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Dark Angels Advance Orders are Up!!!


Here they are, finally advance orders are up on the Games Workshop site. for Dark Angels. Here is your chance to get jet orders in. You can also follow the link for some 360 views of several of the new releases, including the Dark Talon and Land Speeder Vengeance.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCatsLarge.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k

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  1. Deathwing are 60 a box. What happened to 50?

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    1. Its because it comes with extra bits for command squad, knights, and normal DW. You could probably buy one of these and a normal termy kit and just mix out parts if you wanna save 10 bucks.

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    2. except that the normal DW termis suck now
      you only want to take DKs from now on
      cheaper and more extra rules better stats ect.

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    3. Actually, Deathwing Knights are more expesnive.
      You don't even have a Codex, you can't say that they suck.

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    4. And We don't know if DW knights can be made scoring

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    5. scoring doesn´t even matter
      with old dex DW are hardly comp in 6th

      now you pay more base, more for TH/ss and more for cml. The only good options on. So a squad with like that costs 220 +25 for TH/ss + 30 for cml... thats 275 total

      DK come in at 235 can´t have cml but get free SS and have KG5 T5 mastercrafted and smash. So how are they not way better and way cheaper? even if they are not scoring???

      i´m going to run scouts + aiges for troops from now on :D

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    6. 12$ per terminator is still cheap compared to 25$ per crisis battlesuit or even close to 40$ for the battlesuit comander

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    9. DW 5 termis 220
      44 per model, up to 10 total
      LC free
      TH/SS 5 per model
      10 H.Flamer
      15 Plas.k
      20 AssC
      25 CML

      Deathwing Assault
      Inner Circle
      Splitfire
      Vengeful Strike



      DK 5 knights 235
      46 per model, up to 10
      1 can have Relic of old Legion for 10

      Deathwing Assualt
      Inner Circle
      Wall of Shields
      You Cannot Hide
      Hammer of Wrath

      all WS5 and the First Knight has 3A


      This in the WD :)

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    10. So you're complaining that for 4 points more a model, they gain 4 special rules?

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    11. 2points

      and i´m saying that for comp play "normal" termis now are not an option anymore
      termi shooting is a joke and melee is to expensiv... DK do it cheaper and better

      the dex is weak in general

      for example in the WD bat.rep Sammual didn´t even make normal bike troops
      so we can expect Belial doesnt do termi troop anymore as well
      or its an upgrade that cost or ristricts other things

      its looking like DAs will be just as weak as CSM overall... prob only 1-2 good lists in the book if any!

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    12. for 4 points model above an ordinary terminator squad, DW gains Deathwing Assault, Inner Circle, Splitfire, vengeful strike and the ability to mix and match shooting/melee.
      Especially useful now in 6th.
      They can be scoring with Belial BTW, and I can bet you that Sammael will make RW troops.
      We don't know the exact rules for the DK, so claiming that they are better in melee is unwise, as is discarding an entire codex as weak before you read it.

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    13. Okay, seriously dude, just give up. Nobody cares about your tunnel minded tactica, based off misguided beliefs, I can 100% garauntee that Sammael and Belial will make Ravenwing and Deathwing troops, respectivley.

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  2. Just advance ordered all my stuff, cannot wait to pick it all up next saturday! The majority of the models look awesome, still not sold on the new land speeder vengeance though, can't win them all i spose. Needless to say il be broke for the next few weeks lol

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    1. Now I've seen it from a more head on and level angle I've come to like so I ordered one lol

      E.eli

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    2. Not me, it reminds me of that taxidermized cat with helicopter motors in its feet.

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    3. I have to agree about the new speeder pics. I guess it's all about the angles. But the way the pictures now give a more heads on look, it doesn't look half bad. Same goes for the flyer too, the fighter has a pretty sweet sleathly look to it....I like it :)

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  3. Already ordered my collector's codex :)

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    1. I might have taken one but I'm afraid it would have caused problems when playing with players who don't understand english :(

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    2. So they are only printed in English? Makes sense I guess, still a shame mind.

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    3. Just ordered my limited edition codex, too. I am damn glad these are availiable only in English, both because the usually solid German translations are kinda wonky as of late, and because it reduces demand in the non-english speaking countries enough to ensure I get one.

