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Scion Platoons: An Elite Choice for Imperial Guard Forces

With information now coming for Scion Platoons, we can see that these are definitely a new option for the Imperial Guard Stormtroopers. They come with a lot of new options that now can make a stormtrooper force quite good, and very viable on the tabletop.


Scions very much match the old statlines of the Stormtroopers, and includes a command squad with a Tempestor Prime with a higher leadership of 9. Here are some interesting rules that are gathered from the leaks we have seen.

A link to the leaked Scion pics
http://millests.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/rules-preview-for-militarium-tempestus.html
http://bailedemascarasnegras.blogspot.com.es/2014/03/reglas-de-taurox-y-tempestus-scion-de.html

Militarum tempestus Platoon 
Elite choice for the Imperial Guard codex, and contains 1-3 Scion squads and may include a single Tempestus Command squad.

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad
Special Rules include Deep Strike, and Move through cover.
Clarion Vox-net: Friendly units in the same platoon within 18" use the Prime's leadership for fear, morale, and pinning.
Voice of Command: Can issue a single order per turn with a command radius of 12"
Can upgrade 4 Scions from the special weapons list.
Can carry a vox-caster and platoon standard, or medi-pack.
Can take a chimera or Taurox Prime as a dedicated transport

Really the command squad is very tight. They can quickly fill the ranks of your units, and give you great access to special weapons. 4 special weapons per squad is always a good thing, and I can see my Kasrkins quickly getting a lot more use on the tabletop. The ability to give orders, and keep other units in line with extended leadership is an added bonus.

Militarum Tempestus Scions
With hotshot lasguns as their primary weapon, and two Scions being able to upgrade to special weapons, these are very much your old standard stormtroopers. They do lose the ability to take shotguns, and I have been hearing some of this as a modelling issue from readers and other bloggers behind the scenes. Where these guys shine, is that their new Taurox Prime is a fast vehicle with great weaponry, and two gun ports to match up with the Scion special weapons count.

All in all, a great job, and I am loving these new updates. Using Scions as an Elite Platoon will definitely make them valuable, with some creative uses on the tabletop.

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  1. Very intresting a stormtrooper platoon. Now to see if they are cheap enough to be viable.

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  3. Are they troop choices in the Militarum Tempestus codex?

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  4. They can deepstrike and are cheaper then a storm trooper.

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    1. Storm Troopers could always deep strike.

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    2. And with the right doctrine they could re-roll the scatter too

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  5. 12 points per storm trooper, down from 16 points. that makes them much more viable IMO. Not sold on the "volley gun" option as of yet, but everything else tell me they will be worth the cost.

    They are basically +2 points each to get AP3 lasguns over veterans. Yea, Veterans get 3 special weapons, but with deepstrike and move through cover, the ability to drop them in the back field and start making a mess of power armour makes them worth the extra cost.

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    1. 5 points over vets. Those are 7 ppm, not 10.

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    2. Still will need 5s to wound T4 though. So unless its a 5 man sm squad the Scions will probably get the guts shoved in.

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    3. Vets would be 10 pts / model with carapace armor. The focus of a ST squad though should be using Spec Wpns to take out something nastier than a bunch of Marines.

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    4. Well nobody gives veterans carapace armor for a reason.

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  6. They're probably just scoring in Codex: Tempestus, similar to other sub-codexes. That way you have to take them as your main force if you want scoring stormtroopers.

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    1. Don't worry, I'm certain there will be a dataslate with some kind of formation that lets you take 'em as scoring anyway.

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    2. The more I see the more I think Tempestus is a just a supplement for Guard.

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    3. It's not. If it were it'd say so right on the cover. It's more like Codex: Inquisition or Codex: Imperial Knights.

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    4. Prob. More like Codex LotD. Unplayable on its own. Nothing can score ect ect.

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    5. I very much doubt they won't be Scoring Units when taken as a Primary Detachment. Think of the Inquisitorial Henchmen from Codex: Inquisition. They're Elites, but when the Inquisition is the Primary Detachment, they're Scoring Units.

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  7. The new plasma vets.

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  8. Quite disappointed that they lost Scout...

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  9. They have never had access to shotguns...

    Great, so they've lost their special ops rule, Hot-shot pistol, close combat weapon. Sergeant lost his Hot-shot lasgun and only got cc + pistol. A shame, I liked swapping his lasgun with a bolter.

