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Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition


This is a hard set to dig into, and its not completely understood whether this is a collection of rumors, or the sources own information about what is going to be happening this summer when the new edition hits.


Please take this with a little extra salt, and remember that these are rumors.

via Ikitlagriffe on Warseer
I summarized here everything I lately collected, and you seem to ignore or misinterpret. I am not paid by anyone to deceive you. I’m the most confident about aesthetic and visual questions, and about skaven stuff. Friendly.

Anyone who wants to know what there is in V9 has to imagine that this is the V8 ; it will be 90% right.

Rule changes have been made to stabilize and streamline some points, particularly at the formation units and their interaction with the characters, from what I was told.

About the armies that follow (“factions” J ) : they won’t be "bundling" of existing armies, but almost all new prospects. These are all new units with an aesthetic different from what we knew and new historic lines, new characters, we could almost consider some of them as new “races”. Nevertheless, each new release will be integrated into one or more pre-existent conventional armies. Some new units, for example, will just belong to “Forces of Order” or “Forces of Destruction”. No stress. You can keep your old collection (all your collection), and enjoy with it.

V9 will not be just one book, but a box with other things such as a volume focused on two types of battles : clashes "lord of battles "in standard format creating links between games, and smaller battles with “pre-organised” armies (that's what you took for a skirmish game I think).

About this “skirmish” game: I’m not completely sure about that : this has taken many different forms over the settings but it seems to be one of the most tested aspects in recent years by GW teams. It is not intended to be the main way to play Battle. Currently, forces will be selected from a list of predefined choices, more restrained that the currents army books, without worrying percentage points, points themselves will not so important anymore: it will be destabilizing for the old players, but the number of miniatures contained in a unit or its point value could be no longer as important as before in this system. Players would have the choice to comply or not the points. A book will summarize the possible choices for all existing armies. It was thought just for fun, and almost all special rules of existing models could be ignored because of it.

About round bases : there would be a misunderstanding at this level too. Some Warhammer miniatures will indeed now sold on round bases, but it’s the consequence of some simplified rules and not a transition to a new system, or 40k-like, or I don’t know what. No link with the new “skirmish game”. The elements attached to units will be on round base (as skaven regimental weapons or dark elves cauldron of blood for example, but also characters according to pictures I’ve seen), are no longer joined the unit but move next to, and may have a round or oval base. But if your old version is not on a round base, you can still play with, no problem.

About “waiting” armies : for the bretonnians, there is a book that will follow this year, but perhaps we can’t call this “army book” because it will be very different from what you had until then. It will be closer from the End Times books recently issued. There will be in it new units, which could join the Forces of Order, and very close from a Bretonnian army, but not only. For the Skavens, the amount of new stuff approaching is just unprecedented (although I have no visibility on dates). It won’t be really “skavens” as we knew them, but a sort of evolution type very nice and inspired. No merger with Chaos for them (anyway, no merger for anyone!). About Beastmen, they don’t have directly the same processing, to the best of my knowledge, but no doubt they will benefit from a wealth of new opportunities for chaos. I had no evidence that it’s matter of squatting them, nor nobody else.

The quantity of new stuff for Battle will be just incredible, if all that is planed comes out. New releases will be essentially new entries, unique monsters, characters, and elite units of 2 to 5 figures. This will change progressively the overall appearance of the armies, with fewer miniatures (but larger). There will always be a place for large infantry units; however I don’t have a precise view of the new rules, that's why I can’t say if it will always be interesting to play big infantry units, or not.

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  1. This is more or less what I expected. To me, as someone who's only just getting into Fantasy, this is progress. My store is doing a Tale of Gamers, and I have an army with nothing but chaos chariots and hounds at the moment, so this is totally fine by me. I'm interested to see what the war machines and characters being on round bases will actually mean. Perhaps characters will only be used in shooting and challenges from now on? That would be quite radical, but I think it could work if it was still possible to shoot/cast magic at them.

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  2. Starts of by insulting people!
    Credability drops to 0.

    Must agree with Thomas. A lot of the fantasy rumors are pure trolling.

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    1. That was I was thinking. Starting with essentially saying "you idiots" doesn't bode well for the credibility for what comes next. So I ignored this one.

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  3. Sounds almost like 28mm warmaster!

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  5. But that's almost exactly what the most people are fearing.

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    1. Well I'm a bit sceptical really as it sounds similar to hail Caesar

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  6. *paragraph about round bases*
    oh lawdy i cant believe i forgot this used to happen. Back in ye olden days, tzeentch flamers were a unit attachment for horrors instead of a separate unit, and they were on round bases!

    hell, its still kind of in the game; goblin fanatics are on round bases and theyre a unit upgrade for goblins instead of a separate unit. this round base thing is making sense to me now

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    1. People have also already forgotten the old Lustria campaign setting that allowed all units to Skirmish as a loose-order-drill which could then be switched back into a rank-and-file unit as a reform move.

