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Sequel to Betrayal at Calth Contents


A rumor from Bols has the next Betrayal at Calth sequel containing Assault Squad and Heavy Weapon sprues. The game apparently involves the same ruleset, which is good (hopefully with some expanded rules), and includes 2 new heroes. This sounds good, and I wonder at the content simply because that is a lot of sprues if Tacticals are also there. This could be a big expansion with that many miniatures.


With expanded rules, jump packs, and heavy support options I think this could be another good release. I hope that this happens, since these are early rumors at this point.

Please remember that these are rumors, and I have not had any direct information on these yet. Thanks for sharing these Larry.

via anonymous sources from Bols- Posted by Larry Vela
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/30k-rumors-next-horus-heresy-plastics.html

Sequel to Betrayal at Calth contents:
Assault squad sprue featuring packs and close combat weapons.
Legion Heavy Support squad sprue with a variety of heavy weapons.
Mk. IV Tactical sprues continue their appearance.
2 new Heroes are included.
Imperial Fists are involved in some manner.
Uses the same Betrayal at Calth ruleset.
Q1-Q2 2016

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  1. sticking with mk4, huh. does your main picture mean they also think it could be 1k Suns. or is it just art. Also if it is heavy support will that be vulkite??? or just the Horus Heresy missile launcher design and stuff?

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    1. i know you should't be the first to reply to yourself, but same price, do we know anything about the name, and if it is 1K Suns will this be the 30k part of the tzeentch releases ?

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    2. If Imperial Fists are involved, I doubt we'll see thousand sons. Anyway the box will probably let us the freedom to choose our legion as for Betrayal at Calth

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    3. I read somewhere that Phall is a good candidate for the box, so it would be Fists and Iron Warriors

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    4. I would imagine FW will do the same thing they did with Calth and release upgrade kits for each legion at some point

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    5. I imagine it'll be like the first one , paint it as your own legion I think that would mean itll be legions with simpler armor , not that im saying it won't be 1k sons but inorder to be 1k sons you'll still probably need upgrade sprues at least if your as attention to detail as me :P

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    6. @owen, the lLegion upgrade kits were out well before calth and weren't made just for that box

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    7. @nova star - I think Owen meant a set that includes enough heads/shoulders/torsos for the new box, accompanied with the new box; I don't think he means create new upgrades, just a new bundle.

      Also this won't be 1k sons, or anything crazy - more likely it will be a continuation of the invasion of calth story line, sticking with the word bearers and ultramarines. I think GW has more interest in printing generic as possible HH plastics, so that everyone can get involved - the second they move towards more unique aesthetics like thousand sons, night lords, or emperors children, their market starts to shrink.

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    8. @nova I know but they bundled them with the betrayal at calth with the plastic mkiv legs and arms after it came out for each legion. Previously you would've had to buy full squads and then the legion upgrades

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  2. This wreaks of wishlisting. The fist set content plus more? That ain't happening.

    As for ever seeing Volkite weapons in plastic, I would not hold my breath, GW doesn't want them showing up in main 40k beyond limited AdMech relics/hqs.

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    1. It doesn't say the first set content plus more. It says that Mk IV tactical sprues will be in there which is a no-brainer given the rumor mentions it features assault/heavy squads. But it says two *new* heroes are featured and doesn't mention anything about terminators or a dreadnought. In all likelihood it would be a very similar box except with new maps, new heroes, and the assault/devastator squads replace the specials from the last box.

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    2. With all that said: it's still Lary Vela from BoLs and I don't believe anything he says ever. But the rumor, in theory, would make a sensible box.

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    3. @ Threllan

      Good choice. The man doth speaketh out of his bottom.

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    4. You know Star Swift won't read or respond to your reply, right?

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    5. ^ when do you ever reply to anyone? you don't you bloody hypocrite.

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    1. Uh oh.

      Is that a denial lol or a "i know something you don't" lol

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    2. I'd wager it's the Lady's usual "why are you listening to BoLS" laugh. But I could be wrong.

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    3. I'd wager it's the Lady's usual "why are you listening to BoLS" laugh. But I could be wrong.

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    4. BoLS has a long history of completely inaccurate rumours.

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    5. ... which are adequately called BOLShit. :D

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    6. +1 lol Kleverdd and if the lady has spoken than we must "ha ha" with her

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    7. I am now going to laugh exactly like that scene from that Final Fantasy game...

      ...I probably shouldn't have done that out loud in the middle of Star Bucks...

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    8. @DAMO. R I'll be honest I'd to just spend a day hanging out with you i probably would get nothing done but it would be worth it lmao

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    9. Oh, no....the middle of Star Bucks was the perfect place! It was meant to be!

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    10. Which scene in which Final Fantay?

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    11. I'm not sure... It's just that bit with the really wierd awkward laughing scene...

      Also, while I appreciate it, trust me, I'm incredibly boring in person :(

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  4. Sounds interesting.
    Would've liked MKIII for the heavy supports though. Biggest question though is how many and which heavy weapons we get. Got to be enough to make a 5 man squad with the same weapon at least, and hopefully not missiles or heavy bolters.

