Dark Angel rumors are now hitting, and this new set comes with soem good information, like a new flyer, new options for the predator, and new special rules for "gets hot" for Dark Angels.

This post has been updated and corrected here...
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/08/dark-angel-rumors-flakk-missiles.html

Please remember that these are rumors. They are translated by google , so its hard for me to double check the translation since I do not know the language (especially when it comes to the first part). I have included the original rumor in the chance that someone can clear up any translation problems.

by Cylon from Adeptus Dorica (translated)
"... The DA codex will have a new choice in bipode heavy media mortis to be appointed and will have two guns.

there will be a new character that ought to choose allies from other codex (called guard?) as a troop choice ...

about the Deathwing I heard something about a box containing two hammers and shield and weapon type weapon nemesis that should give FNP to 2 +

there will be new variants of land speeder ... (And perhaps also one that makes the functions of the storm talon)

the "Blazing Sword" is something that has to do with the ravenwing .... 

The presence of 3 banners that will characterize the army and the command team. 

the DA will have different rules on the use of plasma weapons .. something warming ... to represent the fact that they are experts in using these weapons.

New aircraft is introduced into the codex DA will not be the storm Talon.
the cyclone missile launcher will have an AA if the model remains stationary for that turn.

There will be new options for the predator.

WW AA will have the option as an upgrade and 3 different types of missile to choose before the game.
special character chaplain will be introduced

there will be new psychic powers and will be given space to a couple of new units that are not present in the previous codex.

There are two basic troops choices and not just one.

it comes to AA missile launchers in the new codex .. I do not know, and this refers to the type of the missile destroyers or to those mentioned above.

about the release of the codex is a lot of confusion .. should be the first after the new year .. but when it was planned that the book of HH FW plans have been changed since the GW expects many sales and do not want to risk crossing your outputs gw and Fw. "

Original Text not translated

"...il codex DA avrà un nuovo bipode nella scelta supporti pesanti che verrà nominato mortis ed avrà due armi da fuoco.
ci sarà un nuovo personaggio che dovrebbe far scegliere alleati di altri codex (si parla di guardia?) come scelta truppa...
riguardo alla deathwing ho sentito qualcosa riguardo una scatola che contiene due martelli e scudo e un'arma tipo arma nemesi che dovrebbe dare un FNP al 2+
ci saranno nuove varianti di land speeder... (e forse uno anche che faccia le funzioni della storm talon)
la "Blazing Sword" è qualcosa che avrà a che fare con la ravenwing....
La presenza di 3 stendardi che caratterizzerà l'esercito e la squadra comando.
i DA avranno delle regole diverse sull'utilizzo delle armi al plasma.. qualcosa sul surriscaldamento... per rappresentare il fatto che sono esperti nell'usare queste armi.
Nuovo velivolo viene introdotto nel codex DA che non sarà la storm Talon.
il lanciamissili ciclone avrà l'opzione AA se il modello rimane stazionario per quel turno.
Ci saranno nuove opzioni per i l predator.
il WW avrà l'opzione AA come upgrade e 3 diversi tipi di missile da scegliere prima della partita.
personaggio speciale cappellano verrà introdotto
ci saranno nuovi poteri psionici e verrà dato spazio ad un paio di nuove unità che non sono presenti nel codex precedente.
ci saranno due scelte truppe di base e non più  soltanto una.
si parla di lanciamissili AA nel nuovo codex.. ma non so e questo si riferisce al tipo di lanciamissili dei devastatori oppure a quelli sopra citati.
riguardo l'uscita del codex c'è molta confusione.. dovrebbe essere il primo dopo la nuova edizione.. ma quando è stato pianificata l'uscita del libro di HH di FW i piani sono stati cambiati in quanto la GW si aspetta molte vendite e non vuole rischiare di accavallare le uscite gw  e Fw."


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    1. Wow, thoughtful post.

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  2. DA pushed back to make room for HH sales? Wow, that would be a kick in the pants if true.

