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Warhammer Fantasy Factions



Warhammer Fantasy factions and how they will end up is a very important topic right now as we head into the next edition of the game. There are some given concepts, that the factions will be rolled into bigger ones.


While a lot of this has been talked about, I believe there are a few new bits in here

Please as usual with Fantasy rumors right now, apply a little extra salt, until we we get something rather solid.

via silveralen on Warseer
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?407604-Warhammer-9th-Edition-Rumor-Discussion&p=7446344&viewfull=1#post7446344
I have more stuff about factions. Usual disclaimer, this is second hand stuff take with a grain of salt etc.

1. Empire Remmanents: Mainly humans, with some dwarfs, ogres, and vampires. Humans units tend towards elite holy warriors (focus on priests, Knights, and witch hunters). The dwarves are mainly steampunk flavored, some of which bleeds into the rest of the faction. Vampires tend towards the human aesthetic, ogres have elements of both.

2. Chaos: all three chaos armies mixed together.

The warriors/humans have the same general design as now, except more obvious demonic gifts. Winged units of warriors was mentioned as an example.

Beastmen will come in more flavors, for example reptilian and avian variations. Also a variety of more animalistic units.

3. Orks/Goblins: More or less the same. They get ogres as per end times.

Also, possible mention of dwarf slaves either as units or as justifcation for some steampunk elements in the army. So possibly a bit more 40kification of the army overall, including more squigs.

4. Skaven: two major changes. First, more warptech, notably more apparent in modeling if not in rules.

Second, lizardmen slaves apparently bound using magic/warptech and mutated.

5. Undead: End times undead. More feral in feel. Beyond that, nothing.

6. Elves: End times elves, slightly more unified in appearence, takes cues from all 3 armies. Nothing much else known.

The last two are possibly due to ignorance rather than an actual lack of changes.

I don't know if any of this is really new besides a couple orc and skaven bits, some of it I read in the round up already but I just put it all down.

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  2. Only thing these rumors are good for is to see WHICH rumor person had any idea about what the hell was going on for a later rumor. I am so done with these by now-just lets get to the 13th pls

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  3. Well lizardmen players will surely be happy to see that all what is left of this race is a bunch of slaves. Good one GW.

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    1. I feel sorry for any Lizardman players but the Endtimes would be an Endtimes without some race falling. Will be interesting to see what happen when the Endtimes comes to 40K.

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    2. games workshop might hear you, they've already destroyed one game system . I blame the chaos players my self , always moaning that chaos should win, well they got their wish. ;)

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    3. The End Times won't come to 40k. At least not as it did to Fantasy.

      Fantasy wasn't making money, wasn't generating interest, and the aesthetic was even dying in popularity as EVERY SINGLE NEW GAME ON THE PLANET that came out in the last 10 years was either sci-fi or steampunk. Even when GW would make a new faction, with a huge release and relatively cheaper prices (see: Dark Elves and Dwarves), they wouldn't sell AT ALL.

      40k is booming, and it's expanding because it's an entire galaxy full of stuff. If anything, we'll just see more of the faction/sub-faction system, and maybe some key characters or Marine chapters disappear.

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    4. bump lizard fly into the space and became a 40k amry :P

      how that would be :PPPPPPPPP

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    5. Well looks like my ogres and dwarves become support for humans or orcs.

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    6. Very true but when they want a massive boost in sales thats when the Wolftime will begin. You can only do the 41 millenia for so long before major change is wanted. A specially after the success of the Endtime series with the model, codex and noval range. It will happen to 40K.

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    7. Hah, ogres and dwarfs being a support of humans just reminded me of one pc game series - the Spellforce. In first game you had different factions like dwarves, elves, orks, humans, etc etc etc. And then in second game it was simplified to join humans, elves and dwarves together (orks and goblins and other nasty stuff as well, but I don't remember much more). It makes me kinda sad;/

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    8. ^ and then GW goes and decides to do it anyway. yep i can certainly see that.....seeing as

      1. no new dexs. proved wrong,

      2. fantasy was getting sales/we both know you don't have sales figures to back up what you are saying, so quit with the fantasy wasn't selling, in some area's 40k isn't selling well so does that mean 40k WILL get ET's treatment? if not then your opinion of fantasy is invalid by default.

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    9. comment @ Mcdoogle (should be obvious)

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    10. make units you need cheaper = more sold.
      make units you don't need cheaper = less sold.

      not rocket science but GW guys are genius's at making money (vanish)...they are so clever they are losing money.....so so clever of GW. i wish i was smart enough to lose millions of pounds (dollars) in revenue/sales.

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    11. Actually GW is still turning a healthy profit every year. Sales and profits are decreasing every year, but they are still making a LOT of money from us.

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    12. We did get reports that 40k was making as much as every other GW product (including WH Fantay) combined. That doesn't give us an exact view of how much WHF makes, but it indicate that it's probably less than half of 40k. How much less? Who knows, but quite a bit is my guess.

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    13. You mean that the space marine range alone was making more than hobbit and WHF. But there was no numbers to support that. Pure speculation by the community. For all we know the WHF range is selling better than 40k.

