if its a "hit" the playerbase will still be extremely small. And don't even get me started on the cost of buying marines + upgrade packs and all the other stuff you nee.

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  26. I think the Upgrade packs are the most exciting part of the whole thing. Here we could have great ways of adding extra detail or alternate parts to create a new look for our Space Marines. A great way to customise your miniatures I hope. Much like he Terminator shoulder pads it is down to personal taste and choice.

    I am intrigued by the concept of the Legion Book but I won't hold my breath. I will await the product actually existing and being in my hands before I judge it.

    Anurien

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  27. This looks really nice and I just hope the White Scars list will be good. They'll probably be last though.
    BTW, This is how I see the books and which legions they'll have:
    Book 1: Istvan 3: world eaters, luna wolves/sons of horus, emperor's children and death guard (as mentioned above)
    Book 2: Istvan 5: Raven Guard, Salamanders and Iron Hands + additions to armies from previous book
    Book 3: Istvan 5: Alpha Legion, Word Bearers, Night Lords and Iron Warriors
    Book 4: Prospero: Space Wolves, Thousand Sons and Sisters of Silence
    Book 5: Calth: Ultramarines and Word Bearers
    Book 6: Caliban: DA vs. DA (Could also be DA vs. Night Lords but I doubt it)
    Book 7: Terra: Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, White Scars, Custodians and additions for traitor legions.
    The last book could be split in 2 books (wishlisting for a separate retaking of Lion's Gate Spaceport :p)

    The siege of Terra book may or may not come out at around the same time as the black library book for the siege of Terra.
    In my mind this would mean the series will conclude in 2014 (first book about istvan 5 came out in 2007, 7 years between istvan 5 and siege of Terra, so perhaps BL wants us to experience the waiting that the defenders of Terra had to do.)

    Note: these are just my thoughts, so don't accept these as true.
    Spiderdrol

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    1. TBH I doubt a siege of terra / emperor vs horus BL will get released as long as the series is successfull.
      Its like the current 40k setting. Progress or conclusion after the "there is only war atm" situation is not wanted as long as the stuff sells.
      So prepare for a few years more of countless books that cover HH sidestories while Horus is somewhere on his way to terra.

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    2. Forgeworld could surprise us here but probably not. I thought the Dark Angel civil war snaffoo was AFTER the seige of terra so here's my train of thought. Yes, the Emperor and Horus's duel was the finale but there were a couple other major events, Dark Angels as mentioned plus the imperial fist's pursuit of the iron warriors...
      But as I said, I doubt there'll be much post-heresy (kinda defeats the point) but I hope they make a Mars/Mechanicum book!

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  28. Horus Heresy just doesn't excite me much and I don't know anyone that has the ability to play Apocalypse, but I am a little curious to see the primarchs, especially Russ. Also thinking the new HQ characters might at least provide some nice conversion bits for my Wolves.

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  29. Marines vs. Marines at 2.5k? Would that not take a whole weekend? My chaos guys fought blood angels last night and I could swear they were all fighting with frying pans. Is it just me?

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    1. I play 2.5k games all the time. it takes some serious slow play to for a game to take longer than 3.5 hours. Most games can be done in 3 hours or less. Last saturday I was able to get in 2 games in just under 6 hours.

      That includes alternating terrain set, bsing, etc.

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  30. Yeah I didn't mention that both of us didn't remember most of the rules and the we could not roll low on our saves. I can see how this game would get a lot more fun once you can just roll and have some momentum in the game. With all the models and loads of rules you gotta get over the noob phase pretty quick, it seems.

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  31. Is there any indication of when the general release for this will be?

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