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    1. HH is also CSM & lunawolves so that doesnt make much sence to me.

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    2. I agree that would suck

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    3. Kick in the pants only to that DA Anon troll :3

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    4. As if i am the only DA Player -.^

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  3. Must be wrong caus i know DA are next! :D
    And were are my Lion calv.? :)

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    1. Well, i dont get my brazen Knights...

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    2. You're a tard.

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    3. I wonder if Natfka can remove the DA troll's posts? Apart from that, the DA aircraft will probably lend itself to 'sky-wing builds' after all, there's the raven-wing, death-wing, so...wing-wing?

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    4. Do you know what smily :D means???
      Humor? Have you heard of it?
      Or do you hate DAs so much?
      I realy Hope CSM will be underpowered!!! >:D

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    5. The problem is, you are not funny. Your as funny as a sting from a wasp. So smiley all you want, your just an annoying pain.

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    6. You have a Lot of Anger... Maybe you should Not read Things that contradict with youre opinion?!!

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    7. Dark Angels are not next, so shut up guy who always claims they are.

      Also, the FW HH stuff will coincide with the Chaos Space Marines release, and will be far better for sales (and anticipation, hype, etc.) than the Dark Angels release. GW knows this and will milk it for everything it's worth.

      Smart business is better than what a small group of niche-fans clamor for.

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    8. Right, and Forge World Horus Heresy Traitor legions aren't catering to a small group of niche fans. Last I checked this was Warhammer 40k, not Warhammer 30k.

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    9. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1130037 And now that's out of the way >.>

      As a non-chaos player, the Horus Heresy stuff looks pretty neat, regardless of the 10k year difference. Even if you don't want to play the heresy, the minis released will be worth it if the current 30k marine stuff is to go by.

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    10. o i c wat u did thar.

      Well done sir Warlock, well done.

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  4. "there will be a new character that ought to choose allies from other codex (called guard?) as a troop choice..."

    Seems completely out of character for DA. I remember their older rules were the exact opposite, that they couldn't take allies because they were secretive and distrustful.

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    1. Pirate_Prince_NavarionAugust 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

      Does it matter? Before Codex Grey Knights no one would have thought that they are sorceres who slaughter Sororitas in blasphemous rituals. It wouldn't faze me if in the next edition Dark Angels get special bonuses for working with Space Wolves. :D

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    2. Maybe the character's name is Interrogator Chaplain Matt Ward.

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    3. I am guessing! but the last part seems to me as if itwas planned to be released after the first, and Gw changed the date due to the HH stuff. I think they moved it up for release to clear Jan of GW releases as the 2nd HH should be out then?

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    4. I would guess some Kind of Slave Unit. Captured heritics as meatshield! :D
      Only fair DAs get CSM that Way ;D

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    5. It is my opinion that thw sentence structure got jumbled in the translation. It simply doesn't read right. Sounds like we will be wanting to use the dark angel (guard) unit as a ally.

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    6. If they add in Cypher to either CSM or DA codex, I'll be pretty excited. Couldn't possibly be persuaded to ignore mission objectives any quicker than I would if I saw fallen on the table.

      My fluff sensors will go crazy, and I would focus solely on wiping them from the table at any cost.

      -Fred

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    7. Agreed, Fred. If they're back, Ill never win another mission, and yet still walk around with a trumped up sense of accomplishment. Oh, you annihilated that hive world and 15 billion lost their lives? Pittance, I say! I wiped out that 5 man tac squad with the green shoulder pads :)

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  5. I hope they bring back asmodai he was a sweet ass model and i am so excited my birthday is in march so my 30th will rock!!!!!

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    1. oh to be 30 again...

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    2. I'm 30 next March too! :-)

      Hope the Mrs has started saving since GW products aren't getting any cheaper!

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  6. Oh look at that DA anon, your so called Italian source says DA are in the new year.

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    1. Lol :D
      Yeah its my italian conection!!! ;D
      Translation Problem
      He Said "DA avanti avanti!!""
      Fast DAs!!

