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Space Marine Upgrade Packs



While there were 4 rumored upgrade packs, thus far we have only seen two, Ultra Marines and Dark Angels released alongside the Assault Marines. The rumors right now speak of Blood Angels and Space Wolves also getting upgrade packs, but leaks have not confirmed them this week, nor exactly what they are.

So while we wait for leaks to confirm to this week's releases... here is the latest talk on Space Marine upgrade packs.

Please remember that these are rumors. Recent rumors have upgrade packs for both BA and SW, along with Atia's re-directs finding them as well.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/05/re-directs-and-additional-information.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/05/assault-marines-and-other-releases-this.html

via Darnok on Faeit 212
I've been told there would be two more upgrade sets, so UM and DA are only the first half of that. Devastators will be the second kit after Assault Marines. Add a few clampack characters, and that's the SM release. DA will only get a codex and a character (plus this upgrade frame). I don't know whether the older DA upgrade sprue will remain in production - I hope so.

It seems that the other two upgrade sprues are for BA and SW (somebody found the corresponding redirects on the GW-page)... well, weird. Those better be for vehicle bits, as infantry upgrade sprues for BA ans SW make absolutely no sense whatsoever in the current range. And I don't see GW scrapping half of the SW and BA range in favour of two small upgrade sprues.

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  1. Yeah, BA and SW, same stuff as the UM and DA. Not going to say how, but I know they're coming. They don't make much sense at all, at least SW. I guess for Assault and Devastator Squads, the BA bits make sense.

    And they're separate packs, all of them, so that's good. You can buy the ones you want, and not have to pay for stuff you don't want/need.

    Also seems like they'll be in stores for the initial run, then switch to web-exclusive in order to save shelf space.

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    1. And they're $13.50 USD each. Have about ten shoulder pads, three heads, a torso, and chapter bling.

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    2. the upgrade packs are indeed to bling up your assault/devastator kits with ba/da/sw specific bits ;)

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    3. Well, that does make it cheaper and easier to decorate, rather than having to buy more Space Wolf Packs, Dark Angels Company Veterans, Blood Angels Death Company / Tactical Squads, etc. etc.

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    4. @Starchild Exactly. People seem to forget that some people don't already have 10,000 pts of SWs and would like to start them as an army. Buying devestators, assault, etc. and upgrade packs is much cheaper then buying 20 boxes of wolfguard to upgrade the "other" sets.

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    5. the difference with the space wolf ones is that they already have heavy weapon and assault kits with space wolf bits in them. long fangs and skyclaws

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    6. @Adam: Thats the thing, BUT if there are new devestatores and assualt marine kits comming out then there would probably be a market for upgrade sprues again.
      At the same time I would assume GW release Skyclaws and Long Fangs as their own kits with the sprue included. (Since they are "different" in name from the others)

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    7. Very good point; if there's New Stuff in the Assault & Dev boxes then all Marine players will want in, including those with existing funky kits.

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    8. Except.. sw don't have a melta... and are by far the most divergent of all chapters.. more wolfy bits.. yes please!! Anyone who doesn't like it can kick rocks..kbye

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    9. Funky kits. I like your terminology!

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    10. Gie imp/crimson fists and salamander upgrade kit

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    11. Imperial Fists deserve way more love than they get..

      Iron Hands too.

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    12. Whether this is true or not, it's seemed very apparent for a while now that there are 4 main chapters. Maybe if you want all the flashy bits, you should climb aboard.

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    13. Ravenguard?

      At least pretty much every chapter has FW love

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    14. Honestly, Iron Hands, White Scars and Raven Guard are at LEAST as divergent as the other chapters. They're absolutely as divergent as blood angels, if not DA or SW. Their main difference is also in their priesthoods and "chapter traits". Imperial Fists and Salamanders are much, much more similar to vanilla marines, with Imps being basically identical and Sallies only having Forgefathers and better-made tech, that's nonetheless functionally identical.

