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More Necron Information Flowing


Here is another set regarding Necron rules and changes in the new codex. These come off of Warseer, where the source showed a brief tiny pic of part of the codex (to prove his information). The only things here is that it was all translated, but should give some good insight to even more Necron insights.


Please remember that these are still rumors until we get an official release.

via antaonix on Warseer
I got some news from my source. I translate it to english. "reanimation protocol now activates like Fantasy's ward save. if you failed a Armor save or cannot make armor save, you immediately make a reanimation protocol roll. It still 5+."
"Also, resurrection orb is now one use only. If you use it, you can reroll current phase's protocol." "Doom scythe's Death ray changed to S10 ap1 Small template Weapon."

Hi guys, New information for the necron here. Again, I just translated it to english. I'm not native speaker so please understand poor translation

1. Reanimation protocol changed like Fantasy's ward save. Can be used at Instant Death.
2. Resurrection orb now gives reroll of current phase's protocol. One use only.
3. Lychguard and Praetorian guard's point value almost halved.
4. Invul save of lychguard now same as storm shield. But no reflection.
5. Praetorian's magic stick's range increased to 12"
6. Triarch stalker now have ability which increasing nearby unit's BS.
7. At start of Each turn, Nemesor Zandrek pick one of the Warlord trait of Codex or rulebook and use it until next turn.
8. He still applies nearby enemy unit's special rule to himself.
9. All the fliers nerfed. Point increase and Weapon's power decrease.
10. Cryptek is now HQ slot.
11. Mss got serious nerf.

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  2. 1. Reanimation orb, one use per game for that phase...ouch.
    2.The ability to make a save against every unsaved wound is nice however.
    3.I almost had a heart attack at the bit about lychguard and praetorians.
    4. Will the Triarch stalker still grant twinlinked for targets it hits?
    5. Nemesor...hit/miss could be good...
    6. If they nerfed both the doom scythes weapon and gave it a further point sink I don't think it will be played much anymore, and what did they nerf on the night scythe besides increase in points?
    7. We all saw MSS nerf coming but just how bad is it?

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    1. 6. means the twin-linked tesla destructor that is on both night and doom scythes is also worse.

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    2. 1. If its turned into a fairly cheap item (5 pts?), might still be worth it.

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    3. Ya I think that is the trick about those one time use items they need to be cheap. A re-roll of a 5+ is not all that great of odds. Plus if you need to use it then you are in a lot of trouble anyways.

      I could see it being used on a Overlord in an assault unit so they can get to that I2 in the first round of combat against something tough.

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    4. 1: IIRC we also heard that RP couldn't be improved beyond 4+. If it's not the Orb improving it, the question is, what does?

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    5. Majere613: Royal court formation does IIRC

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    6. I hear Tesla weapons in general got a nerf in that they don't work on Snap Shots anymore, which I imagine would be the only nerf you could really apply to Tesla Destructors.

      And I'm with Sabor, I wanna know how Mindshackles work now. We all know they were gonna get the nerf bat in a big way, but I'm hoping they still work at least sort of like they do now.

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  3. I expected one or the other for flyers, not both. That combined with the change to the deathray makes doomscythes seem pretty useless now.

    I am a big fan of the changes to the lychguard (as I own 25 of them i never use) and zandrekh.

    Not a huge fan of the res orb changes, but most people run min squads of warriors with no orb anyways, though with changes to night scythes that might not happen anymore. Shame about that.

    That triarch stalker ability sounds neat. Not sure if it sounds better than the twin linking though, which still kept it in the marginally useful bracket.

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    1. Doom Scythes can still have a use. If centered on most vehicles, it will likely land a hit, even with Scatter. It does suck more against infantry though, especially smaller blobs.

      I don't run the Orb much myself these days, but this would just solidify that fact in most cases. They would have to drasticly reduce the price of the orb for me to take that again.

      I'm still biding my time on the Weapon Nerfs for the Doom/Night Scythe. Perhaps it could be in relation to Tesla not being able to get hits from Snap Firing?

      MSS...I honestly think its a knee jerk reaction...especially considering how nerfed it is already in 7th edition (assuming you and your opponent know how Challenges work now). Still screws over single-model units though.

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    2. For the time being there will still be the IA12 Sentry Pylons with the old death ray rules, at least until FW update their errata/faq

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    3. I fully expect MSS to be more 'accurate' now, in that the target will be chosen by the Necron player. I imagine the effect will be a lot weaker, though, such as imposing penalties to WS,A, and I, for example.

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  4. ''11. Mss got serious nerf.'' i love it.

    now theres nothing that i scare with my MCS against necron army.

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  5. Well we know the tesla nerf that it does not work with snap fire so that hurts the flyers and the annihilation barge big time. We see above the nerf to the death ray. For the people that use Doom Scythes we already knew they were not all that great between the cost of the flyer and if you are lucky you can use the death ray three times in a game. Necron flyers were great back at the end of 5th and the early part of 6th now they good but I would not consider them great at this point.

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  6. The Flyer issue was spamability, not the flyer.

    If you take 1-2 flyers or Spam 9 is a diffrence.
    This was a stupid way to solve the issue.
    Would have been better to change / restrict wich units can take it.
    Are they always going to utter ruin units just becaus a few dbags spamed it?

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    1. You are totally right but how often do you run into 9 night scythes now days? I saw that somewhat often about two years ago. I think Tau did a great job of removing that list as a some what common thing.

      But hey it is GW and I'm sure it was in a note book or on a white board from the being of 6th to nerf necron flyers.

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    2. generally people are less prone to spam dedicated transports that are expensive, when's the last time you've seen a space Marine player spamming 9 Land raiders?

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    3. I got 4 Land Raiders into a 1500 Inquisition force once. The list was meant to be about the Daemonhosts inside.. it ended up being more about the Land Raiders.

