"Revised 6th" is the New Term: More Information on the New Rulebook Release


There are a lot of small bits coming out on the new 6.5 or Revised Edition for 6th rulebook. I have collated a few of them here, with the help of Zion from Tabletop Wargaming.


Please remember that these are still rumors, and the one talking about percentages and prescience needs extra salt.

It very much looks like the first one fits in well with what we have been hearing, and that the Eldar vs IG will be apart of this release. This revised edition release makes a lot more sense, and one that I think most of us can live with much better than a completely new edition. Here is to hoping that its a great release!

You can also check out the earlier bits about 7th edition (Revised 6th) here.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/04/7th-edition-information-there-is-no.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/04/7th-edition-release-date.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/04/7th-edition-release-astra-militarum-vs.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/04/confirmations-of-7th-edition.html

via krazynadechukr on Dakka
Just wanted to throw in something my Memphis GW source clued me in on. 

Apparently (as we all know) there is a "new" rulebook coming out, and it is a corrected/updated version of 6th (not being referred to as either 6.5 or 7th, but unofficially as "Revised 6th" at hq in Memphis), with escalation and strong added in the book, amongst other books/supps, d weapons, and some other stuff. 673 pages, $99.99. New cover. There will be new templates and starter box, plus other items. For GW, they want this to be the same big fanfare of a new (40k reawakening) release, new rules, for newcomers, but keep current players (happy?). 

For those who have 6th, and the other books, there's going to be a faq pdf so you can use current books still, apparently. This will be good for another 3 to 4 years. 


via Lords of War Gaming on Facebook
NEW 7th Edition rumors:
7e 40K Rulebook comes in a slipcase with 3 books – rules, miniatures showcase, background


via Horncastle on Bols Lounge
I was speaking with the owner of my FLGS today and he confirmed that his GW rep said that DV and the BRB have been discontinued; the rep went on to say that something is coming but wouldn't tell the owner what.

via Bigred on Bols Lounge
We have just been told that WFB style Army Percentage limitations are coming to 40k 7th. More as we get it.

via BoLS comments section
My sister in law works in the printing department and has seen parts of the new rule book. She has limited gameplay experience but does know the rules from watching countless games. One thing she did notice is that "Prescience" is no longer the Primaris Power in Divination. It has move to number five and now cost two warp charges to cast.

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  1. Erm, no thank you to Divination nerf!

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    1. There is going to be so many shed tears over this. I am going to enjoy them.

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    2. I like the fact that Eldar got to sit pretty with their access to divination with only minor complaints but as soon as the IG get access to it? Oooh no, can't have that, gotta nerf that powerset!

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    3. My farseers' powers are looking a lot better :)

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    4. Whats a psyker? I play tau derp :3

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    5. Agreed SaintRhon - says every beckon player ever lol

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    6. Good thing Eldar still have Guide. ;)

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    7. Agree with Max. Such a crutch for power-gamers.

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    8. @lonestarr777: Yes because GW didn't plan this change until AFTER AM came out? :P

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  2. wow!! if they make lists conform to percentage limits/ requirements like Fantasy it is going to change 40k sooooooooo much

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    1. It'll make Farsight Enclaves Tau that much more powerful, I'll say that much.

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    2. How so?

      My thinking is that there will be less riptide spam. More battle suits isn't too bad. Krak missiles gib them.

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    3. The problem is many armies do not have strong troops while some use their troops to do all the heavy lifting.

      White scars and Eldar would be sitting pretty while CSM and Daemons are left with next to no viable builds.

      Sure it would get rid of riptide spam but strong troops is just not an option in many codexes.

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    4. @Herpguy Sisters would be out in the cold too.

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    5. *******Please remember that these are still rumors, and the one talking about percentages and prescience needs extra salt.*******

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    6. I'm sorry Herpguy but Daemons would actually be ballanced rather than spamming 6 Monstrous creatures and essentially breaking the game by flying them around every turn. Considering they don't have to worry about Riptide spam any longer it's not much of a hit. The real question is, how does it effect Astra Militarum Heavies and Tank Commanders.

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    7. How would Sisters be out in the cold? Percentages helps them more than almost anyone but Orks. Actually able to take 4 squads of Dominion? Yes, please.