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    1. We don't know how specific the rules get. I'm pretty sure all we have right now are the most general rules. I'm sure the sarge will still have a few options as well.

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  10. You what! 12pts!!!! That's a point less than acolytes kitted out the same?!? And acolytes don't get any nifty rules!?? I feel had..... That's it I'm turning heretic! :(

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    1. Rather turn tau.
      Taurox & tau! Would be a great Combo. If only at Name.

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  11. Have you seen ont the page of the rules for the "voice of command for the tempest or prime only) they say :"see the platoon command squad in codex : imperial guard" so astra militarum is only a codex supp ?

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    1. It's not. The cover of Codex: Astra Militarum says nothing about it being a Codex Supplement. This White Dwarf has the current rules in mind so they can be used right away. The actual Codex will probably say differently.

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    2. La Mancha is right these rules are just made to use the new scions until the Astra Militarum book comes out. There would be no point referencing a codex which hasn't been released but the rules allow them to be used before the new book.

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  12. The models will be awesome, but another issue is that WD is releasing rules for them as an elites choice with Imperial Guard, and then a mini-dex? And then an elites choice for Astra Militarum? Its a bit convoluted to me. Its so fucking rediculous to me that GW is pushing this in front of the new Astra Militarum codex. Its like if they decide to do Codex Flash Gitz before a new Ork codex or something. Not to mention they're decent at best. Yay they can issue orders, but FRFSRF doesn't affect hot shot lasguns, and he won't get bring it down, what else is there? We got the same stats pretty much same options, some gimmicky things, and cool it's a platoon now, but of non scoring units.

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    1. It was established some time back that the Rules printed in WD Weekly were not the Rules in full, but a preview of what people were expecting. This is why Ancestral Grudge was left out of a lot of the Dwarf entries (Belegar, and perhaps Gurrickson and the Gyrobomber if memory serves).

      That said, the book should still have some benefit, if only for Warlord Traits, a Force Org. Chart shakeup and maybe an Artifacts list.

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    2. Yes.
      Dex only has WLT and FOC going for it.


      See it this way. Either this dex lets you use scions 1-2 weeks before everyone els.
      Or its not included in IG dex and its just a pure money Grab.

      So either way its a wast. Since WD has all the rules and they have been leaked allready!

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    3. Seb, get out. lol

      People buy a codex for more than just the rules, some (most, probably) of us actually love reading the whole thing rather than just analysing the rules and ignoring the rest because we really. have. to win. Same with the supplements.

      If people want to proxy models in their current IG force to see how Scions work as Elites they can once they get the WD, if they like them they can buy the book based on their own experience, which is more than GW have offered in recent years.

      Scions should be in the IG book. Look at the other releases:

      Iyanden - Eldar codex has all Wraith units
      Farsight - Tau Empire codex still has XV8/104 units
      Iron Hands - Marine codex still has access to Iron Hands
      Damned - blah, you get the pattern

      The only book to buck this that I can think of are Sisters, Inq & both Chaos supplements. Sisters & Inquisition are updates to existing oooold books rather than 6E books proper and the Black Legion/Crimson Slaughter aren't a specialist unit type in the parent codex. Scions should be in the IG book.

      PS - Don't go Seb, you make me laugh. In a good way.

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  13. The Taurox and Prime have two firing points on each side, so four total. Why are acolytes with hotshot las guns and carapace armor 13 pts with BS 3 and no deep strike ? I really hope I can use these guys for Inquisitorial storm troopers instead.

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    1. I can say the same argument for why simple SM get more for the smaller cost than CSM...

      Why inquisition servitors are much cheaper and can get more heavy weapons for cheaper than IG ones.

      Why tigureus has access to all psychic disciplines and ahriman does not. And he is still cheaper.

      The problem with all of these arguments is that you can't compare similar units from different codices. GW don't intend them to be comparable as they are different forces.

      And if you get them as part of your codex then chaos players would start arguing again that they have to have the at least as allies etc.

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    2. That's a good point, Daniil. By keeping them separate, they can be considered an Elites choice for IG, but not be available to CSMs at the same Allies level. Tricksy...

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  14. Wait... It says "Codex: Imperial Guard"... Are we back to the old name now?

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