A slightly adjusted rumor rumor schedule is listed out here, apparently from a conversation. This would still be very close to what we were hearing from previous rumor sources, perhaps with the addition of Dark Elves in November.


Please remember that these are rumors, and to always add salt

via beerbeard  
I don't usually know anything or hear anything, but yesterday I was talking to someone who works for GW and he confirmed, to the best of his knowledge, this schedule:

August: Lizardmen, but that's not all
September: Big Surprise!
October: Space Marines, more than you expect
November: Dark Elves, more surprises
December: Hobbit
January: Dwarfs, and yes, more surprises

I stopped there because all I am really interested in are Dwarfs. I asked if the Big Surprise was Blood Bowl but he wouldn't say. I asked if the small surprises were supplement codices for 40k and he just smirked. I then asked if WHFB was going to get supplemental army books and he said he hadn't heard, but wouldn't be surprised.

I know people say these guys don't know any more than we do, but there it is for what it's worth.




I am going to speculate from what he said that the schedule above would look somethig like this with codex supplements added in
August: Lizardmen, Farsight supplement
September: Blood Bowl?
October: Space Marines, White Scars Supplement (could a second supplement also be in the same month?)
November: Dark Elves and another supplement, probably Marines and probably Ultramarines
December: Hobbit
January: Dwarves, and no idea

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  1. This list needs more Tyranids.

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    1. I agree. The Hive Mind needs a new 104 page hardback codex.

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    2. I'm finally kicking butt with my nids. I'm worried a new book will completely invalidate my list. Pyrovores will be the new auto-include

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    3. +1. why cant they just drop it and tell us what is that 'big surprise'. we know, we ll buy it anyway. even movie start teasing 1 year before release.....

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    4. I just realised today that a Biovore is £25 for a 45pt model...

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    5. For some reason I'm imagining Pyrovores with Torrent weapons...

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    6. Predictions because it always happens.

      Genestealers and Warriors, instead of Tevrigons and Termagaunts.
      Pyrovores and Venoms on top instead of Hive Guard and Zoans.
      Carnifex instead of Trygons.
      Harpy is the new kit, it's better than any other fast attack.
      Add another large kit make it 115$, need multiples.
      Add some units that you have to convert out of other units (special venomthrope hq or something)

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      Add another suppliment or two that makes you buy more of the new stuff(1 month) or flips your list on it's head (6 months)

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    7. Then I am all set. I have 18 Warriors with magnetized weapons, about 80 Genestealers, 6 Carnifex from 4th. I can field just about anything other than pyrovores and Harpies at the moment.

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    8. Yes this. Really, I'd be happy if they just released a snotpod model. Or the Harpy, to a lesser extent.

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    9. Soooooo according to this list no orks or nids till at least February ? PROFANITY !

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    10. But they won't invalidate any lists. None of the 6th ed books have just thrown out previously playable models. Besides, I want something new and not the same old garbage. I'm tired of having nine completely unplayable entries in the codex, and the rest being too expensive. I'm also sick of having to buy more clampacks than anyone else; my swarm army has more 1-3 choices in the FO than swarm elements.

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    11. Furthermore, there's no way GW goes that long without another 40k codex. They have openly stated that the books are all but printed, and they aren't going to put to gaps between them anymore.

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    12. Are you sure about that? Unless I'm mistaken, in 2011/2012, GW went almost a full year without a single codex release. Yes, they've picked it up lately, but I doubt this fast schedule will last forever. 4 months doesn't really seem that big compared to previous gaps. Really, it just brings things back to the old pace.

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  2. ...no real info here except "Surprises!"

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  3. September: Blood Bowl box reedition, or a new scalies race for 40K?

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    1. Now wouldn't that be fun?

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    2. Do you mean the Scalies of the Necromunda Scavvies? That would be pretty interesting. I would like to see a new alien or mutant race or two in 40k.

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    3. No way in hell they are releasing a new faction in 40k, it's most likely Blood Bowl, or Warhammer Quest.

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    1. Might be tempted by this..

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    2. The Furry Famdom in 40K are the Space Wolves.

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    3. I would SO play space rats....

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    4. I have wanted a Hurrd book for along time. Saw them in a 4th ed picture xenos line up and fell in love.

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    5. No, they're called Veer-myn...

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    1. Supliment, you won't get yur own codex... ever :P

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  6. There need to be a Salamander book!! Where is the fluff

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  7. Bretonnians no where to be seen? They haven't had an update to their army list since 2004 and yet nearly every army has had some sort of reinvention or addition to their lists and yet nothing for Bretonnians?

    Bretonnians USED to have the best and relatively-cheapest cavalry in the game but even the mighty Grail Knights have been superseded by other armies in terms of strength, abilities, and overall cost.

