Subscribe Us

header ads

Tyranids Pushed Back, Dark Elves Oct-Nov, and Codex Supplements Ramped Up for 2014


There is a sad rumor, and this from a good source on this side. That is that Tyranids are delayed until January. I will be trying to see if I can find more information on this today, and I can only hope that somewhere, someone was mistaken.


On the other side of the coin though, 2014 may turn out to be the year for codex supplements. The release schedule being ramped up, with nearly something every month and to include model waves. I definitely am liking the sound of that.

Please remember that these are rumors

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
- NO Mystery-Box
- Dark Elves will be spread over 2 months (October + November) because all but 3 boxes will be remade. It’s going to be the largest release this year and will be followed by some events in the GW Games Stores.
- Tyranids are delayed till January (It was mentioned that they always were to be released in January but i’m not able to proof that)
- Supplements will not be released more than one per month but will see a regularly release every month next year like the codices were this year and will indeed have new model waves.
- the boxes for the Christmas packs will include just valuable units. It’s questionable what this means but I guess they want to sell them this time and therefore go with common units/-combinations

Post a Comment

78 Comments

  1. I'm really wanting to see nids sooner rather than later :/

    ReplyDelete
  2. January is such a long way off!! Plus you have to think that pushes everything 40k back two months in 2014 :(

    It makes sense with dark elves spreading over two months tho, based on the number of plastic kits rumoured, this is almost like the complete revamp dark Eldar and necrons got in 5th Ed 40k

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. "Pushed back" is probably not appropriate; it's likely this was always the original plan.

      Delete
  3. man o man.. I am ever anxious to see the pictures of these new dark elves... the wait is killing me.

    My wives high elves need to be brought low!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Your comment has made me very jealous. Congrats on a wife that will play with you.

      Delete
    2. haha, well... that part is a work in progress. We have yet to actually get a game of WFB going... we have a one year old daughter and I usually don't get from work till late in the evening so time I pretty tight.

      She's played small 500 pt 40k games with a few times but usually when we're gaming we're playing privateer press' hordes (she loves her wolves and druids) or a board game called "Betrayal at house on the hill".

      Either way, it's definitely nice to have a partner that shares the passion.

      I don't even get super jealous anymore when she out paints me :S

      Delete
    3. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    4. Alright dude, don't rub it in. Jeez.

      Delete
    5. Don't worry, Green_Lumux. We're just all jealous of you having a great wife who will game with you. Mine won't even talk to me about my hobby, except to bitch about how much time I spend at it when I could be doing "other things", although it's questionable what those "other things" are...

      Enjoy...

      Delete
    6. I always found it funny when other people tell me to "spend my time doing other things" instead of on the computer oor doing minies.

      I generally ask them how many hours a day/week they watch, and then ask them how many skills they acquire from that. That usually shuts them up.

      Delete
  4. More time to get those Gants and Gaunts painted then ;)

    ReplyDelete
  5. That makes me sad. How can I wait that long to buy more bugs?

    :,(

    ReplyDelete
  6. [meme image]NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!![/meme image]

    ReplyDelete
  7. Tyranid players getting shafted... Totally unheard of!

    ReplyDelete
  8. Tyranid players getting shafted... Totally unheard of!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. haha seriously. But I am unphased, like a beaten red-headed stepchild. I'm sure I did something to deserve this, at least that's what papa GW told me.

      Delete
    2. Yea guys all those armies with new codexes and kits really need supplements now. Because the people who play those recently updated armies don't have enough to spend their money on. So if this is all true I guess we should expect orks in June? Had a feeling this was coming when the Nid rumor wave turned out to be fabricated. On the bright side it's back to playing and painting nids like they won't be updated for a year. The only question left is what to blow the Nid fund on?

      Delete
    3. i am going to try to save my Nidfund for Jan but it's hard to have hobby $$ in paypal and not burn them on something.

      Delete
    4. Think I'm giving my Nid fund to Sony in exchange for a ps4. I bet fallout 4 will be out before either of my armies get an update.

      Delete
    5. GW themselves never announced the new Tyranid codex was coming out in November. Have we all forgotten these are rumours and nothing concrete?

