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The Tyranid Swarm


Of all the new releases, there is one that will jump you right into the collecting Tyranids with a large number models, The Tyranid Swarm.

Rumors have it that this box set will sell for $170USD and £105 and will contain 95 models. Of course you see the other rumored releases for Tyranids by following this link. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/12/more-tyranid-releases-red-terror-returns.html

So what will be in this massive box set of 95 models, lets check in on the latest rumor bits and take a look at a box combined box set that sounds like it will save you a few bucks over buying the kits individually.

Please remember that these are rumors, and always require a little salt.

via an anonymous source from the Faeit 212 inbox. 
The new Tyranid Swarm box set has 95 models and includes a good cost savings for buying this set. 
It includes:
40 Termagaunts
40 Hormagaunts
10 Gargoyles
1 Carnifex-with the options for One Eye
4 Ripper Swarms

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  1. No reason to get excited over this until we see the rules for these units. The only tyranid players I know are already drounding in more guants than they needs and runs dual Tervagon lists. Like most GW bundles the likelihood of this being a way to disseminate trap options to new players is always a possiblity.

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    1. They don't make "trap" options to try and trick people, that would be a ridiculous way to do business.

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    2. That's actually never happened in the history of ever. A "trap" in a business is a good way to see the doors closed.

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    3. What about the auto-include riptide/crisis suits for tau? Elite trap units. Where stealth we choose to include :p

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    4. I've run plenty of Tau lists without Riptides, and some without Crisis Suits. You can't say they're a "Trap" unit, they're the most adaptable thing in the Codex.

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    1. The Termagant sprue comes with Rippers, so if the contents are correct, they probably also counted 4 Ripper Swarms.

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    2. sorry, I cut the last line of the rumor and did not catch it. Updated now.

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  3. Thats a pretty good deal especially for $170. I gotta say I'm liking these Mega force sets alot more than the Battleforces so far. Tho I wonder what the other 4 models will be 40+40+10+1=91, warriors maybe or a hive Tyrant and guard that would be cool.

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  4. The thought of glueing together 180 little pieces to make those 90 heads is enough to keep me away from that kit.

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  5. Why is there a carnifex in that kit?...

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    1. I'm sorry, right after hitting the publish button, I thought of a very interesting response...

      Carnifex -> possible troop choice?!

      Like gargoyles with flyrant, that would confirm carnifex with shellrant? (and probably carnifex with a 2+ standard...)

      Only conclusions from a whishfuller point of vue, of course, but wouldn't that be awesome?!

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    2. Monster troop, I can hear the marine players cry already lol. That's a cool theory. It's not impossible?

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    3. Because dealing with a tervigon taking the relic wasn't bad enough >.>

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    4. Because dealing with a tervigon taking the relic wasn't bad enough >.>

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    5. yeah, a unit of 3 carnifex on the relic seems like a little much..
      But being a nid player, I would do it lol.

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    6. I would settle for Carnifexes getting a 2+. Would turn them from chumps to champs in one move, by actually making them immune to small arms fire.

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  6. As someone who is yet to start collecting Tyranids, I can see that box being useful. Obviously, for people who already have a sizeable Nid army this box won't mean much.

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    1. I think the point is to get people started with Tyranids. They often don't cater a giant bundle to people who already have 4000 points.

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    2. But it sucks for starters too..
      No beginner would should ever start with a force like that.
      Start small, ad fun models to keep that brush going.
      Noone wants to paint 80 gaunts in one go.
      80 gaunts in one box is what makes beginners give up.

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    3. Tyranids have always been rough on beginners.

      How solid is the rumor that you'll have to have 30 gants to run troop Tervigons?

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    4. @Captain: But Tyranids are all about the swarm and huge piles of gaunts/gants. Rumor has it they are all cheaper in points now too. That doesn't "suck" for starters, because no matter how you get into Tyranids, you need gaunts/gants. Getting them at a discount and all in one shot is just a sweet deal. An FLGS may not otherwise carry 4 boxes of Termagants, but one of these bundles is easy.

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    5. @McDoogle
      It might just be me, but when it comes to my Tyranids, buying them has never been the problem.
      It's painting them all that's keeping me from having 10000 points instead of the 4000 I have, not the money needed.
      I really don't care if I can get a discount on buying 80 Gaunts in one go. For me, picking up a new box at the store is the easy part, getting them ready for battle the real challenge.

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    6. Not everyone feels their models need to be painted before they hit the table, Cap'n. More's the pity, but there's the truth of it.

      So many people have complained for so long that GW has raised prices so far that it discourages new, young players to get into the game, and now they offer yet another sweet discount on a "starter" force, and still people are bitching? C'mon, guys... You can't have it both ways...

      I know a young lad who decided to start Eldar, and just last night his Mom picked up the Eldar Ghost Walkers boxed bundle at our FLGS, to give him a boost into the hobby so he could play bigger games, and because it's such a smokin deal...

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    7. Captain: Given that the most common complaint against GW is the pricing, I'd say that buying hordes of their models actually is the problem for a significant number of potential players. Painting comes afterwards, and GW would much rather see players fall down at the second hurdle than the first.

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    8. @jdwelsch62
      You are right, if you go unpainted, money would be a problem,
      With a full time job and family, my painting hours each week are sometimes quite few, and I only play fully painted and based.
      I do not buy a new box untill the models in the one I have is painted. One box a time, around once a month, I can always afford that, even if prices have increased.
      And if I just want gaunts, ebay throws them at you.