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    4. I much rather take on 9 night scythes vs 5+ wave serpents. Or in 5th razorback spam.

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  7. We still havent heard anything about quantum shielding yet either, if we lose those and have a bunch of av 11 open topped vehicles running around it could be a real issue.

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    1. Nah, I run dark eldar and very rarely have the armour 10 vehicles destroyed by shooting.
      They get punched out the air a lot but by then they have achieved their objective

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    2. its either 1st shot xplode or survive whole game with jinking :3

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  8. I don't see people asking but I am also interested in any changes to deathmarks. Mainly, if it still applies that any joined character also gets the to wound bonus. Oh and the night scythe dedicated transport option, I always found that out of character for that unit (I sort of picture them as infiltrators)

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  9. Cheaper Lychguard will be nice- have to dig out the old Pariahs again, and this will made Trazyn a but more useful.

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  10. "8. He still applies nearby enemy unit's special rule to himself"

    This isn't a current rule of his - can the OP clarify? Currently he can pick any enemy unit on the board that he can see and strips them of acute senses, counter-attack, furious charge, hit and run, night vision, stealth and tank hunter. Completely separate of that he can give ONE of those abilities to another friendly unit, but there is no requirement that it is something you took from another unit.

    If he lost the ability to give stuff in exchange for getting a warlord trait I'll be a bit disappointed. There's some interesting things you could do with warlord traits but not being able to give scarabs furious charge makes me sad :/

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  11. Nemesor Zandrakh is great if this is how it works!

    Blob of nekron warriors with Zealot! Increase reserve rolls if you need to! Everyone within 12" is relentless! AWESOME!

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  12. Anni barges? Qauntum shields? How do night scythes work now? MSS? Scarabs? Wraiths? Spiders? How many pts are all of the above?

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    1. Why would they tell you that now when they can drip feed it to you along with mostly regurgitated stuff just for click bait?

      NOTE: I am NOT making a dig at Natfka as I appreciate what he does, it's the people who know the info and are deliberately not sharing it who annoy me.

      In fact there is probably someone out there right now looking at pictures of the new Harlequins and thinking "hmmm... I have a camera right here... Naaaaah! Maybe next week!"

      THATS what annoys me!

      If I had the info I would share it with you all but unfortunately in not that lucky!

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    2. It wouldn't matter if he used his camera anyway, since everyone who takes pictures of leaks seems to follow the Bigfoot school of picture taking: make sure it's as far away and blurry as possible.

      But I'm with you on the info leaks. I mean, if someone has the codex already and has looked through it for the changes, I honestly think they'd get more views on a single page containing all the information than all this drip-fed silliness.

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    3. Ok, I am going to explain it.

      Information that gets shared is not about what you know, its about how many other people know. Meaning that often someone can lose their job or lively hood if only a few people know.

      Second, often people share information they have heard or seen when they know their information is safe. Its why a lot of people share info with people on this site. I keep them anonymous, and they know that will be the case despite community pressure otherwise. I will hold info until I get an OK to release it from a source.

      I am guilty in the past of holding some info because it was too sensitive to publish. For example when a certain GW writer was writing on the side while working for GW, I had discovered his pen name. It was not worth the problems I was being told it would cause. The same goes for early insight in New Line Cinema's products.

      So often someone with early info will answer questions if I ask. that is often while somethings get broken up. Info is normally part of a conversation, or a series of emails or skype chats. I also dont like to publish a too many topics at once. So if a source contacts me with info on 2-3 different things.... like Endtimes rumors mixed with 40k, mixed with something different, I will separate them.

      Sometimes sources just can't leak pics, there is a lot of legality to doing so as well. Tom in legal has my personal email if there is a problem. While I have an attorney available, I dont push those limits, as I know where I stand. Other locations like forums for example do so at their own risk. I dont like to be shut down, and enjoy writing articles.

      For me, this is a hobby. Despite popular forum talk (real idiocy), this is one of my hobby's and not a business. Google ads often pay for me to pick up books etc, but not much else beyond that. A lot of what I do promoting games that I love, I do for free, because I have met the people involved, they are good people, and I want to see people succeed.

      For example, the Christmas giveaways I paid for personally. these were not things just given to me to have a contest with. I just wanted to give something to the readers for the holidays.

      News and rumors, both in the gaming industry and real life, are my hobby, not a business. Finally no rumor or article is worth someone losing a job, or getting in trouble for.

      I dont mean this as a rant, i just got carried away, so please dont take it that way. Information comes as it does, and in the end we will get it all. I understand that we are all too excited to wait. Me too.

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    4. whoa, that was a lot longer than I thought. sorry. Just wanted to share how things work from behind the scenes and from my own perspective.

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    5. Thank you. Appreciate the transparency.

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    6. Thanks Natfka, it's fascinating to see how these things work and your transparency is really admirable.

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    7. Too bad we don't have a like-button, that was really interesting and I think it should even deserve its own blog post :)

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    8. Thanks Natfka - interesting to know :)

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    9. Thanks Natfka - interesting to know :)

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  13. I dunno about this. I saw this exact list on TG late night on the 23rd, with a straight refusal to be more specific about any details.

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  14. Any change to invasion beams on the Night Scythe?

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  15. Man, I would sell a kidney for some more Harlequin info =P

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    1. Seriously. I've already bought twelve. Probably getting some jetbikes and the solitaire as soon as they drop. And that's just based off of what I've heard so far

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    2. Seriously. I've already bought twelve. Probably getting some jetbikes and the solitaire as soon as they drop. And that's just based off of what I've heard so far

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    3. You know that was all a ruse right?

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    4. What are you going to do with 12 kidneys? Make a pie? :D

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