      I can see Gamesworkshop adding that into the standard rules, combined with the new 50% Lords\Heros allowance and (hopefully) a toned down magic system, you'd be left with a skirmish game that could still be scaled up into the large 3,000 point battles again.

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  7. also, the setting needs a real name. nobody from the WHFB setting calls their world "The Warhammer World" and calling it "The Old World" is painfully generic, and only really describes the part with the Empire and Bretonnia. Whatever planet that Warhammer happens on needs its own name.

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  8. I'm no longer listening to Warhammer 9th edition rumors. Everyone keeps spouting out the "big changes are coming" line whilst still insisting the security of "your books won't be invalidated".

    The current books are designed around the current iteration of Warhammer, which hasn't changed much since 6th edition and when 6th did come along, the fundamental changes to the game required a makeshift army list to accompany it (the same as 3rd edition Warhammer40k). We also have the End Times books to consider, which have introduced some rules changes already which as I would expect are game-changing, but nothing fundamental.

    We heard crazy ramblings about 7th edition 40k - none of those happened. We're hearing crazy ramblings about 9th edition Fantasy and I doubt 90% of that is true, either since if it was - how would the current army books be compatible? Answer - they wouldn't be, not if Fantasy was going to have a fundamental shift in the way it was balanced, played, written and designed.

    The past 6 months of Fantasy has been about adding more diversity and units to it, just as we've seen with 40k - they're not using the End Times to axe great swathes of product because if they were, you could bet your ass Gamesworkshop would've used "Last chance to buy X before they're lost forever" or marked down bundles designed to shift the last remaining stock (I can imagine boxes called "The last stand of Thorgrim" or "Battle for Bretonnia" lol)

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    1. This.
      The End Times garbage is, honestly, garbage. Huge big ugly kits that not many people are buying and huge big overpriced books that not many people are buying.

      Let's just all sit back and wait and see what happens.

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    2. You mean 'your' not buying. By all accounts they've been selling pretty well, and the kit's are some of the best that's been seen from GW.

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    4. +1 Christine. These rumours seem to be trolling attempts and nothing more. No dig intended at Natfka btw, I know he just puts out whatever comes to him.

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    5. well by virtue all rumors are speculation. it is not direct evidence we will see X change to Z. so reading rumors is your choice. until pictures come flooding in we are to assume they are all either real as day or fake as can be. more or less the truth is somewhere in between.

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    6. @ Thomas: how is that different from usual? it's not. only you percieve it is someone trolling. i could say that all rumors are trolls until proven. but who would agree or really know one way or the other with 100% certainty? no one....that's who (either believing or knowing).

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  9. That's it!! I've had it! I've thrown all my Lizardmen models in the grabage! I quit GW and all of my other hobbies to boot.

    OR....

    I keep playing with my armies I have and wait until rumors become reality and then I decide if I want to keep playing. "Take these rumors with salt" is code for calm the #&%@ down and relax. It's a hobby. It's meant to be a fun and relaxing thing for you to do. Have a nice beverage and do some calm painting. Your heart will thank you in 20 years.

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    1. Pretty much, though if it does become true, I do see a lot of people throwing their Lizardmen in the trash, even though they got a fresh update not long ago.

      People get really passionate about this stuff. They spend hundreds of dollars into it, after all.

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    2. guess it's a great time for buying a second-hand lizardmen army!

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    3. i'll buy your lizards online for $0.99c per 1k points. if you think it is a unit smashing deal then give me a comment on my blog (hit my name, find one of my blogs and leave a comment) if you were going to trash them you may as well sell them for the cost of a lifeline counseling session (a cost of a standard phone call)

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  10. My only response is keep track of who is right, who is close to right and who is wrong. So later on we can rate them, the rumors coming forWFB, 40k, and 30k are so scatter brained, laced with salt, contradictory that it is becoming overly polluted with non sense.

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    1. I agree. You can find a rumor for ANYTHING you want to believe. I believe what I see in White Dwarf. That's it.

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    2. Agreed! Well said.

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    3. or, yknow, just ignore them entirely

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    4. Just be careful if you go to another forum that has rumors. If you disagree with the rumor mongers their rabid boot lickers will come to their defense and spam report you.

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    5. ^ didn't you expect that? if not you must be new to online douchebaggery.

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    6. @sixofthoneybadger.
      Well said sir, well said.

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