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Cypher Lord of the Fallen: A First Look


Cypher Lord of the Fallen has just been released digitally by Games Workshop Digital as the finale of the our December Advent calendar. There is more to this dataslate than we first thought, as it is the largest of any of the dataslates we have seen, comes with a tremendous amount of background, and allows you to play Cypher alone as part of your primary detachment, or as a formation leading the fallen into battle.



Lets start off by what is in this book, granted I have the interactive ipad version.
ebook version $16.99
http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Cypher.html

ipad interactive on itunes $19.99
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/artist/games-workshop/id536481148?mt=11&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Cypher
Cypher as a HQ unit can be used in a primary detachment of the following codices.
Adepta Sororitas, Blood Angels, Chaos Space Marines, Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, Inquisition, Space Marines, and Space Wolves. He does not take up a HQ slot and cannot be combined with any army of Dark Angels.

He gets to use his both his pistols to fire twice each per round, and can even use them in close combat. He comes with some nasty special rules, including but not limited to fleet, hit and run, infiltrate, and more. Not to mention his sword gives him shrounded.

He is quite the powerful character, and point cost wise, is not that bad. There is the issue of extra victory point conditions when Cypher is fielded across from Dark Angels, and a -1 leadership penalty to your Warlord if you take him. Otherwise I see him as having some very powerful abilities that should make him quite powerful, even with the drawbacks.

Fallen Champions
This is a Chaos Space Marine formation that includes Cypher and 1-3 units of Chosen. The chosen get Cypher which is strong enough on their own, but also receive Infiltrate, Fallen Leader (use Cyphers ldr within 12"), and Never Forgive special rules (giving any opposing dark angels zealot).

The rest of the book contains 4 Altar of War missions and 3 Echoes of War missions, which I have not yet had time to read.

First Look
 I really like this dataslate, as it comes with both a new character and a formation for the game. It also comes with a large variety of armies which both character and formation can easily fit into and have lots of fun doing so.

I was surprised at first when I saw the price of it just past midnight, but once I opened it up, there was more background story than I could sit down and read tonight. So yes, it looks like there is new background information, or at least the first time its all been in one place from what I know of.

I am rather happy with the results of this dataslate, and it is a great way to open up Christmas Day with. So Have if I dont get a chance to post up later, have a great Christmas.

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  1. And everyone gets him, because this is GW where the balance is made up and the fluff doesn't matter.....

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    1. I'm happy that at least most of his perks only go to CSM. It would have made more sense for him to be csm and DA only. The fact that all of the imperium gets him but not DA is very sad. It would have been awesome if he could have made dark angels into fallen.

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    2. What's wrong with it fluff wise? No one outside the DA inner circle and raven wing know cypher is any more than another DA. There is nothing wrong fluff wise. It would have been nice if he had been a HQ choice for the DA codex, but ment you could not take any other named DA HQ to represent fallen.

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    3. Merry Christmas DaBoarder. Sheesh. Enigmatic character brought back for use after all these years = awesome sauce! He is fitting background, so making him available to all except (for obvious reasons) DA. Balance, its good enough to play games with and not be to good or to bad. Going to have to steal this model from my friend and give it a whirl

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    4. There is absolutely no reason he should be allowed to be used by DA. Considering the codex represents a force to hunt the fallen, having an HQ that is fallen doesn't make sense.

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    5. It makes perfect sense to include him in DA with rules to make them Fallen Angels. It would have made a much more interesting fluff representation than using CSM.

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    6. The problem is the DA codex represents them after the fall. A fallen angels army couldn't have deathwing as they didn't exist prior to the fall. In fact, much of the DA wargear is specifically named with respect toward their hunt for the fallen. The whole DA codex is designed to represent the forces of the Unforgiven,

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    7. If GW were to let DA use Cypher, they would have to disallow any Inner Circle model, not just the named characters. And that would be pretty huge.

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    8. Exactly Charles.
      My original thoughts, before the new dark angels codex, was "it would be cool to field "fallen" dark angels with cypher out the front. But I think you could use Legion troops- Horus Heresy (yeh one of those need permission armies) or CSM or vanilla marines. And use a bunch of Dark angel iconography, maybe mixed in with knights.
      Right. That's it. I'm doing it. You forced my hand!

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    9. Gabe, it was a reference to the show "whose line is it anyway" chill mate, it is ridiculous that anyone but IG and CSM get cypher but you can't stop loyalists getting all the toys so they can throw them outta the pram later

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    10. " It would have made more sense for him to be csm and DA only."

      It would have made ZERO sense to have him capable of allying with the Dark Angels. Seriously, do people even READ the fluff nowadays? What next? You want Blood Angels to be able to ally with Abaddon and Ghazghkull Thraka? Maybe allow a Grey Knight/Chaos Daemon alliance? Honestly, people...

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    11. well with regard to the fluff i think most of it works perfectly as noone but the DA know about the fallen so to any other space marine army cypher could be just another DA or CSM and since the fallen are usually small groups it makes perfect sense to have him either on his own in an imperium or chaos army or with a small CSM force including some fallen
      the only problem i have is having him be able to be used in a space wolves army the DA and SW have a long rivalry and slight hatred of each other so when in any current universe of 40k would any space wolf work with a dark angel regardless of him being normal or fallen

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  2. Hmm really like this guy, but no invulnerable save on a character for the same price as Belial is quite risky.

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    1. Shrouded gives him essentially a 5+ against most shooting even in the open, and Eternal Warrior means the lack of invul is not too bad.

