There is a new Space Wolf flyer coming next week, that comes with two options. Space Wolves are here with a new flyers that look capable of competing with the Stormraven.

Please remember that this is still a rumor. 

via an anonymous source in Faeit 212
It will come in 2 versions:
First - 215 points
One - assault transport with TL hell frost cannon
Two fire modes:
- s6 ap3, blast, then it forces a Str test. If the test is failed, the enemy dies
- s8 ap1 , heavy 1 - rest is the same
16 models capacity
Heavy Bolters with MMelta or Skyhammer Option
Second: 220 points
6 models capacity
Hell frost cannon (the same as above)
Storm Strike missile
Both flyers have Machine Spirit and Ceramite plating.

The model will cost as much as a storm raven.

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    1. Agreed, seems a bit over the top to me. I could be wrong but this looks like wishful thinking.

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  2. If this is true, I hope it's not as expensive (money-wise) as the DA flyer, and looks better

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    1. The rumour says it will be as much as a storm raven, so a bit more expensive than the DA flyer if this is true.

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    2. The DA flyer is beautiful imho

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    3. The DA flyers is one of the most aesthetically pleasing flyers in the game.

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    4. I'd have got one long ago to take in a allied detachment for my Wolves if wasn't for the fact I'd have to take Sammael to go pure Ravenwing.

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  3. Definitely hope it's an improvement over the Nephilim.

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    1. everything is an improvement over the nephilim. Worst flyer in game....

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    2. Rules-wise, the Nephilim is okay, good at dogfighting light flyers like Dakka Jets. But for the points? Noooooo...

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  4. If it is true looks like GW is sticking to the 'release some models and then the Codex' deal, which is the part that truly blows. I just ordered a Fire Raptor for my Wolves, but this is intriguing if it doesn't look stupid.

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    1. I'm kinda surprised I was talking to a manager at a lgs and he mentioned how slow the new model sales were until after the codex release.

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    2. Dude, the Fire Raptor is an excellent model. Was a bit sceptical after having to endure building the Storm Eagle ( shudders ) bit the Raptor is a big improvement. Only needed to fill small gaps with the landing gear bays and one of the engine/fuselage connections. Other than that a fun build, and IMHO much better looking than any of the plastic flyers

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    3. Then email them and voice your opinion. Why must this be said so often? Is it that you people think bitching about it to random people on the internet will get results? Email GW and tactfully tell them you think this release order is stupid. If they get flooded, things will change. Expecting them to read your random internet comments is dumber than this reverse release order business.

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  5. Fenris turned into a salt mine over the last week...

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  6. That sounds like a *really* good unit if true. Like a Stormraven on steroids for the same cost.

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  7. so how long before all the marine players who b*tched endlessly about the drake, now turn around and call this fair

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    1. ...about as quickly as all of the CSM players use the heldrake as 'counts as'.

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    2. Or about as long as it was realised that the Necron players could take flyers for troops

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    3. This marine player is calling this flyer unadulterated cheese (assuming it's real). Happy?

      Least your flyer (Nephilim) isn't so bad that all you hear is "why did you take that?" or "that's sub-optimal" from annoying backseat gamers.

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    4. I mean the Nephilim is the flyer for we Dark Angels. I could have worded that sentence better -_-

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    5. about as long as people realized that new stuff wasn't in fact a money grab. oh wait that hasn't happened yet.....

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    6. Nephilim may be bad/terrible but i think it's one of the best looking , like it could actually fly, looks like a jetfighter.....i'm alone maybe but it's what i envisioned for the vanilla one [looks wise]

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    7. That's why I like it (despite the awful points cost for what you get). I think it looks bloody gorgeous and it fits the Ravenwing style beautifully.

      Besides, even though it's bad rules-wise it tends to be exaggerated. It's decent at taking out light flyers and infantry with its S6 Bolter and Missiles. Just that the points are way too high for what you get but I reckon it's not catastrophically awful crunch-wise.

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    8. Got pawned by a Nephilim in my last game vs DA it turned my beautiful crushing victory into a minor defeat. Taking my daka jet out then strafing my objective holders and making them run. It's not a bad flyer just coud do with a 20 or so points drop

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  8. This will be the worst flyer in the game. Youll be paying for that hell frost cannon that you wont even get to use because you cant snapshot it after jimking. Blast weapons on flyers arecepic failure

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    1. It has two fire modes on the main cannon so you can snap shot that

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    2. Till I see the AV line, not backing you there. I run a Fireraptor with 360 AV12... you don't jink, there's no point. Unless Tau, forts, or a Hydra are across the table from you everything Str6+ has too few shots to be a threat. Heck even at S6 it's still ~1in36 odds to get one glance per shot.

