The magazines are out now, and people are getting their first magazines. There is a huge difference between Warhammer Visions and White Dwarf weekly when taking a look at the first editions of the magazines.

The image above is a released image from Games Workshop of the two magazines

via a reader on Faeit 212
Just got my hands on the new Warhammer: Visions, and to be honest, I feel there will be a lot of disappointed people on Saturday.
This issue is basically a large picture book of last months releases, there are no articles whatsoever, just page upon page of pictures with descriptions. Also, it's multilanguage, the UK edition has comments in English, French and German.
Also, worth noting, the Battle Report within the pages is going to get a lot of flak. It is basically about 4 pages of pictures and then a result at the end, no points, no description of what is going on, just annotated photos.


Warhammer Visions is a new monthly magazine, and from the first impressions I have seen and read, its largely a pictorial showcasing of GW models. In fact people will be surprised on just how little is said in the magazine, especially since the magazine is written in English, German, and French (on each page). While inspiration pics are nice, there is so many pics, that there is little else in it. Its no wonder there are so many armies missing from Warhammer World's display cases. Wondering why Grey Knights were not there...... out for photos for the new magazine. So if a lot of pictures of models is what you are looking for, this is your magazine.

White Dwarf weekly is very much the same magazine, now released every week, and with rules added, which we wanted. It seems that this is the magazine people will be interested in, rather than visions. It focuses on much the same as before, with releases, pics, and battle reports. While its nice that there will be a digital edition, I think White Dwarf weekly is where most hobbyist would want a subscription to, if only they could.

here is a video showcasing both magazines over that was found on The Shell Case

video by montysreviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

Thanks to CrAzY424 from the 40k Warzone for pointing us to this video.

Now to be fair, this is what GW has announced for the magazines. This is from their website, so if you were expecting something else, then obviously we were not paying attention.

via Games Workshop
White Dwarf, now weekly.
Available exclusively through Games Workshop stores, independent retailers, and games-workshop.com. White Dwarf is an exciting and essential weekly hobby magazine that contains something for every hobbyist, every week - guaranteed!
·    36 pages of everything that is exciting and new in the hobby this week.
·    Detailed information on all the week’s other new releases, and the latest hobby news.
·    New features, new modelling and painting techniques, new rules, new columnists and much more.
·    All this every week for the same price as a single Citadel pot of paint!
Issue No.1 launches Saturday 1st Feb and subsequent issues follow every Saturday

Warhammer: Visions, now monthly.
Experience a visual feast of super high-quality Citadel Miniatures.  In more than 230 pages you’ll find a completely new take on the worlds of Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 in a stunning new extended pictorial style.
·    Contains all your favourite sections from Army of the Month and Blanchitsu, to Kit Bash and Paint Splatter.
·    Over 70 more pages than the previous monthly White Dwarf with more Golden Demon and Armies on Parade photos and more fantastic photographs of Citadel miniatures than ever before.
And it’s wrapped up in a fabulous new format that you will want to keep and collect! Issue No.1 out Saturday 1st February

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  1. What a strange, strange, strange direction to go in.

    I finally figured out what Visions reminds me of - it's like one of those overpriced books at a museum that has close up pictures of the different pieces on display and a few lines of text. Not sure why I'd want it...

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    1. I think that's what they are aiming for... a collector's "art book". Hobby content goes in WDW, "pretty" pictures in Visions.
      I'll see how it goes over the remaining 9 months of my digital subscription, but I have a feeling I'll replace my sub with a WDW sub (if they start offering one)

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    2. Its always been a catalouge.
      Now its just more like a mercedes catalouge with nice big pics and minimal Text.
      They dont want to overstress oure brians.