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  2. My guess is that we will get the old DV Interrogator Chaplain finally as a separate clam pack.

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  3. No DA tactical squad then. Boo.

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    1. I'm not vexed. I've had good success mixing the older Dark Angel sprue bitz with the new Tactical Squad and Centurions. I'm sure the same will apply to the new Assault and Devastator Squad.

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    2. Fair point. And I suppose, seeing as we'll presumably have to mix the upgrade sprue with the normal tac box, this could be a tiny hint that we're getting grav weapons?

      Clutching at straws here!

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    3. That would be a reasonable clutch. ;-)

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    4. Just make plasma not overheat for us and then who needs grav guns? :)

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    5. I just like Grav Gun models + it'd be nice to have the AA tanks. Outside of that I am happy with my Dark Angels

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    6. Yeah, stalker/hunter make sense, as does the Storm Raven, though I don't expect any of them, hope is just the doorway to madness

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  4. still crossing fingers for a clampack techmarine, ideally with optional servo-harness or single servo-arm... and maybe some servitors

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    1. Clam pack? Think big man! We need a complete multipart plastic Techmarine kit with several head and power axe blade options, servo arm options, servitors, and tons of other bitz.

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    2. Why have neither of you mentioned the Conversion Beamer!?! We need that too! :P

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    3. Oh yeah, that bit too. It would need to have all the parts for a Master of the Forge.

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    4. I want a heavy plasma beamer for my DA Tech...

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    5. im actually hoping techmarines may get access to kataphrons in the new dex

      i dont expect them to, but i would love it

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    6. Why not make a techmarine box like the space marine commander box

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    7. cos gw doesnt make kits like that anymore, which is a shame. they were great kits for the time, and if we could get that many options with todays quality of models, they would sell like hotcakes (unless ofc the price is jacked right up)

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  5. Somebody is going to need to come up with a creative use for all those blank shoulder pads everyone is going to have...

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    2. Bean bag stuffing? Or send them to me because I prefer to use transfers.

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    3. On that note star, when you do your transfers, how do you get that little bit towards the top of the pad to lay down without sticking up or wrinkling? I use micro set and micro sol, but always have trouble with that little stupid bit when putting them on shoulder pads.

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    5. That can be tricky, but there is a solution! Make sure as much of the decal as possible adheres to the shoulder pad. Wait until the decal is completely set and dry, then gently scrape the wrinkles away with ultra fine sanding film. When you add your second coat of gloss varnish it should cover up any gaps.

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    6. Also... making a few small incisions with a hobby knife vertically gets them to lay flat

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    7. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/2/26/85701_sm-.JPG

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    8. Yup, as NF notes small cuts allow your transfers to conform to the rounded shape

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    9. Look up MicroSet and MicroSol.
      It makes the transfers soft and they conform to any shape

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    11. I just add rubbing alcohol after I blot the water away. Then use a blow dryer to melt the transfer... which takes away the wrinkles. The alcohol and heat softens the transfers allowing it to confirm to the rounded surface and finally sets the transfer as it cools. NO NEED to buy fancy chemicals.

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    12. I just add rubbing alcohol after I blot the water away. Then use a blow dryer to melt the transfer... which takes away the wrinkles. The alcohol and heat softens the transfers allowing it to confirm to the rounded surface and finally sets the transfer as it cools. NO NEED to buy fancy chemicals.

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    13. I just add running alcohol after a boot the water away. Then use a blow dryer to melt the transfer which takes away the wrinkles. The alcohol and heat softens the transfers allowing it to confirm to the rounded surface and finally sets the transfer as it cools. NO NEED to buy fancy chemicals.

