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Horus Heresy 30k Starter Set Details and More



Once the dam breaks, there is often a lot of chatter, and questions running around the internet. There is often a lot of rumor reverb, and often some crazy speculations. Also though, sources tend to feel more secure about releasing information, and this is just the case this morning as Steve the Warboss has been working to bring us a little more information on what a 30k Starter set could mean.

Please remember that these are rumors.

I also find this link and tie over to the Horus Heresy selling a lot of kit crossovers from GW main to Forgeworld. In reality this is an excellent idea, a great marketing strategy to capitalize on what everyone has been wanting, and to cross promote sales.

via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
In the last days, there were some rumors by Hastings, what i can say from my sources:

-The Box  is a Standalone / Starter Box hybrid Gaming Set (like the last two)
-The Box works alone but can be used as a base for Crusade Era Armies.
-More sets will come to give HH player a basement in Plastic
-Legio Mk4 Power Squad box
-Maybe the release of a Termi and a Dread box with neutral designs to combine it with the FW legio specific packs and dreads
-Possible a Rhino I upgrade sprue within a own set
-GW will release only a base of models!
-Sells of FW products in the GW-Shop coming near

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  1. Hopefully any books would also be a little bit cheaper, I wouldn't mind delving into 30K but the price of those FW books is a killer. Maybe we'd get lucky and they'd a few in a different format or campaign specific titles - Tallarn, etc.

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    1. The red books arent that bad. 2 tomes for £50 that give you all the rules from the first three books (minus admech) without weighty fluff. Admitedly, its still a little pricey, but the actual quality of the books is amazing

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    2. Those books do include all the Taghmata Omnissiah rules. All the rules, sans the fluff.

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    3. and at 50 Sterling which equates to about 80 bucks US its less than you pay for two GW codices of lesser quality.

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  2. Certainly wouldn't mind some plastic versions of the early armor marks to mix in.

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  3. I would absolutely flip over a plastic Contemptor. I've always loved those models.

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  4. GW needs to grab the Heresy and max it out.

    I mean, come on Forgeworld is such a pain in a random hole.
    The prices are as high as it gets in the hobby and the quality is way too often below acceptable standards, even more so considering the premium pricing.
    And their distribution sucks too.

    As people loose interest in 40k, as the dwindling player base show, I can imagine the Heresy could reignite interest for GWs space marine battle system.

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    1. Their smaller kits are typically great, it's the bigger kits that have the issues. Big warped blocks of resin that don't fit together without LOTS of work, having to pin and gorilla-glue every little piece together... I get that they want to be selling their stuff to 'advanced' hobbyists, and that's why they price it the way that they do, but the demand is starting to rise for more, but people aren't willing to pay for it.

      That means there's untapped market potential, which is exactly why GW is doing this. They can sell Heresy stuff at lower prices in plastic, get more people into the hobby.

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    2. FW are great at replacing warped pieces, just FYI.

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    3. The GW design team getting hold of the Horus Heresy would be Heresy!
      The different design approach by the team, the lack of "over the top CAD" children designs and the quality of the sculpts and the army lists are what made 30k into a bestseller.

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    4. ^ maybe true. however can FW sustain it's sales like GW has over the last 30 or so years? i don't think so in a vacuum. GW as a parent company has proven they can if they dedicate the resources it's not only possible but it's viable as well.

      either way i am a fan of plastic FW made by GW.

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    5. Of course 30k should stay what it is now, it should still keep the game and model vibe that makes us choose it over 40k.

      Id rather hope for a 40k like distribution in retail and/or GW stores, maybe nice boxes ? army boxes ? ramped up release schedule ? plastic stuff ?

      Please grab this opportunity.

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  5. this would make loads of sense, actually. FW is already selling chapter specific bits for all of the Heresy-era legions. all GW would need to do is produce the "base" kits in plastic, and one could mix and match. that said, FW is already producing the "base" kits but (IIRC) in resin. perhaps this means the popularity of the Heresy-era base kits has been significant enough to justify the investment in plastic molds.

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    1. Or perhaps the inverse is true; the generic marine kits aren't selling as well as the legion specific stuff/characters/vehicles etc even though they are the core of any army. Produce them in plastic and it removes the additional cost hurdle to get basic troops and helps people get into them. SO many 3rd party options that are cheaper, plus the regular 40k marines.