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    3. you know i'm not really one for GW bashing but i can't feel anything but disappointed at this point.
      Really tempted to take up the challenge me and a friend of mine discussed to do with taking an old white dwarf to Warhammer world and leaving it in GW's suggestion box with a note:
      this be good... new be bad... this make me want to buy cool things... new make me want to cancel my sub.
      Just feel like the marketing division over there just doesn't get what people want sometimes and need someone to just tell them directly whether something is good or not :/
      Of course there wouldn't be a problem if GW actually tested ideas with hobbyist first with sample groups but i guess that would be against GW's 'don't tell the fans about anything until last moment' policy. :(

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    4. Definitely want my subscription switched to the weekly one then. Will be taking this up with Apple as I have a digital subscription until april and do not want 4 months of crap instead of 16 weeks of something like I paid for.

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    5. Yes, it is very very odd. I could understand if they had touted it as a quarterly art book. I might have been interested in buying something like that once or twice a year, but this? No thanks. WDW had better be dam good.

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    6. @Nostok - the problem there would be WDW isn't available through the WD iPad Newsstand app. There are no digital subscriptions for WDW yet... so they can't switch you to anything else.

      I can't help but feel they've got this a bit messed up. On one hand, they're giving us more, and more frequent hobby content - which is fantastic - but they've given us less options to get it (paper or non-subscription eBook only). The other magazine which *does* give us all the options for getting it doesn't appear to give us the content we want.

      Like I've said before, it wouldn't be GW if they didn't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

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    7. More? Four issues of WDW have fewer pages than a WDM, and are about 20% more expensive. Granted, it is more useful now, and I'm happy for that. I'll call it a good start.

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  2. I predict that GW will kill Visions in future. I am fine with WD weekly. It seems ok with Battle reports, picutres of new models, rules and paintint tips. But the price is overkill.

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    1. I wonder if Visions is some sort of stop-gap to help fulfill the end of the old WD subscriptions? I can't imagine it getting many new subscribers and it sure going to lose subscribers in droves.

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    2. As someone with one remaining token of my subscription, I'm heading to WH World to see if I can get the last copy of January's WD instead of having to waste it on this waste of ink.

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    4. My money says that Visions doesn't see issue #4. Not as a monthly anyways.

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    5. It has the potential to be something great if they concentrated a lot more on the creative aspect of the hobby and used the weekly to focus on rules and stuff.
      Throw some in-depth heavy metal painting and kitbash guides in there with detailed descriptions like we know they can do. Give some insight into the design process of the models, show concept ideas and so on.. I think that is more what fans were expecting for the title and pricetag.

      As it is, its just GW pulling a fast one again and charging premium for lazy and poor quality but it isn't too late to turn it around and make it worthy of the price tag so hears hoping.

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  3. I'm kind of disappointed in the Visions magazine. It would have been great had it focused just on images of models we hadn't seen before, like hobbyist armies, Blanch models, Golden Demon minis, and so on. I love looking at those images. Random pics of the studio armies on different boards? No thanks.

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    1. There's only so many studio armies and I'm sure it will be expanded to have great shots of consumer painted models in the future.

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    2. Here's hoping! That's the stuff that inspires me to buy more models and expand forces.

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    3. Indeed. The first 40 pages of studio Nid models had me worried, but then the hobbyists / forgeworld stuff get me excited again.

      Although I've now ruined the surprise for Saturday... Silly Jedi.

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  4. I kinda guessed this but thought I must be wrong. It's like they've never heard of a Google image search.

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  5. Visions sounds good to me personally as a commission painter (good quality pics of well painted minis are useful inspiration) and will make an excellent coffee table book, also as you said they made it clear in their statement what it might contain so anyone who's seen that and still gets up in arms about it really needs to learn how to read more carefully.

    WD weekly does sound like more of a big seller however and will most likely catch less flack from the angry internet warrior types.

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    1. I have a WD subscription, I want a WD and not the contents of their camera flung haphazardly onto A5 paper.

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    2. So how long have you been an 'angry internet warrior type' then? ;)

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    3. About 30 minutes aka about halfway through the video that reviewed WV. :-\

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    4. I'm miffed at this as well. I have a digital subscription thankfully only until April. I'll take the first issue and see if I can get a refund or something because this blows.