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  6. Funny with my feelings as of late, I was going to buy a bunch of stuff for my DA newly founded army but now seeing that my newly purchased DA codex (1 year ago) is about to be replaced, I am not going to buy anything and it has actually stopped me from wanting to collect a DA army.
    If these fast releases are turning me off of collecting new armies than I can see this happening on a larger scale. GW might be screwing themselves into a niche market production. Where only people who had the army and books for years would be the ones willing to replace it and continue building that army. But how would this feel to new people trying to get into it?? I hope it doesn't burn our hobby out. It's just hard to collect any army with new codexs on the horizon for even things that just got released. Adeptus mechanicus and cult mechanicus Being one boOK in the foreseeable future. Just one example of many but I would like to know if anyone else feels this way.

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    1. IMO, it's a one-off. The 6th Ed codexes were written before the company decided to overhaul their release cycles and philosophies. It's unfortunate and frustrating that my SM codex is revised before I could build half the stuff in it, but I'm feeling secure in the knowledge that it's very unlikely it'll happen in such a quick turnaround ever again.

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    2. I certainly feel the same way that you do.
      I don't like the fact that I may have to replace my marine dex so soon after the 6th ed one.

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    3. On the other side, a lot of it really needed to be reigned in to 7th. Formations, HQs modifying force org, etc. It was definitely in more need of a refresh then the Eldar Codex imo (especially since they just broke it even more...)

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    4. While we wait for McDoogle to say how wrong you are, I suggest that we adopt some flexibility in which books are allowed in tournaments and casual games. No one should complain if I choose the 6th edition Eldar codex in a tournament, for example.

      The previous version of a codex should always be allowed if lack of funds is an issue. I know it is for me! I haven't even bought the new Eldar codex yet.

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    5. Glad to see that a few folks know what I mean. Tough warhammer days when I need to support my family first lol jk but I do agree about letting friends use whatever codex they have :)

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    6. I just purchased the DA and SM dexes less than a year ago.. my feelings are very similar.. not happy about it.. though i knew DA was coming this summer luckily i got that on the cheap for $20usd but almost $60 for the SM was a complete waste of $

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    7. Almost a complete waste, but the background and hobby sections retain some value if you need a bit of inspiration later on.

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    8. I'm actually happy the Dark Angels are being replaced. They were my first army, and let's face it, that codex is terrible. It needs all the love it can get right now. I just wish they hadn't jumped the gun and given us Adeptus Astartes and Craftworld before they fixed the two chaos books (which need it almost as bad as the Angels) and Dark Angels.

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    9. +1 Pain Ted, Starchild, nightfury etc.

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    10. I really like the DA codex; I think that Master Vetock really tried to get a proper theme going for a Chapter secretly defined (that's an oxymoron, right?!) by it's hunt for it's traitors. The new units are all highly mobile, even Ravenwing's fire support. The Deathwing are designed to utterly blapse stuff upon deep striking in off a bike's beacon or has a +1T to take incoming fire before advancing. The air support and Black Knights are designed to work with units on the ground by disabling targets before the sloggers get stuck in. It's a really awesome way to design a book if you're a fluffy player, but can otherwise force other players to suffer if they don't play in that certain way.

      What ballsed the DA (and CSM) books up is everything that followed them providing far more flexible options on how to play. I really can't wait to see the new DA book if it's going to be on par with the Post-Necrons books...

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    11. DW Knights mace smite mode equals D weapon if it's on par haha

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    12. Really, my biggest problem with the DA book is the pts cost on everything. I really want to run a fluffy Greenwing force with seek and destroy (SEEEEARCHIIIIN', SEEK AND DESTROY!!!!) elements from the Ravenwing and Deathwing, but trying to fit it all in below 2500pts is just insanely difficult.

      You end up with one overpriced Deathwing squad and 2 overpriced Ravenwing squads fighting alongside some stubborn vanilla marines with fewer toys =/

      Drop the pts costs and we can finally run a decent combined Dark Angels force!

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    13. I'm on the same page re: fast updates. I see no evidence we won't be getting another edition and new books next year, and won't be buying any new books for the foreseeable future. Maybe if GW makes a commitment explicitly that things won't be updated so quickly, but otherwise I'd rather just stop playing the game than have to buy my 10 armies' books every 2 years. Herald of Ruin Killteam and Necromunda are both free rulesets I can use in the meanwhile. I just don't have the budget to keep up with the books I need to play, especially only getting in a couple tournaments and pickup games a year due to having a baby.