      Plus if it's just an 'old' mark of armor it's still 100% compatible with 40k.

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    2. as a marine collector whom has close to 400 (and growing steadily) marines from GW and 0 resin ones from FW is evidence (no matter how anecdotal) that GW marines outsell FW marines. if it is similar with other people (GW marines are one of GW's best sellers) then it'd mean it's not inverse.

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    3. What you said actually supports the inverse theory. 0 resin marines means you haven't been buying FW basic infantry kits. If this is true for other then plastic 30k basic marines would be more enticing, no?

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    4. yes. 100% yes i would buy plastic 30k instead of 40k and maybe be tempted to buy into more stuff. i was burned hard by other resin miniatures in the past that i have zero faith in FW resin. if other gamers,well collectors did have an avenue to buy into FW but had another material to work with (hard plastic more or less GW standard would be great, as it is simple to convert or use and repair as is) so if FW indeed does plastic or allows GW some production on 30k units in plastic then being an avid marine of all flavors collector they would gain more money. more than they currently do and i am running out of space for the collection i have now more or less (amassed over 20 something years). so that does show atleast one person (me) would like to see this happen. if it doesn't then i'd still collect current 40k marines of all MPPK variety. but if they do then they not only gain new consumers to 30k but they might even entice other new people not into wargaming but don't like current plastic marines but dislike the xenos/chaos armies but FW looks cool but virtually unobtainable compared to GW.

      also looking back on it, well it does support the inverse theory, but it also supports the opposite theory hypothesis "wherein a theory of opposing merit on the internet must be granted equal internets" (using humor to agree ....well partially...kinda)

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  6. "GW will release only a base of models"? what does that even mean?

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    1. Basic kits, but you can buy Specific add ins. For instance, MKII armor and then Alpha Legion shoulder pads.

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  7. Has anything leaked about what will be able to be preordered friday?
    Shadowseer, Deathjester okay, but will there be a Harlequin army-box?

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    1. Yeah, I am surprised images have not popped up already.. Hopefully soon. :)

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    2. I thought with all the Ends Times leaks that it would be End Times.

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    3. Haven't found any yet .. but I did see this and it really made me laugh:

      http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/veteran-of-warhammer-40000-conflict-struggling-to-come-to-terms-with-it-2015021795428

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  9. Just so long as the actual design of the books, rules, and models stay within the FW design team. (I don't mind if they get put across into plastic with lower prices, but I want the general aesthetic feel of the range to remain). Because one of joys about HH is that both the fluff and the crunch (For the FW books. BL is dependant on author) are really good. Something that's been lacking from the main game imo. And if they don't like the studio (And namely Alan Bligh) have executive creative control over 30k, then it just goes the way of 40k and we know how that ends.

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  10. When they said 'stand alone' I first thought a historical Zone Mortalis game in the recent Space Hulk style. Push together minis they made and kept resources for a normal model release later.

    Then others mentioned an End Times style release, perhaps not as large or long. Just something that shakes things up that allows for a new game mode like how ET has their own rules for the events from them. Maybe time travel shenanigans or 30k/40k crossover.

    Then all I could imagine was a shadowy chapter master upon his throne in the chapters monastery saying:

    "The Codex has failed us. Recall the Successors. We are Legion."

    And now I can't stop wish-listing mentally.

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    1. I want this to happen :p that would be an awesome 40k end times scenario,the shit hits the fan and the legions reform,maybe even some primarchs return =p

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    2. I want this to happen :p that would be an awesome 40k end times scenario,the shit hits the fan and the legions reform,maybe even some primarchs return =p

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    3. The many distinct chapter cults would be a huge impediment to that happening though.

      Also, not all the successors are so buddy-buddy with their parent chapter.

      It would make for an interesting scenario nonetheless, but I doubt a reformed legion will be anything like their predecessors.

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    4. Except the Dark Angels, those guys are obviously a Legion in everything but name.

      Maybe the Ultramarines too, many of their successors are loyal to Macragge to a fault. The Genesis chapter in particular, they're practically Ultramarines reserve. Guess the Codex isn't as infallible with regards to organisation as they believe.

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    5. I suspect Raven Guard wouldn't have troubles either. They operated in anything from Legion scale to essentially chapter strength and even small squads operating months on their own. It would just be like regrouping all the strike forces.

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