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  6. Im not a GW basher, but what this seems to be a case off is split the old monthly white dwarf into 4 issues, and charge about 50% more for it. (Cant remember the page length or old cost per issue). Why not just keep the old white dwarf, and include all the new rules stuff etc? I know they are going for weekly releases, but they could always do the same with the same monthly magazine. I cant see visions lasting in the current format. Mi certain,y wont be buying it. If its in the shop, i will browse through it, but not buy it.

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    1. Its shrink wraped and so!

      They do what they want away. Best is to stop buying until things turn better.
      They have to lose more than 35% customers before they care about Profit again

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  7. I'm going to reserve final judgement for a few months. Hopefully it will evolve. First thoughts would be that if it had much bigger Kitbash, Paint Splatter and Battle Report sections (with text) I'd be more interested, as then it would feel a lot more like a hobby magazine (with WDW being the marketing magazine).

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    1. my thought exactly, although I'm interested to have high quality print images of 'Eavy Metal team painted miniatures to check how stuff is painted, kit bashed etc anyway...... so I'm in the "will be surprised if I'm disappointed" side of things. :-D

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    2. Except for the fact that GW and the Eavy Metal team does tend to use photo shop on some of there models to help fix mistakes and make the models look better. Just like McDonalds does to make there burger look more appetizing

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  8. Maybe I am alone in this but these are my toughts:

    WD: 5 minutes low quality reaing
    WV: Extremely interesting showcase

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    1. I could agree with you actually. Perfect magazine to pick up and head down to the pub for an hour of nice photos and inspiration. I always liked to look at other peoples dioramas and creations.

      I might pick it up once a month.

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    2. If only wv wasnt all old pics from the interweb!

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    3. Seb, can you give an example or two of where GW has lifted pictures from the internet? I may not like the Visions format thus far, but I don't think anyone can say that they're stealing someone else's photography...

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    4. I think he means the pictures are just from the website, I've seen some of them there before

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  9. Personally, I liked visions... but then again I had interest in the pics they chose to put in. While pictures of painted models are everywhere online, few are done in studio quality or with such variety.

    As for WD, I feel it was worth my 4 bucks, but again, I had interest in what they put in it. Ultimately the advantage comes to the buyers that want to cherry pick their content. I have more then a few friends who had absolutely no interest in this issue... but they don't play dwarves or 'nids. If the issue had been on something like Tau or Skaven, then they would own a copy each and I would have probably passed.

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    1. You sound entirely too reasonable about all this, Christopher...

      JK, I agree with you. Just not sure if my just-renewed old WD digital subscription will net me WDW, or Visions. I've received nothing in the mail or by email to tell me either way. Gonna call GW Cust Svc tomorrow morning, see if they can enlighten me...

      I got to check out WDW (hard copy) tonight at my FLGS, and I liked what I saw. Gonna have to wait until tomorrow to see what Visions is like...

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  10. In my opinion they made a even 2 more inferior products of an already mediocre at best product.

    White Dwarf got really thinner and thinner in case of editorial content over the years, because thats what takes real effort make and can get expensive, and maybe does not fell like it can drive sales.

    With Visions they simply recycle their photo assets, we see on their website, their newsblog, in WD weekly, WH Visions and Rulesbooks and Codices and armybooks. Totally now need for that.

    They really refuse of investing into a comprehensive and substantial print product. Stuff like WD weekly is done as a free advertisment product elsewhere.

    This is hideous.

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  11. Were the Mags shrink wrapped ?

    They started to shrink wrap WD recently, because they feared people will take a look inside before they buy it and discover the poor offering, leading them not to buy WD at all, like it was with me.

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    1. Not only is Visions shrink wrapped, but it also has a band around it that is tacked to the magazine itself so you definitely can't sneak a peak.

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    2. White Dwarf however, is not shrink wrapped.

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    3. Chirs U mean the WD weekly is not wrapped ?

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    4. Correct, WDW is not shrink wrapped, and it's printed on hight quality glossy paper. It's not a flimsy sales rag. It's encouraging, but I've converted to digital for just about everything I do (except the FW books, alas), so I'm anxious to know how that's going to be handled...