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    14. Dark eldar, necrons, and Dark Angels player bitched about no love never getting a new codex then POW... We got them and updated right away for new edition. We all thought new edition came to quick, but once they decided to change everything they didn't spend ten years updating all codexs... Your problems are just what everybody wanted why you buy your army? I buy armies for models and my armies have been added to over twenty years the new and rerelease haven't been the old 5 new units codexs they are remaking dated kits and giving everybody more models to lust after...

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  7. Maybe, just maybe the DA players might be happy for once;)
    I like the DA but for once ill like to see them get a codex that is at least as strong as the codex marines or not be restricted to just a few decent builds.

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    1. With it being released so soon after Codex Space Marines, I think we will be granted our wish at last. There are just too many aborted versions of Codex Dark Angels that Games Workshop needs to atone for, so I don't see how it could turn out any other way.

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    2. I hope it will be good. It gets demoralizing always playing the game on hard mode.

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    3. If DA do finally get a good dex this could be the beginning of a 40k endtimes. Cypher brings the lion sword to the emperor and the lion returns to his still intact legion and saves the empire... Then everyone gets eaten by the nids. Game over man..

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    4. I hope the banner of devastation is still in the book, i freehanded the damn thing.

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  8. It is possible that the devastator squad is gonna be an upgrade pack for the one that already exists? Just being extra heavy weapons?

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    1. My guess is a completely new set of five models with (I hope) one or two pairs of kneeling legs, and most likely one of each heavy weapon.

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    2. I doubt it.
      I think GW will redo the kit, just as the assault marines.
      What annoys me though is that the Dev box will not come with enough of each weapon. Essentially forcing you to buy 2-4 boxes to get a squad of the weapon you need.

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    3. the upcoming devastator squad is a new kit, like the assault squad ....

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    4. Thanks Atia. Luckily we have places online such as Bartertown, Warseer, Dakka Dakka, etc. where you can swap Devastator bitz to get the weapons you want.

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    5. Yeah, welcome to the club. Just look at the Havoc contents.

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    6. the havoc kit was great when they sold individual havocs with each weapon options alongside it in blister packs

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    7. I'm hoping we get two of each heavy in a 5 man box, 2 boxes = 4 heavy weapons and a full squad

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    8. x1 of each heavy weapons is what you will get. if taking a cue from the new upgrade packs and new mppk's.

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  9. i can hear GW struggling as space marines slowly run out of units to make into plastic kits

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    1. The irony here being they've not even managed that, they've actually remade two plastic kits that arguably didn't need it.

      Techmarines, Masters of the Forge and Thundefire cannons, and a generic Terminator Librarian (possibly a re-release of the Termi captain from the Strike force ultra boxed set if not another) are all things of the top of my head that could have done with being released in plastic. That's not even touching special characters either!

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    2. There's also the concept art of Devastators actually wearing their weapons in heavier suits of power armour, and a ton of Dark Angels stuff that hasn't yet been rendered in model form. (You can see some examples on the cover of the 4th edition codex.)

      Space Marines are GW's #1 cash cow. They will never run out of ideas for them.

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    3. Yup. Khan actually hasn't got a mounted miniature yet.

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    4. Remake the Honour Guard squad with bits for a chapter master in it, perhaps?

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  10. This has actually got me wondering, seeing as there's already Long Fang, Grey Hunter, Blood Claw & BA Tactical boxes...

    ...plus the recent hike in power from Necrons onward...

    ...what the hell have GW put into new Assault & Dev boxes that they think that DA, SW & BA players will want to buy and then icon up thanks to the upgrade sprues?

    That's got to be something fairly decent, for existing players to want to get despite already having their equivalent models already?

