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30k (The Horus Heresy) Going Mainstream and What it Could Mean



We have had recent rumors revealing a Horus Heresy (30k) game coming in a few months. While we dont know much about it, the latest is that the models for it will become part of the 30k range, and take the place of LotR/Hobbit in stores.


Other rumors have renewed the licensing for LotR/Hobbit for another 5 years. These two rumors rather go hand in hand, since supporting the game (carrying it on the webstore, and possible releases) are most likely desirable. So we would most likely see Lotr/Hobbit moved to online only.

What this does is really open up dedicated store space. The Games Workshop made 30k could eventually fill these spaces left vacant, or they could gradually remove LotR/Hobbit as the 30k range grows. However the exciting part (the mythical unicorn), is that it gives us the possibility that some Forgeworld could be at the stores.

This of course has problems as we have discussed to death in the past, with production mostly, but carrying the Horus Heresy books, along with a few other kits such an unreasonable thought at this point.

here are some of the recent rumors regarding what the future holds for us.

Compiled by drbored based on Hastings recent rumor releases.
-In No Particular Order-
Adeptus Mechanicus Codex & models (full release) - April
Genestealer Cult Codex & models (Harelquin sized release)
Deathwatch Codex & models (Harelquin sized release)
Horus Heresy Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of 30k range - Mark 4 + Cataphract armors featured.
Assassins Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of the 40k range.

Also of note:
Greater Daemons all complete
Dark Angels later in the year
Tzeentch later in the year

Note: Some may not be this year, but early next year.


via 75hastings69 on Warseer
As I previously said I am lead to believe it will be a main range (30k) and will take up the shelf space from lotr/hobbit. I think continued support is pretty much a given.

Don't forget once this standalone box is off the shelves/website the contents (models) will for boxes for the main range. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were in a similar fashion to the recent Deathstorm components.




So what do you think? Will Forgeworld finally break into the GW stores main ranges with the Horus Heresy? Its wildly popular, but Forgeworld production has never been enough for that kind of distribution.

Personally I would love to see some of the basics become available... like the Contemptor Dreadnought.

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  1. Will plastic 30K not cost BOTH a liver and a kidney? Maybe just one or the other? I mean, Forgeworld models are beautiful and all, but selling infantry and weapons separately is just ludicrous.

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  2. HH in plastic would do wonders with the whole system of stuff as they can get away with just useing shared kits on some things anf then have upgrade packs for others (like old pattern rhino, ect). FW hit a gold mine with HH and rolling out in plastic as a main store game would open it up to a lot more players

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    1. Exactly this. GW providing the plastic backbone, FW with Legion-specific and specialist units and upgrades.

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  3. I'm not really interested in playing 30K, but I would buy Mk II, III, or IV armor in a heartbeat for my Veteran Astartes. In fact, I think GW would get a lot of business from 40K players who want to add more variety to their armies.

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    1. Not only that, but I also think that many a player would love to see plastic Contemptors...

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    2. Except Contemptors look Soooooooooooo stupid. Trash cans with pipes for guns? No thanks. Much prefer the heavier, sarcophagus look of the contemporary versions.

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    3. Trash cans with pipes not referring to the boxy versions? Afraid you're in the less populated group on that one. By along shot I'd wager.

      Contemptors are the hotness and I bet they would sell like hotcakes.

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    4. As much as I hate it, I'm with McDoogle on this. Contemptor look like marines stuck in a washing machine... The new deredeo, (sp?) however....

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    5. Also agree Contemptors are a special taste and not for me. Though the Iron Warriors one with all that detail and iconography can't be denied it's beauty.

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    6. to be honest it doesn't matter what your preference is. if they provide both the Dero dread and the Con dread then that'd be cool. if they re-release neither in plastic...Meh.....pass.

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    7. Why haven't you just bought FW Mk II, III, and IV kits for your vets already?

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    8. Contemptors look amazing, so I'm definitely looking forwrad to seeing them in plastic, along with Cataphract Terminators and Mk. III-V power armor Marines.

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    9. I haven't bought the Forge World Heresy-era models because I'm not willing to spend $36 + $5.40 shipping for five Tactical Marines that don't include weapons or any extra bits, plus the hassles of resin. I want older Marks of armor, but not that bad.

      Given the positive reaction this rumor is getting, I doubt I'm the only that avoids resin models.

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  4. I think the contemptors look a bit more Killy than a normal dread. The normal dreads (while still cool) look kinda like a box with arms and legs. The contemptors look like an evolution of the centurions

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    1. You mean centurions are a devolution of contemptors

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    2. Contemptors also look like like they can move at more than a hobble across the battlefield

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  5. Wait... does "Genestealer Cult Codex" mean this is a sub-faction of Tyranids then for 40k?