      Delete
    6. Who said gw announced nids in November? I accepted the fact that nids weren't coming out after marines dropped and the only bug related sound was chirping crickets. Doesn't change the fact that I saved a wad for something in November and am now going to spend it elsewhere. The most disturbing part of this hands down is where it leaves orks. At least the Nid list is competitive still, orks on the other hand are as outdated as the telegraph, and IF the release schedules are true which I don't necessarily count on orks will be coming out next summer, that would be the real slap in the face.

      Delete
    7. The Ork book is still great. We waited 10 years for the current one, its only been since 2008 :)

      Delete
    8. @The Kwodd: So you can't just save that fund, or add to it until January? You have to spend it in November?

      That's the problem with people in Western society (with regards to finances). They HAVE to spend everything they have, and then borrow for something they can't afford.

      Delete
    9. Heya Dez,

      What's your Ork list look like? I think I've been playing the wrong. I'm bumping my boyz squads from a mob of 20 to a mob of 30. And buying a 2nd dakkajet.

      I think I also made the mistake of making my boyz slugga boyz instead of shoota boyz. I'm waiting on the new dex before I convert them though.

      I'm a Sad Panda about Tyranids not coming sooner. Really excited for new Orks and Tyranids.

      Delete
    10. McDoogle, who the hell do you think you are? Your very into stereotyping and acting all high and mighty. Id be intrested to know how long you save money for, before you critisize 'Western Culture'

      Delete
    11. Frankly a January release means I should have more saved up so I might actually be able to snag all the new releases. In fact I was somewhat bummed when I heard it might be November since the ol' nerd fund was a bit low. But when you get all juiced for an earlier release I still can't help but be a little disappointed. It's all good, get ready for Nid..uary... hmmm... not nearly as catchy as Nidvember.

      @Cyphus don't sweat McDoogle, the moment you see his handle pop just gear up for run-of-the-mill, self-righteous condescension and you'll learn to simply move on.

      Delete
    12. Normally I keep it to myself, but sometimes you got to vent some steam when things go a bit far. I dont approve of personal assaults or criticism unless thers is a very good basis for it andx you know the person your talking about outside forums.

      It is very true that if you see McDoogle pop up, its time to engage mute mode and just ingnore it....

      Delete
    13. To be fair, McD has a point: if you really want to buy 'Nid stuff when they're released then you wouldn't do and spend that stash, you'd save it or add to it instead. That's the logic of it. As far as stereotyping goes I'm largely staying out of that one as I have no idea what the Middle or Far East generally handle their finances but it's slightly impossible to ignore the fact 'the West' have been plunged into an economic toilet thanks to banks and lenders supplying unsustainable levels of credit. To generalise, if The West as a collective could manage their (our) finances then the situation would be a tad different. I think that McD is correct in his generalisation regardless of how you guys objecting handle your finances (and massive props to you if you somehow have no or hardly any debt at all, you're a more shrewd fellow than I) but I can't say if his observation is limited just to the EU & US.

      Delete
  9. Soooooo... does that mean Guard will be in March for Guarch? Sucks though as I was planning my Christmas around Guard.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The Imperial March may be pushed back because of this news I feel, if it turns out to be true.

      Delete
  10. The Inquisition skirmish dream is dead...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Not really. My dreams didn't die. All of these little side games are totally uninteresting to me. Blood Bowl, Dreadfleet, Inquisition.. it's all just models that you can't use in any other of the main games in any meaningful way, they're more expensive than other boardgames of similar style and function, they're typically limited release, and they take away from the production of other models and releases that I'd much rather have.

      If anything, I take this as good news.

      Delete
    2. J.Mike, I'm right there with you, dude. :(

      Delete
  11. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  12. Not a chance. WFB sales have been lagging, and no one could possibly believe that a Dark Elf release would be big enough to warrant 2 months.

    IF Nids are Jan, they always were, and something else 40k is going to show up for Nov.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'm thinking the same. WHFB already sells so much less than 40k, I highly doubt a single faction (and not even a highly popular one) will be dragged out over 2 months.

      Pushing Nids back would save me money (for this year atleast) though, unless they release something like plastic greater daemons or new csm kits. Chance for that to happen is near zero though -.-

      Delete
    2. I agree, the hype for a release does not last two months, so I would expect Nidvember or if nids are indeed January something else 40k (maybe first model wave???- one can hope)

      Delete
    3. Orks dammit! Orky Klawz is coming to town.