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    3. Nice, I also do not jink with my fire raptor

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  9. Also calling bullcrap just based off of the transport capacity.

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    1. the transport capacity might be a solution to the blood claws problem. I mean being able to deposit blood claws into a unit of tau and survive the insertion. We didn't have a deep striking transport with a 15 or 16 model capacity.

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  10. I am lost for words. Dont know what to think. Just want the codex to drop so we will finally know what is what.

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  11. Hopefully the SW codex doesn't take forever to drop like the Ork codex did, anticipation is killing me!!

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    1. it will. builds excitement......or something. would hazard a guess that this is what we will be seeing from now on. models first, then codex. so save your money and bide your time. end of month is time to spend. [or bi monthly if like orks, 1-2 month release [over 6-8 weeks] is likely]

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  12. Kinda goes against SW fluff. They HATE flying. I always thought it'd make more sense to give SW a bunch of anti-air options to make up for not having flyers, like being able to take Hunter/Stalkers in squadrons, or Long Fangs can take flak missiles for free...

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    1. It is not against the fluff at all. They hate teleporting. Flying is not a problem with the Wolves.

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    2. In fact flying never was a problem since 2nd ed. - fluff wise.

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    3. The misconception about Wolves hating flying kills me. I'm going to start saying Militarum don't use artillery, or Blood Angels don't use jump packs.

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    4. The Skyclaw fluff in the current codex sort of teases it still. "...if fighting on foot was good enough for their Primarch, it's good enough for them, too!"

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    5. Brandon, you seem to have some sort of weird notion that EVERY single battle space wolves have ever fought has been on fenris.

      Of course they fucking fly.. how do you expect them to get around otherwise?

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    6. "Hurr durr, Astartes Chapter that doesn't fly!"

      So no fleet or Thunderhawks then? Basically no ability to wage war in any capacity whatsoever?

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    7. Yes, I am aware they maintain a fleet. Interstellar travel and transports are one thing, aerial warfare is another. I know they do fly to get from place to place, but as far as tactics go, they're strictly ground. From what I understood, they'll fly, they just don't like it, and do it begrudgingly, as opposed to teleporting, which they don't do at all.

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    8. Like I said, that's what I UNDERSTOOD. If it's been retconned or was a myth to begin with, I stand corrected. Sheesh...

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    9. Space wolves like flying as much as Ogryns like riding in Chimera's......don't like it but it still happens [atleast in novels for ogs] SW fluff doesn't win games though does it? the models/tactical decisions of the general [YOU] decides what happens in game.

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    10. @Brandon: It doesn't "go against" SW fluff in any way, shape, or form.

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    11. Plus Wolves do teleport when needed. I'll be glad when Codex is released so people stop moaning about the fluff side of us getting a flier. Russ didn't constrain his sons like other Primarchs. If some want to fly, they can fly.

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  13. I don't get why any SM chapter gets different equipment than the others (except GK and maybe DA), they are all just SM no matter how you slice it...

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    1. They all get a chasis, but they convert and change it to suit their tactics and to better fight their most common/difficult opponent.

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    2. In general I believe it dates from the Great Crusade where there was an abundance of options available to each Primarch and Legion so each one chose what they liked most and/or changed whatever to suit their needs. Over time after the Heresy the options dried out and each legion was stuck simply maintaining what they had rather than getting new stuff.

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    3. DA are just green space marines why would they get different equipment by your logic?

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    4. Dark Angels are always discovering old tech within the Rock(where their base of operations is). This is why they have more plasma and terminator armor. They are also the first chapter.

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    5. No we're not. No forbidden tech here, move along.

      *shifty eyes*

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    6. Ultramarines were the first "chapter" thier Primarch did invent the structure, Dark Angels we're the first legion, but by archeo tech on the rock I could surmise that all the first founding chapters that still use thier legions home world or base ( phalanx, the rock) would also "discover" such wonders in thier arsenals

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    7. @Herpguy: You don't get why because you clearly don't read anything about Space Marines.

      They aren't all the same, they don't all get their stuff from the same place, and they don't utilize the same designs or tactics.

      And for in-game purposes, it gives people different factions to choose from.

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    8. Each Chapter is unique in its own way. Its does stem back to the Great Crusade and the Primarchs that made they legins into what they are and henceforth the chapters.

