As an owner of the Iyanden codex, I will have to say that the book is great. The background story I loved, people I know playing through some of the missions are enjoying them, and the rules are fun and interesting.

We all know Matt Ward is the author of the book, did he name a save after himself? On page 60 of the new Iyanden codex supplement, under Mission Special Rules is "The Devourer of Hope". Under this special rule for the mission, the Hive Tyrant is said to have a toughness and a 2+ Ward save against all attacks......

OK, I know what you are saying, that a Ward save is a fantasy term for an invulnerable save, but look at it this way; Matt Ward is the author and this is 40k. Slip of the tongue and honest mistake? Matt is supposedly working on a lot of Warhammer Fantasy army books; Mistake or a deep rooted conspiracy of world domination? 

I'm building my bunker, and praying that just maybe with it, I too will be allowed to make a 2+ (Matt) Ward save when the "you know what" hits the fan.



Disclaimer;
There really is a 2+ Ward save on page 60 listed in the Iyanden codex supplement under the Mission Special Rules. We all know it means a 2+ invul save, but it is a lot of fun on a couple different levels. 

Matt, at least from me you are forgiven for what looks like a simple mistake that made it through editing......... but I'm watching you just in case.



Thanks Brian for catching this, and for helping me work though the latest Dark Eldar/ Eldar list yesterday. I think the new list is working well.

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    1. I should read the whole post first...

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    2. lol, I was laughing at this late last night after my game when it was brought to my attention. I really could not pass up a post on it.

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  2. Ward save? When you said he named a rule after himself, i thought you were referring to the 'Devourer of Hope' part...lol!

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    1. like I said, "world domination" is coming.

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    2. thought the same Masta Cheef and indeed did have a good old chuckle at that

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    3. Hehehe, exactly what passed through my mind!

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    4. Hehehe, exactly what passed through my mind!

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  3. A Ward save is the Fantasy equivalent of an invuln, innit?

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    1. That is what I thought. Funny, apparently not a lot of players play both games?

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    2. Not exactly - ward saves can be taken in addition to armor saves if you have both.

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    3. Actually I wish Invul worked like ward saves... make heroes tougher...

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    4. >ward saves can be taken in addition to armor saves
      I've been playing WHFB since '94, but I never realized this. Boy, do I feel the fool now...

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    1. Wait, is that like Jesus Saves?!

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    2. But Gretzky scores on the rebound!

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  5. Thats funny....on another note despite Mat Wards reputation for fluff writing, I thought the Iyanden fluff was actually a very fun, atmospheric read.

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    1. That's because he didn't write it. I know for a fact there's now a clear distinction between fluff writers and rules writers.

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    2. There are no other writing credits on the book, so I'm pretty sure its him. I know in the Eldar Dex, Phil Kelly and Adam Troker are credited so I'm pretty sure the lone credits in the Iyanden dex means Ward wrote it alone.

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    3. Matt Ward did an over the top and great job on the background for this book.

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    4. @Jagged Red Lines - So in that case, would Ward be misblamed for the atrocious fluff around Space Marines, Grey Knights etc, etc?

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    5. Gabriel Smith, don't be silly... Jagged said NOW, and those weren't written NOW.

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  6. Ward Save - On the roll of a 2+, the Model discounts any and all hits it recives, and all statistics for every friendly model in your army is set to 10 for the remainder of the game. On the roll of a 1, your entire army's fluff is completely destroyed as everyone wangsts about how they will never ever be an Ultramarine ever for the remainder of the game.

    (Satire! X3)

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    1. You forgot the errata at the end : then apply the results as if you rolled a two or higher

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  7. It would be nice if it supposed to work like a fantasy Ward save, so you get to roll it if you fail your armor save. I wonder if it will be in the next errata.

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  8. At the very least, the player using Ward Save should model the figure appropriately in order to fill WYSIWYG requirements.

    As readers of Codex: Grey Knights well remember, to model Ward Save appropriately requires the blood of dead Sisters of Battle, preferably with their corpses and/or body parts strewn all over the base.

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  9. Obviously you haven't heard of the space marine chapter named after him called the " Ward Bearers"

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  10. Ehy guys... why do you think it's called a ward save? After all Ward wrote the first Daemon book for fantasy, no?

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  11. I heard that, in 40k, a Ward save is re-rolled until it's passed.

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  12. Wait... I'm still processing a Hive Tyrant getting 2+ invuln (Ward) saves! Is this some special mission thing?

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    1. Yeah, it's the Hive tyrant from the attack on the Craftworld itself, has T10 as well. Only Yriel with his Spear of Twilight hits it as if it were an ordinary Hive Tyrant.

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    2. Seems legit (in context)!

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  13. I know its cool to hate Matt Ward, but bloody hell guys, give him a break here. Obviously he got the fantasy and 40k terms mixed up, thats all!

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  14. Ward saves.
    It isn't just Jesus anymore.

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  15. Nobody noticed in the grey knights codex how he wrote OP rules for the Nemesis WARDing stave?

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  16. I blame miss used punctuation it should have read Ward, Save(this being the first line of power to the 6th chaos god)

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  17. I blame miss used punctuation it should have read Ward, Save(this being the first line of power to the 6th chaos god)

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  19. So a Ward save is what Matt gives a unit he wants to give a plot shield?

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  20. Honest mistake or sinister conspiracy? I would offer a third possibility: Freudian Slip - a mistake fueled by a subconscious desire to imprint his dark agenda on the game.

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