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  7. I have a hard time believing this one, every other box set contains an HQ option. So unless warriors are apart of this or Old One Eye became an HQ (that could be cool) I'm not sure this one is solid?

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    1. In an older edition Old One Eye could be taken as an HQ if the points value was less than 1000pts (if i remember correctly). A fragment of this was left over in 5th edition where Units within a certain range could use Old One Eye's leadership instead of their own. it might be nice if Old One Eye returned to HQ again, even if it is for armies less than a set number of points. Depends on his effectiveness though.

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    2. He's dropped by at least 40 points, and regenerates more reliably now.

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    3. Except for the Tau, Eldar, and SM flyer Mega boxes. No HQs in any of those. Even the traditional battleboxes do not have HQs in them. Neither did the old mega forces, very few had actual HQ units. Tau could always get away with it because crisis suits could be HQ.

      Now, before someone points out that there were a couple of bundles with HQ units in them (albeit only a couple), my point is that this bundle sans HQ does not necessarily vanquish this particular rumor.

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  8. Too many Hermagaunts to be useful. Unless they actually buff them which I doubt

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    1. Not happening. They get an extra 3" run.

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    2. Just dont see how the 3" extra run will really improve them in such a shooty edition. Unless you can say poop out Hormagaunts with Tervigons but I doubt that will happen.

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    3. Well, they are also cheaper too, and have some of their special rules built in now instead of having to buy them.

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    4. Which of the purchasable special rules is going to be built in now? Poison or Furious Charge?

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    5. I'm guessing onslaught will allow models with fleet to move run assault.

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    6. Also, the whole "I don't see how..." people start with when reading about a new codex just proves how little they know. Most assumed the new Eldar codex would be worse than the last one because Runes changed. Turns out they were WAY wrong. Same people claimed the Helldrake was no good at 170 points. Now there's 3 on every table.

      The point is, looking at what a unit was last edition vs. this edition doesn't mean anything. Analyzing units in a vacuum doesn't mean anything. Genestealers and Hormagaunts may not have changed much from last edition, but the rest of the codex may be dramatically different and thus they didn't have to change.

      Tyranids are all about synergy and creating threat priority. If this book does that better, Genestealers and Hormagaunts will be fine. Especially since the latter is now cheaper. It's not like Hormagaunts are running up the field without help.

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    7. And being such a low point model to begin with, you don't have to do much tweaking to make H-gaunts awesome. Even at 5 pts, drop the cost of morphs, build in something like FC or poison (or assault grenades!) and they'd be *scary* even before the 3"+ to run moves.

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  9. I guess old one Eye has to be the HQ choice, unless a clam shell is omitted from the list. I still have a 180 hormagaunts left from 3rd so won't be going for the box. The Carnifex duo box looks interesting though.

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  10. Ok If we do some maths something not adding up. the 80 termagants and hormagaunts would cost £144 with another £18 for Gargoyles and then £32.50 for the carnifex making a grant total of £194.5 which is too much of a saveing.

    Now if we use the example of the rumers of there being 20 model sets for £20, and a 2 carnifex brood for £55 this will make the set £125, a saveing of £20 which makes more sence.

    so in short, if we do see that amny models for that price, I do think there be the cheaper easy build models, like the 5 teragonts for £6.

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    1. No I don't think so as for starters Hormagaunts don't have snap fit models. I do have the sneaking suspicion however that the new re-boxed Gaunts and the ones in this bundle will NOT have their biomorph upgrade frames included and will just be the basic Gaunt frames because apart from anything else if the biomorph upgrades where included then I could make a hell of a lot more than 4 Ripper Swarms.

      Also not convinced about new parts in the Fex kit. I would have thought we would have seen images by now. I think the new Fex kit is just a bundle like the Storm Wing or Restless Undead bundles but I can always hope it's a new kit as the age is starting to show now in the detail quality.

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  11. Has there been anything leaked or suspected about Deathleaper yet?

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    1. Supposedly he's an upgrade to a lictor brood. I hope he's still as fun as his 5th ed incarnation

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    2. Now I loved the deathleaper model, but he was the single worst model in the 5th ed nid book. 160 points that dies to just about anyone's shooting, can't survive more than one round of combat.. It was sad. I would love to see him worth something in the new book

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    3. I disagree wholeheartedly, he wasn't top tier but he certainly wasn't the worst. You ever try pyrovores? haha. He's also pretty tough to take down, generally because of his 2+ cover. An excellent disruption unit

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    4. 3 T4 wounds, 5+ save, so much takes cover away, and he is not killy in the slightest. The only thing he was really good for was his -Ld ability and no matter how you slice it 160pts was an insane premium for him. I'm *really* hoping Lichtors/DL become relevant in this book, one of my favorite models and fluff in the game.

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    5. Deathleaper is 140pts in the 5th ed Codex not 160. Still far too expensive when there's so much that ignores cover though. The mechanic he had with halving night fight distance was ok, but 6th ed really killed any chance of him staying alive.

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  12. Are we to assume that this would be the biggest Tyranids box that will be released? Kind of hoping for a Mega Force with some new models as well.

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    1. This box is about entering Tyranids for a discount. It's not for veterans who already have a boatload of Termagants and Hormagaunts.

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  13. I like the note about "Options for Old One Eye" given that the current Carnifex sprue already includes the all options needed to make Old One Eye. Given how good the kit is, I don't see why it would be changed.

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  14. Er...where's the synapse?

    Can't see that being a self-contained starting point at all.

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    1. I know right?

      Would have expected at least 1 box of the new warriors.

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