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    8. The percentages thing is total wishful thinking. How can I make such a claim...Skyblight Formation, Some helbrute formations and what not are totally skewed one one or the other so massively that, if the % rumor where true, you wouldn't be able to play them. I think Prescience is totally fair as a two power roll for it option.

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    9. Formations have more leeway.

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    10. If 25% minimum for troops will be the rule then that's 500 points in Troops. For CSM that could be "hard" to achieve, but for the most part that is what most people put into troops as is.

      As for Formations: I bet they get their own little rule in the new book. Maybe something like 1 formation per X points in the army. I mean some formations already sit on the outside of the FOC as it is.

      Lastly:
      "It'll make Farsight Enclaves Tau that much more powerful, I'll say that much." Maybe so, but the Farsight+retinue death star will be hit hard, as it is very often more than let's say 25% of an army.

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  3. I'd rather have 3 books than a single 673 pages one...@_@

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    1. +1
      I like the idea of separating the rules and the fluffy, but keeping it as a single set. I makes the rule book much less unwieldy, while still keeping everything there.

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  4. Yay! More ways to keep the Dark Angels down!

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    1. Just ally in IG then add knights, then cut DAs to add more Knights & you got youreself a strong knightSpamNoAngel list. Best DA can do atm ;)

      Half the rumors are troll. Better relax and wait for moneygrab incomeing.
      I will revert to 5th i think

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  5. As long as the errata is free, I have no issue. Charging for errata is, and will always be, horse crap. Kinda irksome that the price went up, but the three books would be cool.

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    1. Yo dud
      We figured the rules of youre stuff is to weak. We know cause we just wrote them last month. But we figured we will give you the limited time offer to Pay some extra bucks for a dataslate that will fix what we did wrong the First time grabbing youre money. Hope you happy now and Start buying the models we made.

      ;;)

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    2. It is not an errata it is a revised ruleset, that is different,

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    3. The rumors above state a free faq/errata. Did you read it?

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    4. Reedin'? Wuts 'at?
      *facepalming* so much reading the comments lately....

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    5. It will most likely be free. That said, it's quite a lot of entitlement to think you have the right to get free updates. They could have been dicks and just made it "7th edition" and charged you those $99.
      Even a $10-20 addon book would have been fair, but nooo you have to have everything for free.

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  6. That divination rumor is as salty as they come.

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    1. Actually it falls in line with current goings on. Guard getting access to awesome shooty rerolls was a bit strong and the fact that all the psychic power cards have been trashed. I don't think I'm the only one who finds this to be quite probable.

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    2. Yeah, not the most unlikely thing. Hopefully they did something with the other disciplines as well. Can't stress enough how badly I'd love to use Telekinesis and Pyromancy, yet don't because they suck bawls.

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  7. Let me get this straight, the core rulebook is $99? What a giant f-you to all the players who have to rebuy this book to compensate for the slight tweaks they are making...

    ...Not to mention how much that will drive away new players with a huge price point. GW is going too far.

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    1. Or you could read to the end of the paragraph that says that rule tweaks will be available as errata for the existing rule book.

      Rough price point for new players, but hopefully that'll be addressed with the starter set.

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    2. That's not the point. The point is that GW claims to be a model company, not a game company, yet they keep coming out with new books that are essential, then invalidate them 6 months later. It's bait and switch.

      And you honestly believe GW will fix something with an FAQ? You're joking...

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    3. I didn't say a FAQ, I said Errata, ie, will be an amendment to the existing book and free to download. Please explain how it's a bait and switch, especially for a book that came out two years ago.

      I get that it's easy to be cynical about GW in this day and age, but I feel like you're kind of reaching on this one.

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    4. Still a $100 price tag for the rule book is just ridiculous and plain absurd.

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    5. It only matter to the people that still "buy" Books.
      Fair enough, if they want the real deal and want to support this trend. GW is only takeing from the rich players that can afford it. Just like f...in Robin hood!
      Every One els is waiting for ripp!

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    6. I...I just can't justify $100 for the core rulebook anymore...then the minidexes, and data slates, and weekly... I feel like I'm eating through a year's worth of hobby budget without even buying a model now. Yes, I understand many of these could be considered "optional" but my goodness... a few months of just keeping up with rules and reading and you're out a few hundred bucks.