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    1. Yeah I mean even in the BaC set itself you get 3 MLs and 3 HBs, so I would hope that if it acts as an expansion to the game it would include things like the plasma cannon, lascannon, multimelta, and vulkite if we're lucky. I could see them including an additional ML and HB though on the sprue, so that with the Tac squad included in the box and a BaC proper set, you could field 5 MLs or HBs in a squad. Hopefully that would also mean 5 each of the other weapons, but I'm sure we'll have to hit ebay to expand our arsenals like usual.

      What I'm really hoping for is an update to the cataphractii to allow for the use of 5 power weapons in a squad vs having to go with power fists. Crawling ebay to grab 8 additional sargeant power swords for my 10 man squad is becoming irritating and expensive lol

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    2. Yep. I split BaC with a friend (I took traitor marines) and then bought one more tactical sprue on eBay for cheap. He didn't use his missile launcher so I was able to take all 4 and make my own squad of Havocs for 40k. That box was an amazing way to get marine bodies for cheap.

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    3. Remembering that Betrayal At Calth didn't have any 30k-specific weapons, I think that Heavy support will have a choice of lascannons, multimeltas and heavy bolters. Grav-guns are 40k-specific, in 30k there are graviton guns. Volkites, Rotors and Reaper Autocannons are 30k-specific, so might not be in the box.

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    4. 40K Chaos have Reaper Autocannons tho... Shows how poor and forgotten we are :,(

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    5. @DAMO.R ikr, does that mean chaos marines are outdated? if so do we get a new codex?!!

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    6. No because we don't deserve one :(

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    7. Not until your new models are ready for production

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  5. If this is true, then I'm guessing it will be a similar number of models in the overall box, plus a few extra tiles for the game, and a handful of new cards featuring the rules for the assault and devestator squads and new characters. Probably something like 10 tacticals (same sprue), 10 assault marines, 10 devestators, 2 characters. If its true, I'll for sure pick one up (or at least get the new characters and assault squad on ebay!) to expand my BaC thousand sons legion.

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    1. if it's true then those that claimed there wouldn't be much more for HH in plastic were talking out the hole in there mouth breathing sphincter.

      GW will release whatever they deem neccecary to make BaC a success, releasing one box set and calling it a day isn't a clear sign of a successful product lifetime expectancy....not only that but genuinely not many know what GW (or FW) will release next....we are all largely in the dark....even those that claim to know don't really know when it will be released....

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  6. Faeces...utter utter faeces. This comes from a website that recently had a post titled 'Review of new Mars Pattern Warhound' ... Lol I wouldn't bother going there for rumours ever again.

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    1. you mean the Lady who got a C&D for leaking unreleased info? LOL yeah that "lady". also no more from nightfury (could be same person) because his "wife to be" leaked info and got caught (HA HA HA HA HA- it's not hard to imagine) and then we saw "Atia" appear afterwards HA HA HA. then she got a C&D for her efforts. GOLDEN.

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    2. I always like the conspiracy theories, you made my day ;)

      Btw I still have two blogs where GW can't sue me unlike on twitter :P

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  7. Haha, I was hoping Atia would comment on here to confirm my suspicions and she has!

    Myth Busted.

    Big
    Old
    Load'a
    Sh*t

    Sorry but Larry Vela is a terrible rumour source.

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  8. I was actually just thinking to myself...

    "A blank comment? What techno-heresy did he cause to do that!?" lol

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  9. I'll be surprised if this isn't a mk3 kit, lots of people view this as THE 30k armour and will buy it by the truck load if they did. I'll bet a box on IF vs IW, Battle of Phal

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    1. Well it kinda depends; since the Invasion of Calth takes place during the horus heresy - while its in full swing - it makes sense that MKIV armor would be readily available. Horus gave priority to those legions that were either already conspiring with him, or who he thought he could turn to his cause - and then of course there would be other legions, like the ultramarines, who are just so tight with the emperor and the forgeworlds that they would have it as well.

      MKIII armor is more for the Crusades, pre-heresy, vs. during the start of the heresy or mid-swing.

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    2. Actually nope.

      Mark II would be the GC variant - Mark III is used for breacher/siege specialists and void battles :)

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    3. I am a big fan of the early marks but not the later ones,

      In my humble opinion they got it all arse about face with the look of the armour for the marines the later one look less tech than the earlier ones and certainly alot less aesthetically pleasing.

      smacks of the clone wars vs star wars - go back in time and it messes up with how you look at the future incarnation.

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  10. If there aren't any terminators NO thanks!

    I'll stick to the resin ones.

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    1. if this is true (calth expansion) then what you and others said earlier was inherently wrong: HH getting more in plastic.

      if this is untrue then lolwut? what brought on the change of heart......because folk like me said there would be more and folk like you believed there won't be....either which way happens we are likely to see more plastic HH sometime in the near-comparative far future.

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    2. @mr inferno

      Never said there would not be more HH plastic, just that FW will still carry on with its full range, and not be pulled in favour of plastic.

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