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    1. Lexicanum article= http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Genestealer_Cult

      Genestealer cults open quite alot of opportunities... for example, a civilian vehicle kit which could be used for Genestealer cults, chaos cultists and ork looted vehicles.

      This sort of thing means it could be a fully fledged army using existing vehicles (chimeras, looted russes) but with their own troops and HQ's.

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    2. I can see them being an ally for Nids.

      Model release will most likely be along the lines of:

      -Cult Hybrids kit
      -Genestealers kit (ymgarl options?)
      -Cult Limo transport (will most likely be different now)
      -Patriarch Clampack
      -Magi Clampack
      -Broodlord Clampack

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    3. come the apoc for imperial factions beside imperial guard.
      deseperate allies: chaos space marines/cults.
      BB: tyranids, imperial guard.

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    4. They'll probably be like Imperial Knights, Inquisition, Legion of the Damned, Militarum Tempestus, and Harlequins. A miniarmy getting a codex treatment but intended either for smaller games or to be taken as an allied force.

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  6. With Harlequins, Adeptus Mechanicus, AND new Dark Angels this year, this is going to bankrupt me as I run out of internal organs to sell. Maybe I can start a trust fund (care to donate?) or canvas the neighborhood with a fund raising campaign.

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    1. Kickstarter? If people will back a potato salad you stand a chance.

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    2. New DA this year? I havent seen any info that verifies a new DA codex is coming anytime soon. Im inclined to say DA and CSM will get some formations and thats it.

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    3. Potato salad? Or cookies. Everyone likes cookies.

      See above re: Dark Angels later in the year. Like Harry, what Hastings says can be taken as a memo straight from the GW CEO and verified by electronic forensics.

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  7. I think it has the strong potential to ruin the game environment. For better or worse, with a larger number of people playing 30k comes a greater sense of competitiveness; that's fine but the game is intended as being more representative than competitive. That makes it easier to break. Right now its less of an issue since its mostly marine on marine and pretty easy to balance the few distinguishing rules but as things progress, more factions are added and the Imperium and Horus allied factions become more divergent it will make the rules more prone to gaming-the-game for advantage. Even only 4 books out you hear it and see it more and maybe things will just go that way over time regardless of the rules. In all likeliness the trend of seeing more and more forum threads on "what's the best..." hurts the point of the game being even less about that the 40k.

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    1. well i strongly disagree. as is it my right like it is yours to believe it will ruin either or's in game balance. personally i believe it will add to both game "system/universe within a universe" in a positive way.

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    2. Jeffrey - that side of Horus Heresy existed as soon as Alpha Legion, legion, rules were discovered. Which created the most horrifying plasma pistol totting guy in the game :P. Of course, not so broken now.

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  8. Dear GW

    Please listen to Forge World and help in any way you can to bring prices down for Heresy. However, please don't take this line down the routes of Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40,000 - making cheesy models (Lord of Skulls) or destroying the lore/fluff (End Times). In fact GW, don't touch any of it. You will only do it wrong and ruin it.

    Thanks

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    1. that's where you are wrong dude. if they ruin it. then it is their business. not yours. truth hurts i know. fact: GW can do what it likes with FW. it is the parent company. they own everything FW produces IP wise. so in a way they can ruin it if they want to.

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    2. Dear Renegade

      I fear you have misread my mock letter to GW. In your response you have stated 'if they ruin it. then it is their business. not yours.' My letter was asking them not to ruin it. Not that they can/will if they want to. I also feel as though it is my business as a paying customer who deserves an opinion. Thanks for your response though dude.

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    3. Why has End Times ruined the lore/fluff? It's actually a really solid set of books, which keeps tightly to the lore, but it has changed up certain situations. Even ones I never expected to be changed! But it's been done well :)

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    4. I think most fans are upset with most of if not all of the following:
      The death of Lizardmen (in effect)
      The merging of Elves (didnt see that coming)
      The future (no support to existing armies due to 6 *new* factions)
      It all started so well, feel that it lost its way after book 2.

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  9. Wait a minute... GW said they weren't doing an End Times for 40k yet because there are so many historical battles that haven't been touched upon yet.

    GW doing plastic 30k might mean they are getting them out of the way so they can move on to End Times 40k in a couple of years or so.

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    1. 40k is the End Times. Minus the crazy 1000 point epic heroes in WFB.

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    2. Superheavies are. And there's no limit for them :D

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    3. I just don't think its going to happen, So far the 30k idea is based of someone saying there will be a Historical boxed game. And its been interpreted as 30k. I feel the context of that word Historical has been lost somewhere. Is it Historical to the lore? Or to the range? Is this a Mordheim or possibly Gorkamorka box? Ontop of this I'm sure FW said no FW stock in shops.

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  10. I Want FW things but only if they come soon enough to use with escalation before its updated lol

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