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    1. SW/BA are unlikely to get any new gadgets being added in the box, so I think the answer is "cosmetic fluff".

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    2. YOU MAKE ME SAD (and you might be right)...

      ...but there might be WD specific rules adding at least one unit of the (possibly) new Devs & Assault Marines to the BA & SW books? After all with the new Battlegroup Formations the pre-Necron 7E books are sort-of due another update so we might see those in WD at some point too?

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    3. New sculpts, better poses, more detail, more options... The usual. ;)

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    4. Graviton Cannons? More weapon options for the Assault Squad? We'll see.

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    5. Honestly, the possibility of a WD update to existing codices cannot be discounted. It is, of course, impossible to prove a negative, but in this case we do have precedence in the form of Zoanthropes for Tyrannids.

      While there is no way to dismiss the possibility, there is also no reason to embrace it though. It's exciting times for 40k, as the fact we're even entertaining this notion proves, but still...

      (Incidentally, I'd love Decurion for Dark Eldar and other armies lagging behind... and a model/rules for Vect and Lady Malys. The two most important characters in current lore are not represented? Honestly now...)

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    6. Grav weapons. Presumably the DA's will gain access to them in the new codex.
      SW's might be because they're discontinuing the moulds from the existing assault & devastator marine kits that the current Long Fangs and Skyclaws kits rely upon.

      "That's got to be something fairly decent, for existing players to want to get despite already having their equivalent models already?"
      - To be honest a lot of their decisions of late only make sense if you ignore this angle, ie "existing players" and look at things from the perspective that they're asking themselves "how do we get things right for the man that walks through the door tomorrow and wants to start this from scratch?" (Yesterday's man, however, gets the shaft and either likes it or lumps it)

      With that said I'm genuinely surprised they're currently content for Tyranid model rules to be spread over two books and haven't released a new Tyranid codex with all the 'Shield of Baal' unit additions yet.

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    7. Why put work in a new 'Nid codex when people are currently buying double the amount of books in old material? ;)

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    8. @Cylux I think the skyclaws and long fangs boxes will stay for a while. This way they can use up the left over already cast sprues just as they did with the tactical squad in the ba battleforce.

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    9. Could it simply be a mold issue?

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    10. Exactly Unahim, Zoanthropes and the Looted Wagon/Tank/POS for Orks. It's been done...

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  11. Actually where the hell is the new Assault Marine info if they're up for pre-orders in 2.5 days?!

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    1. If they aren't changing at all then I can understand why a rumour source wouldn't bother to mention it.

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    2. But then why a new box at all, unless it's exactly that - a repackaging?

      I mean, Assault & Devs have been specifically mentioned but no further info as to the extent of any changes...?

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    3. Maybe GW just thinks the spesh mahrines aren't pwetty enough.

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    4. There was a grainy image of some assault marines standing on bits of rouble. So it is definitely a new kit. I bet they will repackage the tactical, stern guard and vanguard squads with 32mm bases though.

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    5. @Mauler: I meant, if they aren't changing ruleswise. The new models look like a vast improvement over the previous version.

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    6. But whhhhhhyyyyyyy unless there's new options? :'(

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    7. They have an Eviscerator, so that's at least one new option.

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    8. Yes!! Where's the rules from WD?! There's been some slackery this week!

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  12. If you've ever actually used the current assault marines they are terrible! I cannot wait for this release!

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    1. I don't agree, 5 marines in a drop pod with 2 flamers for 95 points is totally decent, you basically get the marines for 10 points each

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    2. terrible sprue or terrible in play. i would disagree with both- but meh i won't (though i certainly don't agree on either point of being terrible)

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  13. Why Wolves and Blood Angels? Why no Salamanders or Raven Guard?

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  14. Looking at the new white dwarf issue 70 and I can confirm ultra marines upgrades blood angel upgrades space wolf upgrades and dark angels upgrades also space marine assault squad corax white spray (white undercoat spray) ultramarines transfer sheet, blood angels transfer sheet and dark angels transfer sheet these are huge color transfer sheets with banners and icons over 700 transfers on one sheet.

