Here is more in response to Stickmonkeys release schedule. These rumors are from Straightsilver and has some contradictions in it.

In fact the whole stickmonkeys release schedule blows out a lot on the current line of rumors, not only from Straightsilver and Ghost21, but from a whole host of other sources. Of course, GW often changes their minds and delays things. It could very well be that Chaos Legions was just now decided to be pushed back, and Stickmonkey just has the quickest handle on the latest information. We shall see.

Please remember that there are quite a few rumors in here, take with salt.

via StraightSilver

Hmmm, well I have the Legions Dex down as a lot earlier than 2013 (earlier than many may think) but of course nobody really knows so 2013 is as good a guess as 2012, and I get the impression they do really want to make a big deal out of them which would explain the delay.

Tau in Q1 is a very big possibility. I had been told that Tau have had new models ready since June 2011 by somebody who has (allegedly) seen them. I was under the impression they would get a wave release with a WD update but this seems to have been canned in favour of a Codex. From June to Q1 is enough time to develop a Dex so that's certainly possible.

In terms of Marines, all the new Codexes (with the exception of Space Wolves) have had models which use the new flying stand ('Nids will get the Harpy at some point).

There is definitely a push towards large models and when asked why only Grey Knights and Blood Angels get Storm Ravens at Games Day it was inferred that they are the only Chapter that use them, but that other Chapters use their own variation of flyer.

So it's possible there will be a new model which will feature in both Black Templars and Vanilla akin to a Storm Raven and will appear in both Dexes.

This means that the Vanilla Dex and BTs could be released close together, in a similar way that Blood Angels and Grey Knights were.

And GW almost always releases a new Marine Dex with a new edition, so with Edition 6 arriving in Q2/Q3 next year it is more than likely.

it's not unheard of for GW to have models ready for months / years and still sit on them, so Tau could be Q1 or not even next year.

I had heard Chaos Legions would be next year, and earlier than previously rumoured, but then again that same source said Tau would be 2011 so that's questionable.

It may just be that Legions ended up being bigger than they expected and they want to do a "Dark Eldar" on it.

Plus it's almost definitely going to be Chaos + something else in the 6th Edition starter set so they may want to wait until sales of that have kicked in, which would be Q1 2013.

I hope not though.

Well it has been stated that 2011 was a Warhammer year and 2012 will be a 40K one.

I wouldn't be surprised if Necrons follow the same model Dark Eldar set, so a wave in January followed by a 2.5 wave in March/April.

There was also a second 40K release in 2011 (Grey Knights) whilst DE were being finished off.

Therefore I would expect a Q1 2012 40K release.

As to what this will be is anybody's guess.

Sisters are still a long way off.

GW were reluctant to rerelease DE (it was pretty much Jes Goodwin that championed them) yet they proved to sell well despite a long break between codices.

I suspect GW feel the same way about Sisters, rather waiting to do them properly rather than rush them out.

Jes did say in October 2011 that they were on hold for the time being. That doesn't mean they aren't being worked on now, but I think there will be other releases long before them.

As to the rest of the year, we have edition 6 coming out in June/July, probably with a new starter set in Q4 2012.

2013 will be the year of The Hobbit / LOTR so I suspect we will get lots of 40K stuff crammed into 2012, especially as it's also the 25th anniversary of Rogue Trader.

However 2013 isn't really that far for Chaos Legions.

Let's be honest, this isn't GW failing, they haven't officially announced anything, they will release stuff when they are ready, not before.

Do I think it will be 2012 though? Yes I do. There is almost no doubt Chaos will feature in some way in the new starter set (of course I'll look silly if they don't...) which is out Q3 2012 so it makes sense that the Chaos Legions Codex will be the last one before the end of that year. Then a wave 2 release January 2013.

However I have heard rumours it will be before that, but as that contradicts absolutely everybody else I won't go into that.