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    9. Dark Angels were the 1st Legion, and thus, often received new weapons/Tech before other Legions. They also produced alot of their own stuff. Same goes for Salamanders. They too produced the majority of their own wargear and other such things....

      "the Salamanders and Dark Angels have long been noted to field Glaives as a matter of course; the XVIIIth Legion’s artifice is more than sufficient to maintain and replicate the arcane Volkite technology, while the provenance and honour of the Ist Legion means that their war matériel and weaponry are ancient indeed."

      That is why Dark Angels are more likely to have different Tech to other Legions/Chapters. Hell, we even used patterns of Weapons that Gulliman didn't recognise.

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  14. I think what space wolves players should really look at is the 16 model transport, if we are lucky and blood claws can take it as dedicated and we could transport the blood claws to the other end of the board and disembark and assault. I think they may have solved the blood claw problem.

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    1. No, the blood claw problem was paying the same points as a GH for a model with a worse statline, worse equipment, a nerf rule unless accompanied by a character in exchange for one more attack on the charge.

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    2. +1

      If Blood Claws were closer to 12 points, and Grey Hunter's closer to 16, then People would have taken Blood Claws more in 5th/6th

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    3. So a "fix" is to trade one unit for the other for no reason than to trade one unit for the other?

      I'm glad the players don't write any of this.

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  15. I think wolves are really going to get flyers but am currently calling bull on this rumor.. besides, why is the 1st one cheaper than the second one?

    I think the 2 variants should be one high transport capacity type with a main gun and a pure gunship type with minimal transport capacity..

    also if it's close to a storm raven, I guess it would be able to carry 1 dread also? :D

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    1. maybe it can maybe it can't carry 1 dread. extra room for more marines would suggest that no it can't. if on the gunship version the sure, as it has less than half the first versions transport cap.

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    2. hmmm haven't thought of it that way.. 16 capacity vs 10 and 1 dread? hmm.. seems okay! and it will be different :))

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  16. i guessed that SW were going to get a Beardhawk :) guess i wasn't wrong

    [raven variant]

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  17. I'd love it if all the people here who write 'bullshit' or 'lies' in response to a rumour that someone has helpfully passed on to Natfka without motivation of profit or reward, offer a public apology to the source in cases where that rumour was true.

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    1. Ya smacked that one out of the park. Sick of these smarmy a-holes that come along from time to time calling bull like they have some kinda power of prophecy. Nobody cares if ur right or wrong. They're all just rumours to be confirmed or disproved!

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    2. And what should the "anonymous source" do if the rumor he/she posted is false? I've yet to see ANY of them apologize for a BS rumor...

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    3. This rumor is true guys. Its on the cover of next week's White Dwarf. Called a Stormfang. More verification coming here shortly.

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    4. I'll probably be refreshing this page the most since then marine codex started to drop until pics get posted!

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    5. Now I can't wait to se what it looks like.

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    7. Pics or it didn't happen natfka, I'm going to the GW open day today at there HQ, so all might revealed?

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    8. Please get photos of the new imperial armour book and nids!!! I'll <3 u forever!!!

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    9. These guys are there:
      battlebunnies.blogspot.com.es/?m=1

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  18. I said it weeks ago that i was told by a reliable source that there was a new SW flier in the warehouse, boxed wrapped and ready to ship soooo anyway, what exactly it is i haven't seen with my own eyes but its been a long time coming, ever since they gave the option to field fliers in chapter approved 2003

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  19. Oh so excited! I'm just hoping it looks beautiful as well.

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  20. I noticed some of the names were incorrect based on similar discussions 100% confirmed. To correct the rumour by giving the proper names of item upgrades:

    Hell Wolf cannon
    Wolf Strike missile
    Both flyers have Wolf Spirit and Ceramite Wolfing.

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    1. The sons of Russ are bad for it but not that bad. Unless GW are going down that road.

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  21. Nah. They will get Stormravens and possibly Stormtalons, thats all. Maybe the missiles will be renamed (like how theres 3 different versions of them for Blood Angels, Grey Kngihts and generic marines) but thats about it.

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    1. Did you not notice Natfka has already said it's true in the comments, something he doesn't do unless he's damn certain it been confirmed. We're just waiting on the picture of the White Dwarf now to see what it looks like.

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    2. I really hope its a giant wolf with wings and a troop compartment on its back.

      And I'm gonna ragequit the game if there's no upgrade on it that doesn't include the word 'wolf'.

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