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  7. Ok, now that the excitement has worn off, little, any able to translate this in a more thorough manner? And I think it will release this year, just nit in the same month as HH.

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  8. The first part talk about a walker similar al dreadknight or dreadnought mortis with 2 heavy weapon.

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  9. I'm half sure that the language is Italian for the original text (kinda like Spanish but simpler!) but I don't speak it well enough to translate myself.

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    1. Yes, i'm italian and you are right! Give me a minute (it's 2 am for me)

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  10. Deathwing with a 2+ save and 2+ FNP?

    Cheese!

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    1. It better be one expensive ass upgrade. Last thing we need is something cheesier than TH/SS termies.

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    2. Prob just melee. Wait for final rules IMO

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    3. To me it doesn't say that at all. Just means a 2+ model with also a FNP sv.

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    4. Even if it's true, Melta and Lascannon shots will negate FNP on them as they are T4, and will suffer from instant death when wounded. TH/SS 3++ will still be the cheese of choice.

      -Fred

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    5. Gulp. 2+ save, 3++, 2+ FnP? No! Amd remener young padawan Not ever army (xenos) have lascannom or proper missle launcher equivalents.

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    6. Didn't think about that JayDee, good point. Don't get to play against zenos too often myself, sadly.

      It just wreaks of OP, gotta be restrictions or something.

      -Fred

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    7. My Archon would have fun with that if the rumours about Huskblades being bumped back up to AP2 are true.

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    8. um TH/SS 3++ and FNP for deathwing can already exist.. with one squad per army...

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    9. We were worried about TH/SS AND a 2+ FnP

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  11. I probably wouldn't trust an Italian source as anyone with access to the rules would be likely to give them out in both English and Italian, which makes this rumor second hand at best.

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  12. Two basic Troop choices? If that commentators correction to the DA playtest rumors is accurate, that's gotta be the Termis, which likely means Belial is out (which would also jell with the above mentioned three diff standards that confer bonuses...).

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    1. If its Termis y Not also Bikes? I would say scouts or rumor is off.

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    2. Fair point, but as it stands Belial is utterly superfluous for 2 reasons: first, in terms of fluff, any da character is a member of the deathwing, and so should logically be able to lead such an army. More importantly, Belial has a vanilla statline. Its his options that make him expensive, but that's exactly what they are-- options. Why not just make them optional squad upgrades instead? the only logic I see to it is that he prevents you from taking two more powerful characters, but currently, all da ic's kinda suck, anyway. So why have him at all?

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  13. I could see Cyclones gaining AA if the model did not move that makes sense to me. I dont see a weapon bestowing FNP....

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    1. To me the cyclone makes sense...

      One of the FW Contemptor Dreds has Skyfire (IA Aeronautica) if it doesn't move which seems to be a balance without further information.

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  14. I'm Italian and I'm pretty surprise to find an half article write in italian! So funny!

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    1. how did google do at translating it?
      fairly accurate?

      asking from a lanuage point of view, not rumour mongering

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  15. This is everything I've been hoping for for my upcoming DA army! I was just thinking how the Stormtalon is so much better than Landspeeders, hopefully that will change!

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  16. Ok, i'm italian so i hope to have done a better job than google translate ;-) (well i've only patched the translation)

    "... The DA codex will have a new bipode as heavy choice called mortis and will have two guns.

    there will be a new character that ought to choose allies from other codex (called guard?) as a troop choice ...

    about the Deathwing I heard something about a box containing two hammers and shield and weapon type nemesis weapon that should give FNP 2+

    there will be new variants of land speeder ... (And perhaps also one that makes the functions of the storm talon)

    the "Blazing Sword" is something that has to do with the ravenwing ....

    The presence of 3 banners that will characterize the army and the command squad.

    the DA will have different rules on the use of plasma weapons .. something about gets hot ... to represent the fact that they are experts in using these weapons.