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    7. I'm not sure if people read the rumors or not but...

      It's actually a discount if SA and Escalation come with the updated rulebook. For those of us without either of those, it's a pretty good deal.

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    8. not really in Australia we pay $80 [regular ]<-> $150 [special edtion] why should $100 be absurd?

      @ Seb and all those not getting it: the game 40k is a luxury item. generally those with money can afford certain luxuries, those that cannot feed the have <-> have not divide. it's not fair but what is?

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    9. One of those rumours suggests that the book will be broken into 3 separate books, which would make sense for $100. They are RIGHT NOW selling a book called THE RULES which is a cut down rule book with out the fluff. I expect that that will still be available. For a reduced cost.

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    10. @Chris, you may have said Errata but the rumor says FAQ.

      Stronghold came out just 6 months ago. As for if they will Errata Stronghold, and the BRB, and the Psychic cards, AND Escalation we will see but GW doesn't have a good track record with that.

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    11. Semantics, Harley. The rumor DOES still state that the FAQ will allow people who already own the book to keep using it.

      "For those who have 6th, and the other books, there's going to be a faq pdf so you can use current books still, apparently. This will be good for another 3 to 4 years. "

      This lends itself to showing that it is not a money grab and they intend to make the additions available to people who already own the current BRB. If the additions are being put into a PDF as well, that likely means a free download.

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    12. But what about the digital version of "The Rules"? Will that get updated with the information in the "faq pdf"? That would go a long way towards easing that burden...

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    13. I cant wait to meet the idiot who pays 100 for the ibook

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    14. The rumour that mentioned that price point clearly stated that there is a set of updates available as a pdf to let player who bought the last book use that. Christ, read the article before you go down to the comments to complain

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    15. I'd be fairly disappointed to see a free release of SA and Esc. after purchasing both at their release time. Those whining about needing to pay extra are dumb, it's for everyone who already bought these but you incessent hold outs that the community is being screwed.

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    16. Good lord, someone call the drama police.

      GW will most likely not bin both Escalation and Stronghold this soon after their release; it's not in their track record do do that with core rules.

      "We've rolled a bunch of new stuff into the new rulebook, so those of you with the Esc & Assault books can use the usual FAQ service and those of you without have the choice of getting one new BRB or the two others."

      Notice how Escalation and Stronghold Assault HAVE NOT BEEN PULLED so they're hardly going to be obselete.

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    17. @TheWarRoom The combination price is only a "deal" if you were going to buy all three books in the first place.

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  8. Divination change sounds legit. GWs solution to any game mechanic prob is to simply make it a random roll rather than admit that its a faulty mechanic that should be reworked.

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    1. People were actually playing psykers.
      Now we can save the money. Will GW ever figure out how to make legit casters?
      Such as paying points for powers and more points for better ones? So you can actually plan youre tactics!

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    2. Hard to tell if you are trolling or not...

      Divination is overpowered and paying for powers was 5th edition.

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    3. Read Seb's posts for long and you'll know the answer.

      Frankly, Divination needs a nerf bad. And this from a guy who had been chomping at the bit to get it for his Guard.

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    4. Ah, but Jesse, that is not the answer. Seb is not a troll. He actually means what he says. Which is waaaaay worse.

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    5. Haha, you are correct, sir!

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    6. Haha of course, as soon as Crimson Slaughter get a single Divination Sorc... SURE IS ROUGH BEING A CHAOS PLAYER AMIRITE GUYS?

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    7. Honestly, to give GW the benefit of the doubt here, I think it might be less of a "screw you IG/Chaos" change, and more "our intention was for people to be using all the various powers, not taking a ML1 prescience bot and not even bothering to roll."

      I wish you could just buy powers, I'd cheerfully plunk down a good chunk of points for guaranteed access to Hallucinations or Invisibility.

      It's another instance of being sort of out of touch with competitive play, since the real reason everyone loves prescience is that you can plan around having access to it. But still, my guess is that it's about nerfing the obvious "gimmie" option.

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    8. Doesn't matter to me, since Be'Lakor knows all the Divination powers, and can fairly easily generate more warp charges thru enemy units failing morale and fear tests, so he should have the warp charges he needs if Prescience goes to 2.