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    1. WOW transfers and upgrade sprues all hitting at once. Christmas has come early. Now if only I could find some money...

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    2. Also if you have any pictures or could get some that would be GREAT.

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    3. I could take pics but no where for me to upload them too...

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    4. send me an email cordon.citadelofpaint@gmail.com I will credit you.

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    5. I mean: crodon.citadelofpaint@gmail.com

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    6. step 1: click your own name.
      step 2: create blog.
      step 3: upload.
      step 4: send links
      step 5: go to profile settings and edit, hit hide profile.

      done. now you have a way to upload and a place to store what you upload easily online.

      or just email Crodon!

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  16. I wonder perhaps if they're removing chapter tactics in favore of a more complicated force org to represent said factions. We still haven't heard anything on chapter tactics yet...

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    1. I would bet that chapter tactics will become command benefits for individual chapter based detachments. It would mean that people would have to choose choose between chapter tactics and objective secured.

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    2. Would that mean we can expect new BA and SW books later this year?

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    3. ^ we can expect between 1-4 year lifespans for dex's. anything else is a "unknown"

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    1. as its a multi-week release, im hoping we'll see them next week, alongside white scars, iron hands, raven guard, and imperial fists. they could even be split over the two following weeks

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    2. I hear you brother! I would like to see them get some non-FW treatment

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  18. It would be hilarious if space wolves, dark angels and blood angels were rolled into the space marine codex

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    1. And the codex ends up 300+ pages long and over $100

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    2. ^ nope. same length those rolled into (hypothetically) the vanilla dex would be reduced to about 3 pages max each. then they would (again hypothetically) later on in time (3-18 months) re-release the older kit but at pricier price point and less contents (rules) and more fluff.

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    3. not much changes each edition in each dex. major change is fluff bloat and skeletal rules sections. expect more of the same in the future until 1 page of rules per 100 pages of fluff.

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  19. What about the command squad? It's share a common sprue with the dev box

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    1. One can always hope but since the article in white dwarf this week seems to show the old command squad so I sadly doubt we will see one this time round.

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    2. May as well have something to look forward to?

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    3. I was hoping to look forward too a mounted command squad box.

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  20. also this week - transfer sheets

    http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305237-rumours-space-marines-codex-assault-marines-devastators/?p=4060593

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    1. Thanks again Atia! I love how they have the banners on the transfer sheets now! That beats the hell out of scanning and printing my own onto decal paper.

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    2. thanks Atia.

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  21. Honestly I think the space wolf power armour parts are a major downgrade on the old upgrade sprue anyway. SW are my favourite army, but the amount of parts and fluff that've been added that make them wolf-obssessed, instead of using them as totems, comrades and inspiration, is kind of ridiculous. It's like if they turned Dark Angels into literal angels.

    *looks at blood angels' new characters and sanguinary guard* oh

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    1. BA at least have a winged primarch so it's understandable

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    2. i expected no less than less than old kit. not only less but much less is what we get.

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    3. I never liked the wolf helm. Like there is a wolf in spacemarine armour? Wtf

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  22. I can confirm 100% that the upgrade sprues are coming this saturday pre-orders. Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Ultramarines. And all will be $13.50. Also new transfer sheets for specific chapters. The transfers will include enough for infantry, vehicles and ever transfers for the command squad box set space marine banner

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    1. Oh wow! I want to see the Dark Angels transfers. Any word on any of these new releases being limited edition?

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    2. Seen Atia's link above! They put the Sacred Standards on the Dark Angels transfer sheet! I must have!!! 8-D

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  23. To be fair guys, BA, DA & Wolves got their funky bitz updating simply because Forge World do shoulder pads and stuff for almost all the other chapters. That's why we probably won't see Raven Guard or Iron Hands pads or bits.

    Ultramarines...well, they're just "special".

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