  1. I like the idea of Chaos getting the DE treatment. I still cringe everytime I look at the Khorne Berserker kit; the heads are ugly, as are the legs. Plastic Plague and Noise Marines would be nice too, but my big question is what big flyer/monster model would Chaos get? Hell Talon? Stormbird? Dreadclaw?
    This is going to be an interesting year for 40k to say the least!

  2. @Granesh: If Chaos got a plastic Dreadclaw, I would probably buy five of them. That infuriatingly large price tag is all that currently stands between me and the forge world order page.
    This sounds more likely than the previous rumour, with at least some Chaos being released next year.

  3. Conflicting wish listing and making up stuff you mean?


  4. My brain hurts!

    'It may just be that Legions ended up being bigger than they expected and they want to do a "Dark Eldar" on it.'

    If that's true I say: GREAT!

    The Dark Eldar are, in my opinion, the best looking models (so far) and the most complete range (except for a bomber I've read about).

    Will any chaos fan complain if they have to wait a few extra months for an army which looks COOL and is (mostly) completed within a year?

    If only GW did that with Tyranids, I'd have a swarm of the hungry blighters instead of looking into a different army.

  5. I was all set to start a new Night Lords army in January, but I think I'll work more on my Orks and DE in the meantime. I'm super excited about this release, CSM were the first army I had started. I still play them, but not as much as Orks ;)

  6. hobbit? realy?
    did anybody read the book? its no were as good as LOTR... and its about a HOBBIT!!!! who wants to buy a hobbit??? I don´t think there will be a movie on that... at least not a good one. And i dought it will pay of for GW to jump on it. But well if they lose money they can just charge more for everything!!! :D

  7. Sorry to dissapoint , you can look now how it being made.

  8. i agree totally, the hobbit blows. There's nothing cool about a giant terrifying dragon that hordes treasure and kills everything or trolls that turn to stone in sunlight...oh, wait...yes there is.

  9. Peter Jackson buckled and said he was doing the movie, and it's in two parts. Part 1 next December and Part 2 December of 2013.

    Won't matter much now about the movie, what GW does or plan... the world ends apparently in a year anyway lol

  10. Matthew 24:36 "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

    Matthew 24:42 "Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming."

    Don't think the Son of God would say that after the ancient Mayans said 21st December 2012. So treat 'the end of the world 2012' as just another rumour and wishful thinking. :))

    As for the Hobbit I have read the book:

    Gandalf, Bilbo and a group of Dwarves on an adventure to reclaim the dwarf treasure from a dragon. They encounter more than trolls on the way:

    Giant spiders, wood elves and goblins. For those of you who don't know 'The Battle of Five Armies' from GW is from the Hobbit. Though that will be in the second film. Okay, it's no where near as HUGE as Lord of the Rings but it was an enjoyable read.

  11. End 2012

    "Take with a pillar of salt"


    Couldn't resist

  12. I don't think the son of God knew the world was round either so its fair to assume his knowledge of the Mayan calender was limited. OT I'm so excited fie these releases. i don't care what's next, as long as it looks good and is fun.

  13. If the Son of God had said the world was round at the time, he would have been killed earlier. People several thousand years ago wouldn't have liked an idea like that.
    @Thorson: OK, it was a fairly decent joke to those are religious or who know a lot about the Old Testament.

  14. Btw, the mayan calendar doesn't actually end in 2012. It just ticks over, like our calendar did back in 2000. No big deal. Back on topic, i'd love to see 2012 as a 40k year. And the sooner old codices are updated, the better.

    Take with a pillar of salt? LOL

    Happy holiday season folks.

  15. 6th Starter set is supposed to be Chaos (Demons or SM?) vs either BT or SoB. The rumors were a bit vague in there, but were rather definite that there would be no more "boys in blue" or xenos included. Originally the rumor was no SM at all (at least loyalists) or IG, which is the main reason Sisters were the speculation. Which would also tie in nicely with why GW published the crapdex in WD.

  16. A daemon starter set? Not sure if that would be a good idea. Daemons are the only army I've played, and I still don't know how to deploy! They're an unconventional army, and I'm not sure if it would be a good way to introduce new people to 40k: they would soon learn to hate the mishap table.


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