    Turns out, since I began collecting them in 2005, I've been wasting my money on a dead army, when I should have been collecting something else.

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    1. With the exception of the Pegasus Knights, you could in theory proxy a lot of your army into Empire models

      Archers - Archers

      Men At Arms - State Troops with Halberd\Shield

      Knights of Realm - Empire Knights

      Questing Knights - Inner Circle Knights w\great weapon

      Grail Knights - Reiksguard

      Grail Relique - Flagellants

      Trebuchet - Hellstrom Rocket Battery

      I know you'd lose a *lot* of your armies flavor, but even as an (ex) Breton player myself, I'm starting to see this might be how its going to end up being, sadly.

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    2. Or Bretonnians could be the new black...as in Black Templars...

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    3. The problem is GW does not update armies based on how outdated they are. They look at what sells and go with that.

      Either way, Bretonnia is still fine in WHFB, something that cannot be said about Wood Elves. With the meta now currently favoring high Armor Saves and MC, Brets are in a rather good spot. If something needs an update right NOW, it's the WE.

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    4. Not even that, they update on a "What we want to work on" basis.

      Dark Eldar, Necrons and Tau are proof that giving a propper update will increase sales by quite a lot.

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    1. Ork still work well IMO, so there's really no need.

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    2. Just because the codex still works doesn't mean it isn't out of date. The good units are pretty good. The terrible units are very bad and there is a serious issue with an assault-themed ork list.

      Just because you can make 2 lists with a codex doesn't mean it has no need for an update. Besides Sisters and BT, Orks are oldest. Besides SM, Orks are most iconic. I'd argue SM (with BT rolled in), then Orks is bestways.

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    3. I agree with loopy, I'd like to run something that isn't just 30 man shoota boyz, 10 man lootas and the occasional nob/manz trukk.

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    4. Exactly. And I'd say orks dont' still work well. They scrape by with one build. Most everything besides lootas and shoota boyz and battle wagons don't work. Big guns don't work. Tank bustas don't work. Flash gits and Looted Wagons don't work. Deff Koptas half work but are expensive.

      Orks need some serious adjusting and some new things. So they can have a few more builds. Then they'll work well again.

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  10. The September surprise, according to my GW guy, is Orks. No joke.

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    1. Oh my...is that why there is an Ork in the pic? I was wondering about that.

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    2. Followed by marines.
      Will be a expensive few months.

      Really look forward to some orks though.
      Some rumors are very juicy

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    3. Er, did he mean the Orks in Blood Bowl? I thought it had been confirmed (as much as possible) that September is specialist game month.

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    4. i´d rather see more stuff for the main games or for apoc. Instead of a nother spezialist game that no one will buy after 2 months caus it wont be supportet from then on.

      Bloodbowl makes the least sence to rereleas since they would have to do all the teams in finecrap (but old sculpts) -.-
      not cool IMO

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    5. just incase you don´t have it

      http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490002a&prodId=prod1140161

      buy now
      before it becomes a 125,-€ box ;)

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    6. Hey Warlord22,

      Blood Bowl is very popular, there are multiple third party companies making miniatures for it. It's so popular, that there is a fan made Living Document for it that is accepted by GW. It's so popular it's got a Video Game with expansions! It's so popular, that the models will be plastic! It's so popular, I figure it will sell out just as fast if not faster than Space Hulk.

      Blood Bowl, and I think I mentioned it, is very popular and I figure it's a great use of resources. GW may not support it into the future, but the huge crowd of people that are Blood Bowl fanatics are going to love this update.

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    7. Also every time I've been to Bugmans bar in GW HQ Nottingham there have been at least two games playing. Even at lunch times I've seen games going one and I only ever visit weekdays (Thursday usually with a stop for lunch Friday.)

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    8. So then i finally get my gargbot transported in a Trukk! Yeah!
      The Orkish Cybot drop pod!

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  11. space dwarves!!!!! just got the info..... nah, just kidding. it s going to be a one clic offer for some vanilla space marines (no savings of course)

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  12. GW realised the awful quality of the current Chaos Space Marine codex, so they created the greatest Chaos Space Marine codex ever and hurried it to the printers, so the fans would get it in September! Nice work GW, that sure was a big surprise, listening to your fans like that.

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    1. What exactly is wrong with the Chaos Space Marine codex? I know there are some things they could have added like some twisted tanks and Champion of Chaos could be more interesting like a WS bonus in challenges for example. I know Possessed and Thousand Sons are expensive but they are for good reason, especially the latter which have 4++ and AP3 Bolters.

      There are a lot of things they could have done but it's still a good codex.

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    2. Indeed. I read some very dissapointed peoples complaints.
      I do not play them myself though.