      Delete
    4. Seconded. Either IG or Orks get fast-tracked to November, or there will be a "special" boxset game. Two entire months for a less-than-popular FB faction, even if it's almost a complete relaunch, does not sound believable.

      Delete
    5. To be fair chaps – and I’m not saying this ‘is’ the case, but to be fair – Chaos Warriors got six plastic kits (Hellstriders, Skullcrushers, Warshrine, Forsaken, Chariot, Slaughterbrute) plus a couple of plastic characters over a staggered release (Late 2012 and early 2013). Chaos Warriors were also in the position of having several more convincing looking kits than Dark Elves and thus didn’t actually need that many. Now, I grant that there was a gap of a couple of months between these two waves, but I think that an argument could be made in favour of consecutive waves.
      I’m not entirely convinced by the financial argument. Where I am, WFB is very popular, but I will take on faith that it sells less globally (I haven’t researched it yet). Still, if I had a product line that was selling firmly but not as well as my other product lines, I would invest money into stimulating sales in that line – the line clearly isn’t failing and thus a candidate for removal, so investment might be worthwhile. We’ve already seen this in principle with the Dark Eldar (when I work at GW we sold maybe half a dozen boxes a year, if that) and to a lesser extent the Necrons.
      My final thought is that GW has done a lot of things recently which we didn’t expect, such as one hardbook book per month. There has also been the correction of long-standing mistakes, such as the instore gaming facilities (which from experience intimidated new hobbyists as many of those gamers constantly in the store were not good adverts for the hobby, on top of driving rent rates up). It is clear to me that they are transforming business strategy. Now this will involve some experiments, and it’s just possible that this could be one of those experiments.
      So we all understand each other, I think you chaps are probably correct, simply because it might be a bit dubious to focus on one part of the customer base for two release slots. What I’m suggesting is that it’s not out and out insane, and is perhaps not far from what we might see later on.

      Delete
    6. Come on someone show me those dark elf pics. Someone must have them somewhere? Release the kracken!

      Delete
    7. @Matt Charman: I think I agree with you.
      Besides if month two IS a black box month, releasing one or two kits that month isn't to far fetched.
      The Hobbit see new stuff every now and then all the time.

      Fact of the matter is that Dark Elves needs a lot of update to their core, a lot more than most of the other releases we have seen, so it makes sense to maybe put it out over a few months.

      Heck it's even better if they do it back to back, and not piecemeal over "the course of the edition" as they used to back in the day.
      How long did it take from the Nids and Space Woves codices till the last big "wave" for those guys?

      Delete
  13. bollocks, those pointy eared fools from fantasy shouldn't need TWO MONTHS! I WANT MY LOVELY BUGS KEKAKJFEKJAJKF *sounds of hopelessness*

    ReplyDelete
  14. GW would NEVER go two months with no Warhammer 40k release. Either the Dark Elves are two months and the mystery box is inquisitor, or Dark Elves are one month and Tyranids are still in November.

    Besides, Nidvember is too good a pun for GW to pass up!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I think Delves are 2 months + a mysterybox. November is very often dedicated to the mystery box. Besides the second month would propably not be "dedicated" to the elves, they would just see some releases.

      Delete
  15. "NO Mystery-Box"
    Damn.

    Dark elves for two months? seems very odd. they're not that popular surely? and WFB isn't that popular in teh first place right? at least in comparison to the 40k sales.

    I'll have a big lump of rock salt to chew with this one.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. If they do SM supplements its 3 months of SM dex power. SM=£

      Besides the nid rumors were from Bols forum and the 4chan troll.
      No more than wishfull thinking & guessing!

      Delete
  16. Yeah, if this turns out to be true, it's like GW just took out all of my hopes for Inquisition, threw them in a barrel, doused them in gasoline, and lit them on fire.

    ReplyDelete
  17. I think I can comfortably call this as bollocks, honestly. I am 99% certain Dark Elves will only be a single-month release, as has almost every other book for several years. They aren't going to do the same army two months in a row, especially not with Christmas coming up.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. All these arrogant 40k players....."Awww boo something that isnt 40k gets two months? Surely that other game cant possibly be as good as the game I play and shouldnt have two months should it?" In the Queens English: Sod off.

      Delete
    2. Im not wining, even if it was a 40k release it still shouldnt have two consecutive months. Although this could be a trial to try out in 2014. 1 month army book + 3-5 kits, next month more models, supplement warzone etc. Or the opposite.
      And my Queen would like a word about your understandingv of the Queens English...