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  3. Really, the only issue he has is his meagre defense (3+, on invuln), otherwise he is quite powerful, especially for his price.
    With a squad that can dish out some nasty close-range fire and handle itself in melee, ideally one with counterattack to make the most out of his overwatch, I'd expect him to really shine. Space Wolves, for example.
    Also, it's good to have him finally back.

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    1. I kinda want to build a whole unit of Wolf Guard with bolt pistols and plasma pistols - Especially for the mission where Cypher is hidden inside a unit at start of game.

      The Altar of War missions all look pretty great.

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  4. Was the force-org slot issue ever resolved for data-slates. There's been a lot of buzz about it over at ATT and I haven't heard a definitive answer yet. The reason I ask is because, if you can run the chosen out of the black legion supplement like how you can run the Tau dataslate out of the Farsight supplement, then those Chosen could score. At least in a chaos army anyway.

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    1. *data-slates? (can't grammar today XD)

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    2. I imagine it is a nonissue. If it is worded the same way as the Belakor dataslate, then he is a unit chosen from codex csm. If you are using the formation rule instead, I don't think you can get them as troops because the formation is treated as a different detachment. Is he able to make chosen into fallen if he is taken as an HQ?

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    3. Yes, according to this post he can either be an HQ choice for Chaos Space Marines, or he can be a formation detachment with 0-3 units of Chosen.

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    4. Unfortunately that's right. The formation is not considered part of the same detachment. If you have a rule as is the case with the spirit seers where the type is changed to troops in the whole army, then it includes the formation. Black Legion is specifically the detachment.

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    5. "like how you can run the Tau dataslate out of the Farsight supplement"
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the net result of doing so, is that it allows the Riptide of the formation to select signature systems of the farsight enclaves?

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    6. That is correct. You can have a Firebase Riptide with Enclave goodies.

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    7. Also, it's 1-3 units of Chosen, so if you take him as a Detachment you HAVE to take at least 1 unit of Chosen. Now, this doesn't suck, especially for me, just a clarification...

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  5. It seems he only gives the extra victory points for surviving when facing against Dark Angels?

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    1. Against Dark Angels he either gains or gives away extra victory points, against anyone else nothing special with VPs

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  6. Can he join squads from your primary detachment, or does he have to go on his own?

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    1. He can join, and has the IC USR. The fact that he is shrouded and has ATSKNF will make for some very interesting unit combos.

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  7. Anyone tried buying the Kindle digitals from the BL-store? ...when they first offered this option it would eventually direct you to iTunes for the download, is that still the case, or do you download directly from BL? - Thanks!

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  8. I bought it from BL (the kindle version) and boy is it long. About 80% is background and fluff and was very in depth and interesting. It brought together pretty much all the existing fluff out there and looks like it definitely added some new stuff too. As for him as a character, for his cost he's worth it for what he brings to the table, and if you decide to play the missions (like 7 total) that were made with him in mind it can be extremely fun. Now just gotta figure out how to scrounge up the points at 1850 to include him in my WS/SW army

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  9. Can the fallen champions only be taken with chaos Marines? I would love to take that as an allied detachment for people, but 17$ is expensive for just cypher alone. Maybe a buy, but not sure yet

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    1. Formations follow the allies matrix. You wouldn't be able to run them with any imperial army except IG.

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  10. The mobi and epub versions both give the Chosen an option of purchasing a power fist for 5 points. I'm going to assume this is 25 points, as it is in the Chaos SM book ...

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    1. The interactive iPad version has the Power Fist at 25 points. Classic case of poor proof reading by GW staff once again I feel.

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  11. For those of you who will use the Fallen Champions, how do you intend to run it? Infiltrate plus 5 meltaguns or plasma guns per squad to pop vehicles and heavy infantry? Or will you take a balanced approach?
    How will you run the rest of the Chaos force, or will your main force be a different codex?

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  12. Somebody might have mentioned it but the Chosen can't take chaos marks but get And They Shall Know No Fear.

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  13. I like the fact his Plasma Pistol doesn't get hot, yet his former battle brothers, the self proclaimed masters of plasma weapons do get hot. This is clearly a case of the stolen Plasma Weapons Instruction Manual and the quest for the return of the same.

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    1. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess it's probably a combination of master-craftsmanship, weapon skills and the aura of sheer badassery that keep those plasma coils in check

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    2. Plus it was (probably) built in the pre-heresy era, when the Imperium actually knew how to build plasma weapons that didn't overheat and explode. Kind of like how only one forge world knows how to do the same, but only with the turret on a Leman Russ (but for some reason not the side sponsons)

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    3. Yep appears to be the rule of badassery.

      Think you are a badass? Can you wield a non overheating plasma weapon? No, then think again.

      Plus DA have one of the larges collections of pre-heresy technology in the fluff, but making the entire army 'gets hot' immune would be a little overkill.

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  14. Oh, I get it now - Despite being a Fallen Angel from the time before the Heresy, he must wear the current green armor instead of the pre-heresy black to blend in an ally with other Imperial forces.

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    1. Or he's just a dedicated follower of fashion...

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    2. Plenty of other chapters wear black, and his armour is described as unadorned - he doesn't wear the Legion heraldry. Additionally there's something about why the Angels, and Cypher, changed their colours...

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  16. just ran him with a squad of 15 nurgle Chaos marines in a 1500 pt game. i think i lost 3 the entire game jumping from ruins to ruins. so grabben 2 squads of Dark angels off ebay from DV and guna make me a fallen squad.

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