      On the bright side. A nice supplement could cheer some folks up Perhaps

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    3. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Chaos Space Marine Codex. It works just fine as it is. Moving on....

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    4. you got the same problem all the new dexes have... good but just not that good & too many coin flipp units.

      If you want a dex that wins games Crons is still the way to go.

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    5. Yeah, those drakes really suck for you guys...

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    6. The Chaos codex is not bad. It has some bad units, Mutilators, Warp Talons. But it has some really good things as well, Heldrake, Nurgle oblits. I play Chaos as well as nids, and I like the chaos book. The biggest problem I have with it and Daemons is that they were drastically blown away by Tau and now Eldar.

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    7. Always feels every time I pick up the Chaos Codex that a page of Wargear notes got stuck together and so missed out of the final print.

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    9. Yeah...between drakes and 20 man marine squads, you guys have it SO rough... *smallest violin in the world playing just for the CSM players*

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    10. Chaos marine dex is is good. And Daemon one is even better. Both offer loads options and builds. Lots Choices. I don't want every unit brilliant. Sorry Warlord22 i don't want a dex that wins games. flip units or not. I want to win games. Me as a player not as a book. And if i can build a fun interesting list that happens to use units that are apparently bad. With a good solid plan, set up and unit synergy. I'll take that everytime. Oh and have personally found warp talons fantastic when used them. :) Love em.

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    11. since when do plans work in 6th?

      this edition is all about not reliable stuff like melee, nightfight and all the other BS. The dexes only add to randomnes. Tabels to roll on before the game, banner that can die and cost you the game or win it if not.

      I don´t see how any of the new dexes are good in comparison to 5th ED dexes.
      If we at least had flyer that didn´t suck like crons have?!!!

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    12. Erm battle plan. Still works whatever edition. Deployment. Objectives. Which unit is gonna do what... kill, support ,tie up etc etc. Melee still works in 6th! hey u can still move within 6 inch like before and 80%(not math hammer) make the charge. Or do crazy long charges (If fleet very do-able). True Shooting bit more important. Overwatch mostly overhyped. Love the fact power weapons have different ap. Because 5th was all about hiding in transports and assault. Loving this edition. Randomness fine and adds flavour. 5th got so stale. Play the player not the dex. I don't expect to put my army down and auto win because my dex is a winning one ie BA, Crons and GK. Good flyer bad flyer whatever. All units have possibilities.

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    13. yeah meh... :/
      6inch yes but to many times you get overwatched or just roll bad when you need it. Not every charge is important as the other. I have lost 3-4 termis several times to overwatch on the charge, thats really said and not very competitiv of a game. Its not supposed to be like coin-flipp IMO

      the problem is that the old 5th ED dexes are still around and some units even got stronger
      IN the New dexes they did nothing about the bad units nore did they realy balance flyer to AA ratio options out. Its just said.
      Its as if it was never tested out.

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    14. So tactics, setup and plan etc is meh? That's the game! Overwatch is fine imo. So its ok shoot up a unit and then charge them. But they shouldn't be able to fire at a unit as they get assaulted? Lost few termies oh well. It happens when dice are involved.

      6th edition. Are all excellent. Not everything has to be awesome. The 'bad' units are more than usable. Try synergy and having fun. AA options and ratios doing ok. Its happening. Got quad gun, icarus. Flakk missiles are in most new dexs. Crons broke the Flyer thing anyway. Ridiculous amount they can field. I don't normally comment. But your constant negativity is really irritating.

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    15. Len is so right on the money and comes off as the better player here Warlord22.

      6th Edition is just a better game, and it made a lot of codices and playstyles viable. 5th was to charge centric, overwatch and new charge rules made charging and shooting a lot more equal. Thise means you can build some really good shooting lists.

      If you have to much AA then flyers become useless, but a good player can spot other ways to shoot flyers, a bad player just goes to the dex and look for "Sky fire"

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    16. I'm personally sick and tired of people whinging about the Chaos Space Marine codex. Chaos in general is my number 1 army and I feel it has never been better at this stage (especially since you can mix them with Daemons). It would be nice to see some Legion specific traits but there are so many awesome options. Some people just need to stop being so narrow minded.

      Yes in some ways the Eldar and Tau codexes have more interesting rules but the Chaos Space Marine codex still has good choices like Dirge mobiles, Heldrakes, Maulerfiends and Sorcerers that can reroll failed psychic tests to name a few.

      Also if you can't handle random elements in a GAME, maybe you should stick to naughts and crosses.

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    17. Yes I agree with and chaos sm are fav army of all :)

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  13. Looking at the current white dwarf, it seems that the Farsight Supplement should be out this month (along with the BRB), so hopefully we would get another supplement in August...