    New aircraft is introduced into the codex DA and will not be the storm Talon.

    the cyclone missile launcher will have an AA (skyfire?) if the model remains stationary for that turn.

    There will be new options for the predator.

    WW will have the option AA (skyfire?) as an upgrade and 3 different types of missile to choose before the game.

    special character chaplain will be introduced

    there will be new psychic powers and will be given space to a couple of new units that are not present in the previous codex.

    There are two basic troops choices and not just one.

    it comes to AA missile launchers in the new codex .. I do not know if this refers to the devastators or to those mentioned above.

    about the release of the codex there is a lot of confusion .. should be the first after the new edition (then this is an old rumor?) .. but when was planned the release of HH (horus heresy?) books by FW (forge world?) plans have been changed because GW expects many sales and do not want to risk crossing Gw and Fw releases. "

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    1. Thanks for cleaning up the post.

      In regards to the Mortis Dradnought. I believe this to be true. Mortis lascannons are always out of stock on FW site. They recently updated the FAQ so it gains Skyfire and Inceptor while stationary, giving more credence to some of these rumors.

      DA Anon, please stop being so annoying. You ruin the ability for anyone to have a coherent conversation. The childish remarks serve no purpose.

      -Fred

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    2. DA ARE FIRST! There is no finished CSM! Its all about sphess mehreens! Forget those spikey emo sacks!

      ~Mark Wells

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    3. Thanks a ton, though now that you translated it far more accurately, I'm very doubt filled. If the last paragraph is right, then it would mean that Dark Angels would be October which I would love, but it would run counter to the vast majority of the rumors.

      I'm still hopeful that the Land Raider Ares goes official in the new codex.

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    4. In all it's 300 point glory.

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    5. Hell, I'd field one, not in a competition army, but in the relaxed games I normally play. Av14 Demolish with PotMS for 12" move & shoot, Hell Yeah!

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  17. I am also wishlisting the ares. It wasn't in that massive leaked list, nor is there a fw model so my hopes are high. I can't see them adding another da specific flyer tho. Seems like they would push ravens and talons.

    Stoked about asmodai coming back.best ic da ever had.

    I can see them doing somethingweird with fnp for dw. They are all about lookoutsir deathstars now.

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    1. But if there's a fancy new flyer everyone will buy that! Especially the DA people that will catchnshiny new model syndrome.

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  18. Someone above speculated that they might add a flyer wing. I think its much more likely that their unique flyer would be tied to the Ravenwing. If I was trying to differentiate the Dark Angels flyer from the others I'd give the DA's something that could insert the Ravenwing into the battle. In the fluff of the 4th Ed Codex inaugural battle report the Ravenwing were inserted by drop pod and in the Codex art they have Thunderhawk's overhead. I feel like the seed is there. Of course, I'm just wishlisting too, but I think it'll be something to support the Ravenwing at the very least.

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    1. I think drop podding bikes is a bit extreme.

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  19. There is a land speeder chariot- like thing too.

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    1. It is. Its either a bike or speeder type. I dont know. Supposedly SC can take as a Dedicated Transport.

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    2. Here's a wishlist for ya. Sammael unlocks bikes as troops. Bikes take special flyer as dedicated transport. > necron airforce?

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    3. Logan is back! Wrong place probably, but would you care to divulge any new Ahriman tidbits?

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  21. How about Cypher being the new Character so that a fallen DA list can be done?

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  22. i am italian and i confirm that the translation is a good translation :)

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  23. Isn't the Ares heavily nerfed in 6th? As far as I can tell the side flames are now useless (not pointless as contribute to the 300) and with gauss and hull points not sure a regular demolisher wouldn't be more points effective?

    Btw as an owner of a custom built Ares, realising this with 6th was very upsetting! I will still use for fluffiness alone, but shame:-(

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    1. How mamy armies have gauss though? One. I wouldnt worry about that unless your playing necrons.

      Then be VERY worried.

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  24. Just in case no one posted it, the translation is
    There is a new character who can take allies (maybe guard?) as troops.

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