The question of this new model from the starter set is finally answered. Its a walker with options for a butcher-cannon or twin reaper auto cannons..... wow. Thats a lot of firepower. Lets take a closer look!

The source for this sent in a correction on the stats. Basically oops sorry it is 12/12/10. I have corrected it below.

via Faeit 212 (a Must Remain Anonymous Source)
There's a rumor floating around that the hellbrute strikes at initiative 1.

I just want to clarify that while it is listed as having a Power Fist and not a Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, because it is a Walker it does not suffer from the Unwieldy special rule, that's why it's simplified in the codex entry.

120 points

It's 12/12/10
Str 6, ws 4, bs4, i4

Multi-Melta / Power Fist (with inbuilt combi-bolter)

can swap the Multi-Melta for a butcher-cannon, or twin reaper auto cannons (which is pretty cool, since that's an entire riflemen in one arm, but with less range), twin-linked lascannon or a twin-linked heavy flamer.
can swap combi-bolter for a meltagun or heavy flamer

Has rampage

Mark of Khorne: Rage USR
Mark of Nurgle: 5+ restore a hull point OR repair immobilized / weapon destroyed at the start of a turn.  Does not let it get back up after having been killed unlike Unholy Vigor.
Mark of Slaanesh: Sonic scream, gives it offensive/defensive grenades
Mark of Tzeench: flame weapons (if it has any) are +1 strength and -1 AP (heavy flamers are AP3... whaaaat)

71 Comments:

  1. Thanks natfka! Can tell you're flat out but wanted to clarify :
    12/11/10? Sure it's not 12/12/10?
    Does rampage replace crazed?
    What is a butcher, cannon?

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    1. Chinese scans have it at side armour 12. Source has it at 11. Source is very reliable, but anyone can make a mistake as well. There's a lot of info there to absorb.

      also a butcher cannon is on forgeworlds models, but I do not recall the stats off hand. I am sure someone will though.

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    2. Butcher cannon: Str 8 Ap 4 Hvy 4 36"
      From the FW website experimental rules.

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    3. That would be one hell of a gun on this thing.

      Another thing I was looking at.... If this thing has 3 base attacks like the chinese leak had....
      Just add in rampage for d3
      plus khorne and Rage for +2.

      Its possible this beast could get 8 attacks on the charge.

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    4. Just a pity it can't get dual butchercannons like the decimator. Dual CCW is probably out of question, too.

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    5. Just clarifying, it is indeed side armour 12!!!

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    6. All dependce on pointcost IMO
      Sounds Good so far

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    7. Points are stated above - seems very powerful for a cheap price too!

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  2. Boo to slow on the submIt :p

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  3. OMG yes. Str 6 Ap3 Thousand Sons Hellbrute.

    Cataphract perhaps? ;)

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  4. Really neat. Thank you for the info, it's good to find out what the new brawler has up it's ceramite sleeve. One question, do we know how many hull points?

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    1. I am assuming 3. The chinese scan had 3 listed. 3 is also most common.

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  5. ooo is sonic scream something new? or is it just the grenades bit the , made me think you get two things with the dedication of slaanesh.

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    1. Sonic Scream is Telephaty psychic power I believe.

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    2. That's Psychic Shriek

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  6. That is one cool model

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  7. are we gonna get butcher cannons in the new codex? Hope so.

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  8. Everyday I check this site, I get more and more excited for everything that is upcoming. I play chaos only, and even I'm excited for the new Dark Angel's models.

    Thank you Natfka, your blog is the light in my day

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  9. I have an erection

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  10. Sounds cool but missing A LOT of the old dread options....is that really all it has?

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    1. Previous rumors suggested more than one new daemon engine. Perhaps the other one will be more cc-ish ala new obliterator/mauler setup

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  11. well, only missing a drop pod for two heavy flamers ap 3 drop fun :-)

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    1. Which kills a 5 man squad then dies?
      Better would be MM + Flamer in the fist, so you keep the options of either flaming a 5-man squad or burning a hole into a vehicle.