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    1. And hopefully all books, either straight away or shortly after digital releases.

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  14. September confirmed for squats.

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    1. If that happens my mind will just explode in pure disbelief

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  15. Im imagining september for warzone pandorax, as its supposed to between Marines and Chaos Marines.

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  16. Salamanders deserve a supplement more that White Scars. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the supplement is for Black Templars

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    1. salamanders had one in the old armagedon book
      so whitescars need it more? :D

      idk
      blacktemplars & salamanders would be an option if they do the armagedon thing again and also do ork dex some time later... but we can only guess since the rumors are just that atm

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    2. White Scars are more unique in play style than Salamanders imo, so it makes more sense.

      Besides "Salamanders are cooler" is not a response :P (Because in that case Exorcists should be the poster boy chapter)

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    3. Salamanders already have their own play style within the Space Marines codex.

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  17. I can't get my head around why people are hoping for Ultramarines suppliment. How can the Ultramarines deserve a supplement dex? Why would they deviate from the Codex Astartes that they themselves have written?
    The only deviation they really have are Tyranic War veterans, and they're really just sternguard with Preferred enemy Nids.

    There are plenty other first founding that would better benefit from a supplement, like Iron Hands and Salamanders.

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    1. for the IMBA rules

      prob the hatred nids thing you mentioned
      some upgrades, wargear, ect
      and you will need the supplement to "unlock" calgar and tigerius and the other ICs

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    2. Well the current precedent (which being only the first book, so not exactly 'set in stone'), is for at best minor tweaks, alongside new warlord traits and special wargear. The bulk of the book being given over to fluff and similar stuff (like heraldry).
      So an Ultramarines supplement allows for a deeper look into their background as a chapter, rather than as 'a template'. Plus any supplemental rules they give em could be based either on them being Tyranic war vets, or for being usually around full chapter strength and relatively well armed and supplied when compared to other codex compliant chapters.

      All that said though I'd much prefer they do the Iron hands instead, red-headed step child that they are.

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    3. Keep in mind that the Iyanden supliment didn't change the basics of the codex, just added tweaks and wargear.

      The Ultramarines do have their own relics (read wargear) and customs (Read special rules and warlord traits)

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  18. Wonder if they'll bring back BFG, the website seems oddly devoid of the old kits...

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    1. Theory is that GW are leaving their Specialist Games and focusing all efforts on their 3 main games. Once the Specialist Games are gone; they are gone.

      Epic is set during the Armageddon War and 2nd Edition Apocalypse covers that. Mordheim is still playable with bette miniatures from the WFB range. Inquisitor can be played with 40K minis with some alterations to the ranges. BFG however is widely popular game and it would be bad to see it fade into history.

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    2. Some years down the line, GW will most certainly bring back BFG as a limited edition with simplified rules and a couple of plastic ships from each faction in the box, with no extended support whatsoever. The same for Epic - abbreviated rules, a few stands and a couple of vehicles from most factions, simplified rules, no support either beyond the LE box.

      Why? To maintain the rights to the trademarks, that's why. It was the reason for Space Hulk '09, at lest.

      Maybe it was the idea behind Dreadfleet, too, but GW discovered that they could no longer claim the trademark "Man'O'War" (hurr, they're no longer a small company and the IP lawyers of rock bands are more aware nowadays, too). Continuing the hypothesis, GW had probably already invested quite a lot into the project, so they decided to sell the already made game even under a new name just to minimize their losses.

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  19. Dark Elves are the first ever army I collected way back, so I'm personally very happy for the upcoming book.

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  20. Iron Warriors supplemental codex! That'd be a surprise!

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  21. But.... greater daemons....? Bloodthirster...?

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  22. You know what would be awesome? Think like Marines in black power armor, they will have a crusader type back story. They would all be really angry Catholic space Nazi's with power weapons and be neglected by GW for years after a successful and popular release. Oh the possibilities!

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    1. You mean a Black Templar Supplement for the Space Marines Codex? Great idea! ;)

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    2. A better idea might be an Ultramarines supplement for the Black Templars codex...

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  23. Also cry everytime I see Bretonnia missing :(

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  24. Maybe even black power-armor catholic space Nazis with power weapons riding Bretonnic warhorses with white-haried barmaids in specialized armor following them about carrying wargear and sandwiches... -all for the greater good.

    I know, I just made a lot of enemies.

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    1. You also made a fan.

      Got a nice laugh from your post.

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    2. Thanks, but no need for fans, just free speech for all. For the greater good, of course.

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    3. And they would all go on a quest in a dungeon that look like it was painted on cardboard

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  25. you can forget about it being bloodbowl since GW killed off its specialist games range. If anything they should bring BFG back. but thats as likely as them selling models at a reasonable price.

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