      Delete
    3. When was last time anything got 2 months? That is why it sounds like bollox.

      Delete
    4. "Dark Elves will only be a single-month release, as has almost every other book for several years."

      Warriors of Chaos, Chaos Deamons, Space Wolves, Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons... all had a second wave, or a pre-army book first wave... and all came out the past couple of years...
      This argument is moot.

      Delete
    5. I think he means two consecutive months, not two waves over 3+ months

      Delete
  18. Here is why I think Dark Elves are only going to be one month. A) it is fantasy, and its not popular enough, and B) even Space Marines only got 1 month (by far the most popular army in their entire line up)

    ReplyDelete
  19. Lots of iffy rumors these days. I miss the days of Harry, Hastings and Brimstone (RIP).

    It wouldn't surprise me if Nids were slotted for Dec pre-order/January release all along, just like Dark Angels were.

    And if you forget, the exact same internet shenanigans took place last year:

    "Dark Angels are slotted for November."

    "Dark Angels are being pushed back."

    "I had said Dark Angels were going to be available for pre-order in December, and released in January."

    +++Dark Angels go up for pre-order shortly after X-Mas. Released in January.+++

    ReplyDelete
  20. If this is the case my three armies (Guard, Brets, and Wolves) Would all be in a row. My wallet is standing on the ledge of a very tall building, guys. Now if orks are thrown in the middle somewhere I may just be able to talk him out of jumping.

    ReplyDelete
  21. If anything maybe Nov is Hobbit month? And other than supplements were done getting 40k releases for the year. On the bright side it gives Forge World a chance to catch up on releases.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hobbits are December, like they were last year.

      Delete
  22. Still regarding the financial viability of this, yes, multiple waves for DE are possible to avoid production and distribution bottlenecks. However, Dark Elves being the MAIN focus for two consecutive months? Just no. That's what I would call wishlisting.

    The SPESS MUHREENS alone sell more than the ENTIRE Fantasy line. They got the starring role for ONE month. One. Sure, they will get expansions up to your ears and most likely even new kits along the way, but even then they will not be The Event for those particular months, but a supplement (pun intended).

    It may well be that there is no single "starring" release in November, but several smaller, we will see. After all, such was the norm back in the dark days, when we were lucky to get two codexes and two armybooks per year - and even less, if there was a supplement or boxed game.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. They obviously will not be the focus the second month, but might get a box or two released that month.

      Heck even a "later this month" release could happen in october.

      Delete
  23. my gut instinct is to say this doesn't make sense, as GW's followed a fairly regular release schedule for the past year. that said, it's generally agreed GW worked on most of the codexes released lately together, I find myself wondering if, if this rumor is true, if GW has gotten past "phase one" of their new codexes and thus have finished with the codexes they basicly designed together.

    In short I wonder if on the 40k front GW has, breifly, run out of steam

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I don't think they've run out of steam. I think Tyranids and Orks in particular may require slightly larger releases than the other books ported to 6th. They may get the Dark Elves treatment where a bunch of old kits are updated, on top of the requisite new stuff, and occupy 2 months worth of releases.

      Delete
    2. I really do not see the benefit of two consecutive months of the same army. Why would GW focus on one army over two months? It does not make commercial sense - particularly at this time of the year.

      Delete
    3. As I keep saying: The second month will not be a focused month, but might see a kit or two. If you look at the number of kits that is probably the case

      Delete
  24. Dark Elves over two months is nonsense. Sorry, why would they do that?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Because current rumors see them receiving 7 plastic kits and numerous clamshells. You want to show me where that would benefit sales? Dark Elves/prospective Dark Elves customers can't afford that many new kits, and GW would likely be unable to keep up with production on that many kits hitting the shelves all at once.

      Spreading it out over two months, if true, would help both GW and the customer.

      We all have to take into consideration that these rumors were started by the same people who swore Tyranids were in November.

      Delete
    2. The size of the DE release is comparable to the Space Marine release. Core + Sternguard + Vanguard + Centurions + Hunter + Reclusiam Command Squad + Captain + Librarian.

      Also, as to affordability since when was this hobby affordable, and splitting the releases makes this no more affordable. Doesn't stop us though and with Christmas coming up it's the perfect time for a big release.

      Delete