      Also with a drop pod and the weapon swap this thing would probably cost ~160ish. Why not get 2 landspeeders?

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  12. I play chaos my brother DA, one starter set each.....

    Twice the chaos fun once we swap.

    Can't wait now.

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  13. Any ideas if these starter kits will be released in seperate packs when the chaos codex comes out? I love the hell brute model and cultists but do not want to purchase the whole starter set to get them.

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  14. Looks like I'm getting the starter set an making some fallen angels with my chaos! Hehe.

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  15. i'll believe these rules when i see them on the page. Seems a little too good to be true, especially from the perspective of the old codex, which is the only verifiable perspective available to me. I just don't believe that GW woud give us rules this good. The inclusion of the butcher cannon also raises my eye brows.

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    1. I agree these are very different to the average GW rules and reeks of forge world I recon this is somebody's fantasy that has been blown out of proportion if it's real GREAT!!! But I'm sceptical...

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  16. Looks really cool :) Is this going to replace the normal csm dread in the codex or will it be an entirely new entry?

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  17. What if this is that daemon engine withe multimelta we've been hearing about? (Wild speculation)

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    1. very likely. If has the Daemon SR, it would get a 5+ invul and cause fear.

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    2. The rumoured Daemon Engine suppose to be shaped like a centaur. I think this is just the regular Dreadnought like the SM one, with a few exceptions on wargear options and rules to reflect the thousands of years of exposal to the Chaos Gods.

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    3. The shooty daemon engine A rumoured to have 2 butcher cannons, for 120 points... I think the giveaway is that this is bs4, and you would expect a daemon engine to be bs3...

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  18. Just a note..... The source contacted me, and the armour value is 12/12/10. Post has been updated.

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  19. Kudos to you and your source. Chaos force looks now as glorious as it should be. Any glues about these swap options - will they be represented as plastic components or are just intended to be obliterator-style swap options?

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    1. Yes, I'm curious about this as well. If they include the options within the Starterset sprues then I can see it could be a decent matchup pointwise.

      Currently with the Starterset it's like:

      "Multi Melta? I don't see any vehicles around at DA. Give me a Reaper Autocannon so I can pump out a few more shots"

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    2. It's the same thing as the AoBR dread. It won't come with the other options in the starter but very likely in the future when the kit is released.

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    3. Or it'll be exactly like AoBR and the Multi-Melta is exclusive to the starter and everyone will inevitably moan about it not being available in the kit when it's released xD

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  20. Multi Melta is still good for blasting terminators or instant death-ing power armour characters!

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  21. Oh... my... god...

    Finally an answer to the psyfleman dread. It's going to be a tough choice between the butcher cannon and the reaper. 4 str 8 ap 4 shots, or 4 str 7 ap 4 twin linked shots. Kinda seems like the auto cannon is the best choice.

    However maybe giving it the mark of tzeentch and making the heavy flamer a flamestorm cannon will even this starter out a bit...

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  22. Hey natfka,

    can you please provide some news on the csm-dex? release in september or not? :)

    cheers

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  23. Fantastic looking model, although im not sure if it will be of much use at armor 12. Any idea how many hullpoints it has Natfka?

    Thanks for all the info! Best rumour site on the web.

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  24. Could this be a dreadnought that is infected with the same virus as the obliterators ? I really wanna know the fluff ... Laffin.

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  25. Does it not have the "Daemon" special rule? Looks Daemonic to me :)

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  26. Ive got a follow up post coming with fluff and more information on the Hellbrute in a couple hours.

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  27. I love it! Looks like an Obliterator and a Dreadnought had a baby :-)

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  28. How many HP or wounds?

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  29. id say more like deffy and vanilla dread plus a uncle oblit and distant bezerker relations

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  30. So will this Butcher cannon/autocannon be part of the kit in the SS?

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