      But WDW looks good, very nice...

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  12. Well, so much for content. This is really frickin' annoying. I have paid for 7 more months of White Dwarf magazine, and now I just get to look at the pictures. And now, for the same amount of content as the previous WD, I'm paying $16 extra each month.

    And GW still wonders why its profits are going down.

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    1. Get in touch with them... they might be able to sort something out for you because really they have changed the magazine so much you probably have grounds for a pro rata refund.

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    2. When I switched from my WD mail subscription to WD digital 2 years ago, they cut me a check for the pro-rated amount of my subscription, got it in the mail in less than a week. No muss, no fuss, just answered my questions, canceled my hard copy sub & mailed me a check.

      Don't freak out, folks, GW Cust Svc is very good. Just give 'em a call, and be polite...

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  14. Did anyone really think it was going to anything more than a glorified sales catalog?

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  15. I'm not going to comment on content until I've seen one. I'm a GW apologists after all. But bragging about an extra 70 pages when they've reduced the page size by around 33%, seems a little cynical!

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    1. It would be like demanding extra pay from my employers for going from a five to seven day working week, while dropping my working day from eight hours to four.

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  16. I'm quite sure warhammer visions is meant to be read on a tablet rather than on paper...

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  17. Pondering this, it seems GW wants out of subscription services in order to use White Dwarf as bait to draw people into brick-and-mortars and the website. This is why its coupled with weekly releases, to increase foot/web traffic in the hopes that folks will start buying more from those locales where they have the highest profit margins.

    If they were serious about magazine content, they would turn to the material that GW uniquely has in their control and cannot be gotten elsewhere - rules, comments on game design, interviews with sculptors, Fluff stories, future releases etc. In other words, the things that used to be in WD.

    Visions is the exact inverse of that model and they must be aware of that. The majority of consumers will simply get their GW images and painting tutorials for free on the internet instead of paying to get it from GW.

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  18. Really disappointed with visions - I realise it will appeal to some, but it seems anyone who is interested in fluff is out of luck. Also I don't understand how a company that pushes narrative gaming can't write a battle report with a compelling story to it once a month.

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  19. Wait: a publication called "Warhammer VISIONS" is mostly pictures? :O

    Why is anyone surprised by this?

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    1. It should be WARHAMMER PICTURES!

      This just hidden pricehike on WD & f.over selling pictures only as a seperat product / catalouge.
      Really... the annual catalouge is a better buy.

      We all Know these 2 new Mini advert Books are not going to stay in the longrun!

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  20. In case this wasn't covered before, or if anyone didn't know, I just got word back from GW about the subscription vouchers:

    "Thanks for writing in to us. Your vouchers can still be redeemed at your Hobby Center. While they are intended to be used for Warhammer: Visions, the monthly publication, you can redeem them towards the weekly White Dwarf."

    I have four of vouchers left, so it's good to know they can still be used.

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  21. You know, I actually was kinda excited for Visions. I expected a magazine with tons of articles, Armies on Parade, Blanchitsu, Paint Splatter and huge, lavish pictures. It would have been awesome.
    And what do we get? A small booklet with reused pictures, next to no text, no articles, and some embarrasingly small conversion/color scheme 'guides'.
    I had been looking forward to Visions because it sounded amazing, like a callback to older WDs. I own every WD since 1997, but with this I must say: No. No, thank you.
    Better guides/conversions/whatever can be found online, so I suppose this is the best time to gracefully bow out.
    Now cracks a noble heart. Good night, sweet dwarf: And scores of brewers sing thee to thy rest!

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    1. Overall I agree with you. The only thing I found interesting in the whole 230 pages was the 10ish pages of painting guide for the numerous hive fleets and splinter fleets. I don't even play Tyranids!

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    2. Completely agree. This sucks.

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    3. It's really sad the way that the once mighty WD (by 'once' I mean about 20 years ago) has been emasculated and denuded, becoming this weak and pitiful creature.