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  4. The lack of Thunder Hammers and Lightning Claws in the Deathwing Box is super, super annoying. But I guess I can just use the hammer out of the Ravenwing box, I have no idea what that club-like waepon is though.
    Call me crazy, but Sammael is exactly the same as before, in terms of his model? He's been in Finecast a long time?
    Oh yeah, Sternguard Veterans on the Elites page, and the new DA page is completely different from the placeholder one from ages ago.
    Can't wait to get my hands on the Codex!

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    1. sammy model has been the same for a looooong time, i have the metal version, and all i have to say on his model is if aint broke dont fix it, would have hated if they changed his current model as i think its great.

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    2. I agree, I just had a tiny, far-fetched, pointless bit of hope that he would move to plastic.
      The only thing broke about him is his cost, 83AUD, ouch. At least you'll only ever need one I 'spose.

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    3. I saw that club too! God only knows what that thing is.

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    4. Yeah...it's awful when I can't equip my unique terminators with 30453490 special rules exactly the same way as the vanilla ones. What's the point of playing a different army if I can't equip them exactly as every other army right out of the box?

      I also remember when people said the Space Wolves codex would be completely unplayable, UNPLAYABLE, because they couldn't be kitted out the same way as vanilla (TH+SS spam) out of the box. I forgot...what happened? Oh yeah, Space Wolves dominated tournaments, hilariously so, for almost 15 months straight.

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    5. The point of playing them with 30453490 special rules and equipping them the same is because they have 30453490 special rule that make them unique. Plus I only want three TH/SS per squad, max.
      Really, and Loganwing made up for made percentage of that domination? I forgot how utterly useless Grey Hunter, Rune Priests and Long Fangs were and just how fantastic a 63 point TH/SS Wolf Guard Terimantor was.

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    6. People are too reliant on TH/SS terminators. I hope future codices move away from them, or make them expensive enough that other options are viable as well.

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  5. Hehe $75 for that flyer.

    My necron scythes laugh at your ridiculous human prices.

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    1. In Australia the Scythe's are $76, and the Ravenwing Flyer $81 - I think the prices are starting to level out, but not in the good direction.

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    2. And Australia has horrible inflation, a minimum wage that all but makes profit margins impossible, and the worst exchange rate on planet earth. Oh, and nearly everyone who played these games residing there consistently gave GW the finger for years and elected to undercut them wherever possible.

      Boo hoo.

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    3. Someone has some unresolved issues, was an Australian mean to you? Boo hoo.
      I was simply pointing it out, I was never bitching or complaining.
      And in fact, the Australian Dollar is quite strong at the moment, you know, with the whole economy not tanking completely.

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  6. They put big chunks of stonework on their flyers, I guess that is why they are called the Fallen.

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    1. Except they are not. its the unforgiven.

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    2. C'mon mate, it's not technically accurate but it's pretty damn funny.

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    3. Would have been if it was accurate, but it isn't so it's not. Your humor is built on LIES!

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  7. They also have their own "armies" category as people have previously suggested based on links found on the GW webpage.

    Got my codex!

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  8. Okay Band wagon jumpers time to rolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll thank goodness now all you guys will jump off of the army i play and onto a knew one Chaos is saved and typhus too .

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  9. I really looked forward to this, but i am not a huge fan of built-in iconography and if future vehicle kits are as kit-bashable as the recent flyers, this won't be much fun for me =(

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    1. Me too

      Hate that they didnt do the icons optional

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    2. Just get a Storm Talon for $30 less and convert it. That's what I'm going :)

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    3. I would have liked to be able to kitbash the storm talon and this new flyer.
      Same with the new Land speeders and a tempest or Storm...

      Further I don't like how the plasma cannon is held by the terminator - right above the coil? like...really?

      There was an article on "Whats new today" back around june where one of the GW guys converted a Terminator to carry a Plasma cannon - a lot better looking than this one!

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    4. Oh that model was whole shades of awesome. I think the guy who did it also did a step by step tutorial for that mini so should be easy to replicate.

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    5. Can anyone link that article?

