OK, first I thought it a joke. In fact it might still be. However, it was time to chime in and drop the line on the latest talk of the Demiurg (Squats or Space Dwarves).

What we have here are rumors declaring that Squats (Demiurg) will be making an appearance with the Tau. Now at first I was dismissive. I even laughed a bit. However, the more I read, the more plausable the idea really became. Then someone mentioned that the Tau do have dealings with the Demiurg, and that their ships are allies in Battlefleet Gothic.

What I have here is a couple things. The most relative posts on the subject as of when I was typing this out, of which are several people that have dropped us very accurate rumors in the past. Lastly I posted a couple paragraphs from the Battlefleet Gothic pdf on the GW website that talks about the Demiurg.

Have fun, and don't forget the salt.

via Stinger989
Well after posting some GK rumors i have returned with some more interesting tid bitz.

Squats will be returning with the TAU!

depending on printing problems it is possible they will be slated for November 2011 moving the Necrons back

Squats will be a troop choice and have t4 s5(with battle axe) 5+ 5+FNP(intoxicating save) and SAP but will be allowed to charge 6" instead of rolling

There is a squat HQ but no info yet.

Kroot are still in as well as the firewarriors

Character unlocks crisis suits as troops and they have gotten much better.

update: demiurg is what i ment but im sure you all know that by now.
hopefully more to come in the upcoming months. Enjoy

via Straightsilver
Well I was about to groan at "yet another squat" rumour but this does very scarily reinforce a rumour I have heard regarding Tau too, so I won't laugh this one off just yet.

I have been hearing since last year that Tau would get a big release in Q4 2011.

They will be getting plastic vespid, pathfinders and new battle suits and crisis suits (most likely recut sprue with all weapon options in plastic).

And I have heard that they were getting a new race as a unit type.

I never in a million years thought it would be squat/demiurg but this would be awesome if it's true.

The only thing that gives me pause is that I was told Tau would be getting new minis, but not necessarily a new Codex, so could the rules for these be in White Dwarf?

via Bramgaunt
You have to add that Demiurg and Tau have been known to at least trade with each other, if I remember it correctly. The Tau Ion Cannon is of Demiurg design, I think.

via Spectral Dragon
Necron's won't be done in time, that is why they are putting another codex in it's slot, the necron's aren't "getting pushed back because of the tau," they will be done when they are done.

Also, I was told about the Demierg rumor as well.

Taken from the Tau Battlefleet Gothic pdf's
Once a supremely rare sight, the gigantic stately commerce vessels of the Demiurg have been seen with increasing regularity in the Ultima Segmentum over recent centuries. Although known in legend among many indigenous races through the region, Demiurg vessels avoid Imperium-claimed space scrupulously unless specifically invited in. Unfortunately, less than scrupulous planetary governors have been known to employ Demiurg forces to bolster their own positions, inviting Inquisitorial censure for their truck with aliens.

Fleet strategists have postulated a link between the ships and the expansion of the Tau Empire on the Eastern Fringe, citing three confirmed sightings of Tau/Demiurg or Kroot/Demiurg fleets in the region of the Damocles Gulf. Others have suggested that the nomadic movement of the mysterious Demiurg demonstrates only an opportunistic desire to capitalise on the disruption caused by the Tyranid hivefleets.


  1. thanks for the rumors, great job, great blog :)

  2. Good collection of leads there Natfka and they sound pretty promising.

    I'd happily see the Demiurg return.

  3. Would be nice to have the little bastards back.

  4. I would be ecstatic if this were true. As an old Squat player, their removal from the game was heart-breaking. I'd happily accept any bone GW was willing to throw and try to build a "counts-as" force of "all-Demiurg" out of the Tau.

  5. Would also help the tau to have something/anything that was respectable in melee. Kroot get a lot of attacks but have no real staying power, and with the advent of sweeping advance and removal of outnumbering rules, the kroot just haven't been able to protect the firing ranks as of late.

  6. I'd love to see Demiurg (squats) return. They were my first army back in '93 right before they discontinued them. I just started putting together a "counts as Tau" army with my old models a month back but I think I'll hold off until the new codex comes out now.

    Please GW don't make them stupid! Put Jes Goodwin on them!

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  8. Squats were my second army after I started the hobby just in time for the second edition release. They got a tiny bit of an army list for that release before vanishing and I was absolutely gutted. Really hope they come back even if it's just as a slight nod from GW. They've already stolen the Thudd Gun (Thunderfire Cannon), Conversion beamer and Graviton Gun from the Squats, so they're at least using them for ideas if nothing else. The use of the Graviton gun by the inquisition in the new Grey Knights codex and then statement that they use Alien weapons could well be the first hint??

  9. I would like to see the Squats brough back using the Demiurg concept. Unfortunately all of the rumors I have heard about them being put into the Tau codex are along the same lines as their stupid original character, which got them binned in the first place, with a lot of 'wishful thinking' added on.

    For the last few years I have been developing a full Demiurg codex as well as an army to go with it, using the Grymn range from Hasslefree Miniatures.

    In addition to a standard codex I have also included rules for Apocalypse only units, such as the Colossus (I've built a model for this) and the land train.

    I have also recently been forking on expanding their rules for battlefleet gothic and have made components for escort ships and a space station that I am ready to cast up.

    If you'd like to take a look at my work please pop along to my blog.


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