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  22. I wonder if the switch to weekly was so that they can advertise their releases while still keeping to the contractual obligations for the Hobbit. IIRC didn't GW have to not advertise anything over a week out from its release.

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  23. To please hobbyists and show good faith as a company that is consumer driven, it might have been better for them to make the weekly mag a free catalogue that comes out the week prior to releases. Pics/descriptions of models including sprues, and price points as well as sneak peeks of next weeks big ticket item. For the size of visions it should be a quarterly and include detailed battle reports for all supported systems each issue (but not necessarily the most recent releases) painting and modeling tutorials, terrain/table building tutorials, etc. It can be an obviously gw product without being a catalogue of itself, and that seems to be what people want. I remember 14 years ago when I started playing and I couldn't afford much as a poor teenager, but the $50 sub to WD made up for my lack of playtime with all the hobby content. Times change I suppose.

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  24. Am I the only one who misses the freebies they used to package with white dwarf?

    I remember an issue where they gave me a terminator and a ork boy....


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  25. I liked the general build for the new Warhammer Visions, but mine arrived pretty torn up.. I also liked the picture-heavy approach, and I thought that the first White Dwarf weekly was really thin on content..

    They're both disappointing honestly.

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    1. This was exactly my thought. I've just seen the video review and I am really really saddened by this. Who do we contact to work out cancelling subscriptions and refunds etc. because all the bits I like are gone.

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  27. so I've heard mention of rules, what type of rules where in this first issue?

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    1. There is a Dwarven Lord in the first issue of White Dwarf Weekly

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  28. It appeared that 60% of Visions was original (or at least not seen in every codex) content and I must say that I'm quite excited for a magazine about well painted miniatures. It was called 'Visions' not 'Wordses' so I'm not sure how some people expected something other than a bucket full of pictures.

    I imagine if you're one of those grey-plastic-army-covered-in-mouldlines types then you're not going to be best pleased with this change, but let's be honest if you don't like looking at beautifully painted models, you're in the wrong hobby!! And if you don't like looking at beautifully painted models enough to pay for the privilege, then don't pay and enjoy telling all of your friends that you told them so in 12 months when Visions gets canned like Inferno did...

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    1. The problem is if you have a subscription you have been shafted.

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    3. When I read this article it was 3am, I live in Luxembourg. So even if I wanted to there was no one to call. I am familiar with the concept of a telephone, dialling numbers, and evenin conversing with the individual that answers; I have even been known to navigate telephone automated systems through use o a keypad. I also know that using three question marks is somewhat redundant and that Natfka would prefer us to keep civil on here.

      You may note that I comment fairly regularly on here and often in great support of GWs Digital products, this is now why I do not know who I need to talk to as I have an Apple iTunes subscription to WD. I have directly contacted Eddie on the GW Digital Editions FB page as he comes back with info like this fairly quickly.

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    4. Unfortunately, if you love beautifully painted miniatures, the studio armies won't cut it. The parade ground section is nice, but too small to warrant the price tag of the magazine.

      Especially if you can see more and even better quality work by the best painters in the business at place like CoolMiniOrNot for free.

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  29. I looked through this Visions yesterday. The first 70ish pages were all the products that were released this month. Nothing cool. The Battle Report, Blanchitsu, conversion corner and golden demon/army on parade were nice but nothing to get excited about.

    To be frank, the weekly magazine is likely to sell like crazy if they continue to put rules, scenarios, etc in them. If you used properly, managers should be able to use them as a final add on item for sales or as an effective tool to launch/support sales conversations. However, like the Tyranid Codex (sorry you lot) the Visions (at least this first issue) Games Workshop dropped the ball on. Coming from me (and the few that know me) that is saying a lot.

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    1. To add on, there is going to be some consumer blow back with this change up. First month or two will see a spike in sales but once the honeymoon is over, I feel a lot of hobbyist are going to move for divorce.

      Games Workshop might not listen to their fans/supporters complaints but they will with the low sales.