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  10. Say what you want people these prices are getting crazy. I know GW needs to make money but this stuff is just crazy. Almost time for a new hobby.....maybe gambling lol might cost less.

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    1. PP is no different. In fact, they are more expensive per model than GW, for crappier looking stuff still made from impossible to work with metal.

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    2. PP more expensive than GW maybe if your comparing purchasing a PP Colossal and a GW Independant character. PP has done a really good job converting their models to plastic, and their prices actually go down in such a conversion from metal to plastic, unlike GW whose prices go up from converting metal to resin/plastic.

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    3. OK, bye then. Enjoy your new hobby

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  11. Interesting to note and which I'm sad about. The command squads for both deathwing and ravenwing are only listed as having 1 wound. At the moment I don't see why you would take one but we will see shortly.

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    1. Also the whirlwind doesn't say anything about a skyfire missile yet.

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    2. Only HQ's n special characters r the ones who have more then one wound. It's always been like that. All other choices r 1 wound. Did I miss a rumor that troops & elites will get more than 1 wound?

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    3. Paladins? the same concept "elite terminators" get 2 wounds (and usually FNP too)

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    4. Chaos Chosen were rumoured to be 2W terminators as well, but we didn't get that. Honestly, I am glad that doesn't seem to be a trend though.

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    5. All Nobz have two wounds, that's not a termie thing and fluffwise, paladins are dead 'ard because they have to single handedly slay a greater daemon to get promoted

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    6. I think if the DW Knights had 2 wounds with smite, AND a storm shield as base, the cost would be far higher than what I've heard. And since no one has seen the codex who knows what else they have:).

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    7. No but I seem to remember a rumour saying that the command squads were all going to be 2w. Not the knights.

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    8. Again, there was a rumour Chaos Chosen could take terminator armour and would be 2W. Take rumours with salt.

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  12. I like some of these alternate bundles. Gives people a few interesting ways to start their armies.

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    1. The bundles cost exactly the same as if you purchased each box separately...

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    2. I know right. I don't see the point of the bundles at all.

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    3. It's basically just a way for GW to hold your hand and say, "Please buy all of this stuff. Please"

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  13. And they're down for some reason

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  14. Has anyone seen the rules for Belial. I want to use my TH/SS, or claws, but the figure looks static. and is it just me or is he shrugging or asking directions?

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    1. Haha! Dude, Rhasputine, I will never look at that model the same again. Im still picking him up but yeah they could've posed him better lol.

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    2. In an earlier rumor post it was mentioned that Belial will be able to use all the weapon load outs as before. Let's hope that will be true.

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    3. I've changed my opinion after seeing better photos...its more of a 'i give up pose'.

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  15. What happened to Azrael and the other characters already out changing to finecast?

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    1. Azrael and Ezekiel remains metal for now...
      Asmodai is OOP cause they made the new one (even if i think that old Asmodai is still useful to make a generic chaplain) and the two old Vet serg are OOP too now...
      Bethor the standard bearer is in failcast with a brand new banner full of failcast faults so the old metal model is OOP...
      I guess that old Asmodai and old sergeants are OOP for now to sell only the new stuff...
      I am pretty sure now that DA will have a second wave with all the old metal models in failcast and maybe some new kits (i think that they could redo the veterans and the standard bikers too)...
      We must see the codex to know if some new options are not still covered by this release and they will be in a second wave...

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  16. A few things I noted:
    - no psychic cards deck like chaos had, but the "regular" ones are more then enough IMO, so all good
    - the new Landspeeders don't look that bad after all in the 360°, still they could have positioned the gunner anywhere else and it would have looked better. Maybe gonna try to replace him with a turret as a kitbash
    - the prices are rough on the flyer and the standard bearer, guess I gonna stick with my old metal Bethor with his paper banner
    - Belials legs aren't that bad positioned as the leaked images suggested, still he remind me of the Emporer from Star Wars with the paint job he's been given

    All in all, I'm looking forward to the release. Time to undust my 20 year old Dark Angels once more.

    Cheers,
    HellHenni

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    1. No cards implies no codex powers. Considering they had 3 in the last codex, color me surprised and let down.

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