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    14. There's wrong and then there is McDoogle.

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  4. I like these ideas. Sounds cool. Bring on new edition so I can start to get involved and pick a side!

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  5. Vampires as part of team human, rather than team undead, would strike me as an odd choice if it turns out to be true. Not something I'd rage quit over, but still definitely odd.

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    1. It likely won't be odd once we have the fluff and aesthetic in-hand.

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    2. yeah i can see witch hunters and vampires being bro's

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    3. If the undead ARE like end-times, there'll be vampires in both, which I personally think is pretty awesome. Hopefully we'll also see some chaos vampires. It's not like the witch hunters aren't already bros enough with wizards to be in the same empire as them.

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  6. The less in your face rumor is that the rules are just making a minor jump. So how does the jive with all this nonsense?

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  8. I will keep hoping it's all salt. The last rumor before this one was a glimmer of hope.... this one crushes that. holding out for whatever actually comes out of the gw backhoe.

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  9. if these were true, i would feel very sorry for the fate of the lizardmen army/range, which has always been one of my favourites aesthetically. it seems every other army got off fine apart from them, which is what makes it so terrible i think.

    the idea of avian beastmen would have me foaming at the mouth were i not already foaming from my salt overdose.

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    1. i'd like to see avian beastmen

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    2. To be entirely fair, there already IS an avian beastman, and he appeared in End-Times. There's no excuse for removing the Lizard-Men beyond creative bankruptcy, though. I'm just glad I bought my big lizard before it all got shut down.

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  10. Lizardmen and Skaven gets a huge fart noise and two thumbs down from me. That's dumb.

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    1. Yep fart noise with a follow through. I actually think all this could be likely. Armies with a bit of everything could make it easier to sell the models

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  11. I dunno. All of this sounds like a cheap attempt to bring Warcraft III to the tabletop. Steampunk Dwarves? Really? Where have I seen those before?

    In all honesty, this sounds like a bunch of made up rubbish. GW knows better.

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    1. I once said GW knows better. Then they blew up the planet. My dwarves are hiding in their cases till I see the new rule book.

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    2. Well, they should know better than to copy Blizzard.

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    3. ^ if not then they can kick themselves in the nuts when they refused Blizzards attempts to make Warcraft into warhammer the RTS. if they had of back then there would be no drawback now....but if this is true.....will GW finally be sued and shown their place once and for all......time will tell....it always does.

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  12. My community really likes fantasy, and I really want to get into it, but all these rumors make it hard for me to justify my Lizardmen army that is started.

    I feel bad the grey knights player who rage quit his army when it got a new codex. He also plays lizardmen...

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  13. From what I can gather from all these rumours is that nobody knows anything!

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    1. we have a winner. your prize is 2 weeks respite from negative nancies at the Neganan hotel and spa.

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  14. Sounds like a load of nonsense to me. They just reprinted the Dwarf and Chaos Warrior army books in paperback - seems at odds with the notion they are going to be scrapping them soon.

    I'll carry on painting my High Elves, Ogres and Empire. If I don't like 9th, I can play Kings Of War.

    Though saying this - I hate steampunk with a passion. The small amount we have in WHFB is fine, but going further in will be a total turn off.

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    1. I love steampunk, but not on little midget men with long beards and bad tempers.

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  15. I feel like, all the armies are going to be supported by rules, no squatting of armies. the detachment system in current 40k books will transfer, enticing you to buy certain units from other good/bad aligned armies, in order for you to run special formations, which will give you special rules you can't refuse. Seems to be really selling models for the players who already have it all, in eldar army at least. I can't remember the last time I was dying to field a vauls support weapon

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  16. I can see myself swaying to fantasy more if this happens. Able to combine a few armies I like into one is pretty legit. And if formations of units change from regiment to within 2" I would be more comfortable building them on round bases and woth more dramatic poses

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  17. Soooo, I guess I'm done with Fantasy? No more Tomb Kings, in which I spent a good part of last summer collecting, and I can't use Nagash and Arkhan. Sweet deal.

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  18. oh its this rumour yet again, just done up in different words

    remember, rumours are false until proven with pictures

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  19. Lizardmen slaves of the Skaven?! Bring the salt truck!!

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    1. Toss the rumor in the fucking ocean! :)
      Our proud lizards only bow for one race!

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  20. Right this is only some half baked rumour stuff that's been floating around for ages. ALL CURRENT ARMIES WILL STILL BE USEABLE WITH NO EXCEPTIONS! Please stop throwing wobblers at any silly rumour that crops up.

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  21. At least these rumours demonstrate a keen sense of humour. Chuck in some garden gnomes and ninja pygmies on triangular bases and the joke is complete.

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    2. Ah don't forget the Barbarian Penguins from the Desert of bad rumours!

      But on a more serious note, if half this amount of rumour rubbish was thrown up about 40k GW would probably go out of business over night.
      Why monkeys lay into WFB and WFB fans like this is beyond me, it's almost like it's a better more well thought out and mature game and setting...
      Oh wait it is!

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