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    2. They said in their annual Report that they see everything moveing on to be just fine and profits going back up again (for no reason given). Their Report says they have 35% decline in sales and only due to cost cuttint are down less.
      Sorry but they never have and never will give a ....! And Not even when they lose money. After all they get paid either way. And customers and stockholders are only secondary.

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  30. I'm not going to even buy a single issue. Its a pity with what they have done.

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    1. Hi, I read your ToP blog avidly, (keep up the good work on that by the way)

      I would have thought that the Visions mag would of been of interest to you guys, well once you get past the pages and pages of dull nids that is.

      I am interested as to what you dont like about it?

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    3. Hey Cheers Connor,

      To be honest I wish White Dwarf remained the same as it was in 2011 before the first change. It had a lot of interesting articles, painting guides and game reports.

      I probably will though pick up a few of the weeklies if they have extended rules and such.

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  31. Why the drama? It's called 'Visions'- you guys were expecting loads of text/rules etc? Reminds be of some of my Japanese modeling books/magaines- it's a showcase, plain and simple. And it looks nice. I'll grab a copy.

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    1. After getting through that youtube preview... i'd be happy if they dropped the battle report and had more art. More Dainton please.

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    2. The drama for me is that is not the bit of white dwarf I want my subscription to turn into. I am starting to feel quite bitter about this.

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    3. Understand in regard to the subscriptions... Is there an option to cancel with a pro rata refund or credit?

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    4. I'm hoping, for paper based ones it is clear you contact GW and arrange that. I have a digital one via apple so not sure how to do this. I've contacted Eddie on the FB page to see as he is normally quick at coming back with info.

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  32. For what it's worth, I put in a cancellation and refund request through Apple for my WD subscription and just received an email approving it - I should get my whole subscription fee back in 7-10 days!

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    1. Just out of interest, what was the process for doing this? I don't know where to go/who to contact for the refund/cancelation. Cheers.

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  33. Are we really surprised that something called "Visions" would contain mostly visual content?

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    1. Yeah, I expected something visionary, not some dull Warhammer Vistas.
      Something that says : Guys you are our customers, our very reason of existence, we love you. So here, we made something for you withl love and a premium price tag.. All Ive seen of visions is BS, its not even a well made picture book. just total screw up.

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  34. Here's my problem: those of us not interested in the picture book are being asked to pay pretty well double ($11 to $20 [CAD]) and in four store-visting installments (yes our time and gas factor) for something less than what it was — Blanchitsu, Kit Bash, and Paint Splatter are replaced by more product catalog pages. If you want Weekly and Visions, it's going to cost you quite a bit more than the previous bill for White Dwarf Monthly.

    Split your product into a bunch of pieces, fill with hot air, and charge more. Awesome work, Gee-Dub!

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  35. What I find unusual is that visions is the newsstand magazine, while WD is only sold in stores. How is a collection of pictures with very little context going to be an introduction to the hobby for newbies?

    If they wanted to make a coffee table book, they should have used nice cardstock, and specially commissioned art to accompany these pictures. And words. Doesn't have to be a lot, just enough to introduce a theme for each picture story.

    Part of the problem is that GW doesn't hire people who have experience in magazine publishing. Apart from Jes, none of them have ever worked in media before. Even Jes was in fringe, rather than mainstream publishing. They hire people who have either come up through the ranks as store managers, or people who reflect gender diversity. Sorry to say it shows in the final product.

    This was a rush job. Badly thought out, and badly put together.

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  36. I'm not saying it's right or even a good thing but what do you expect from a magazine called' Vissions'?

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    1. True and we should all have expected it really. Still sad about it though.

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    2. Visions: Dreams, Hallucinations, Apparitions, Ideas, Visualisation, Revelations, Insight, Concept, Images

      That's what I expected!

      Before criticising people for their expectations, please take the time to learn the word you are speaking about.

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    3. You expected hallucinations and apparitions??

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  37. Sounds like I won't continue my subscription then, and instead just pick up WDW when there is something I want in there.

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    1. Where is the like button on this thing.

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  38. I can't believe anyone like Visions. It really goes to show that GW could sell a turd in a box and some people would still say "i always wanted a turd in a box". I will be buying neither.

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    1. Or, it could just mean that other people have different tastes and likes to yourself and see the merit in it that you do not.
      For me I'm more into the painting/modelling side of the hobby and so Visions is more appealing as an inspirational book filled with excellent pics of beautiful minis, it's just not the same viewing them on a screen to me.
      The quality look and feel is part and parcel of the appeal.

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    2. Is the turd limited edition though and signed by its creator?

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  39. It is sad to see what GW is doing to itself. I already stop my suscription shortly after the 'new' WD came out, which I don't like, and haven't bought one since then. In the light of this news, I can say that I will not buy an other one for what seems to be a long time...

    I have spent the last 20 years following GW, but the last 2 years have been dry, and this seems to be the worst decision in a long serie of bad decisions.

    wait and see

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  40. is it just me or do these new WD seen very soulless now. With all the plastic terrain and boards I don't think they capture the theme of the hobby as much as they did a few years back.

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    1. I agree. Visions is the fade to advertising destination White Dwarf has wanted to be for more than 15 years. The most insidious thing is that this "reimagining" has been repackaged into circumstances meant to make the potential customer feel as though some great service is being done to them.

      In moving to a format where no material is actually being produced (ie editorial, articles, adcopy,) they are reducing production costs. while still having the audactity to believe they are entitled to our money for nothing. Companies like Dragon and Tamiya distribute very nice looking photo montages of their models built and painted by internationally renowned model makers to entice people to buy them but they don't expect you to foot the bill for their advertisements.

      In all seriousness will there be any requirement for a visions staff beyond a photographer or two and someone to do layouts? As a painter and modeller I want context to place a photograph in. What is the point of showcasing, "the best models in the world" if there is no commentary on methodology or treatment? What is the point if there is no how or why? There are few companies that I am familiar with that so make such a concerted effort to disengage themselves from their clientele. Every year brings a, "New Coke" moment.

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    2. well dont get me wrong, as a painted more than a gamer I do really like the idea of massive showcase mag every month. I just think they have gone about it is a slightly wrong way. (take with a pinch of salt as I have not yet read visions)

      if the showcase was a mag full of different peoples armies and models then it may be quite an interesting read. From watching the vid I can see a whole lot of studio armies. Don't get me wrong Eavy metal are fantastic painters but page after page of models that you can see on the box or website seems a bit boring and lazy.

      The other issue I have with the way GW have gone is all the terrain they make. It does look nice but there is only so many realm of battle boards you can see before you find yourself flicking through old WD copies to see the interesting and imaginative boards and games. For a hobby company that is based around creativity it is looking very plasticy and toy-ish.

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  41. Saw em both.

    Visions is utterly worthless.

    White Dwarf weekly is to expensive for 30 odd pages. For the first time in 21 years, I put White Dwarf back on the shelf. I will only buy the issues that are relevant now. Well done GW. Well done.

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  42. Looking at Visions review (thanks for it!!) I think I'm going to ask for a compensation for my three vouchers left. Why? I expected some drawings/art. Forgeworld pics can be seen online (maybe not the very same pictures, but enough to get the idea). Too much "release centered" about last month release. I hate paint splatter painting techniques (base, layer, wash. Rinse and repeat) and I think they are too basic for a "visual feast". Lack of some kind of 'Eavy metal masterclass. Kit bash not bigger than in previous WD. Lack of interest battle report (I'm not interested in them since they decided not to stick to their own rules about points or FOC). And finally, HOBBIT PICTURES!! That's too much.

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  43. I am a long time subscriber to White Dwarf and yes some are better than others I can live with that. 30 minutes after these publication arrived this morning I emailed GW to complain and ask for a refund on subscription. Early this evening response from GW yes they will be giving me a refund. I feel very let down by GW I feel they have lost the plot and don't seem to recognise me anymore as a customer.

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