      Otherwise, yes, it changes my plans to run a L3 Crimson Slaughter Sorcerer with a unit of Chosen with 2 or 3 melta guns and 3 or 2 plasma guns, but if it and other "tweaks" close some nasty loopholes (looking at you, re-rollable 2++ saves!), then I'm all for it.

      But what I really, really want is to be able to assault out of my transport if it hasn't moved or got wrecked in my opponent's turn. I'd take a disordered charge tax to just be able to assault without my guys having to stand around for a turn with their thumbs up their noses after they vacated their ride...

      Consolidating into another CC would be the cherry on top, but to keep it from being 2nd Ed ridiculous you don't start fighting until the assault phase of the next player turn (and you can get Overwatched as you're consolidating into a new combat, that would be fine and realistic). Even if you could only make a disordered charge in either case would be fine, just let our fighty units be effective again, please!!!

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    9. Yea, Be'lakor is TELEPATHY master not Divination.

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    10. Divination garanteed Power was/is the only reason to field psykers in a lot of Books.
      If Its a 1 in 6 Chance its hardly worth the psyker.

      If you think it needs to be nerfed you arent useing it.
      You might as well ask GW to remove psykers from the game.

      The way to fix something should be to make it weaker & not useless.

      Besides whats so great about rerolls you Pay for when so much stuff in the game gets Free rerolls or ignore cover or other bs.





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  9. Holy Geneseed, I hope krazynadechukr on Dakka is the correct one.

    (And, yes, the divination chart needs serious correcting, especially divination.)

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    1. I am totally and completely down with this. It is a good way to control Death Stars and makes the inclusion of Super Heavies a workable thing. Let's assume that you can only have 25% of your list as Lords of War. You will need a 2100 point list for a Bane Blade and a 3600 point list for the dreaded Reinvent Titan.

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    2. Agree, I'd be happy with percentages

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    3. uhm no.
      So I have to choose to take Centurions devastators or a Land Raider in a 1600 points game.
      My Terminators can't have a dedicated transport Land Raider in a 1600 points game.
      I can't take Sammael and a 5 man Ravenwing command squad in a 1600 points game.

      Well, I still don't see how it takes care of the 2 wave serpents + Wraith knight at 1000 points game though.

      Poor IG, can only take 2 Leman Russes in a 1500 points game, or make it 4 if you waste your HQ slots on another 2. there goes the armored company, just when they introduced the HQ's to do that.

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    4. Percentages are part of why I don't play fantasy. Screw that system and everyone wanting to force it on me for 40k...

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    5. Which means Eldar can't have any LoW at 2000 points? I'm pretty sure they will have updated LoW options in the new book, tho.

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    6. Like I said above, certain armies are completely screwed with percentages. I'd like to see viable CSM and Daemon builds with a hefty point cost of troops.

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    7. I've never had any trouble conforming the 'army I want' to the 'army I can have' via percentages in fantasy, including a heavy allocation to the heros/lords (HQ) slot, special/rare (Elite/Heavy), and minimal troops. Its not the sky is falling, it works and tends to make sensible forces at the end.

      Up to 25 (30?) percent HQ means that at a 1500pt game, you can have up to 375 (450) pts of hq. Barring some crazy builds, 375 is more than enough in HQ at 1500pts. So you dont get your named character at what is really a reinforced platoon sized element. Guess what? They probably wouldnt be there anyway.

      For fantasy, you are typically 'up to' 50% on your elite/heavy equivalent slots (25% again for rare), which at 1500 means, again, 750pts each. That is still enough to get all your little toys in, including the termies with LR transport.

      The sky is not falling, the army lists wont change unless they were horribly min/maxed, chill out.

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    8. Percentages would really nerf all the stupid stuff that people have been complaining about, like ScreamerStar, 4 Riptides and Flying Circus of whatever flavor you want. And, it would go a long way towards preventing LoW options from being ridiculous at even 2,000 point games.

      The thing that I hope they do is have it so that the points total of all units that fulfill a certain battlefield role all add up into whatever the % limit is, ~regardless~ of whether those units came from your Primary Detachment, Allied Detachment or Dataslate, etc. so the 2 units of 3 Broadsides in the Tau Firebase Cadre, their points would go into the "Heavy Support Pool", which would limit how much more in HS you could take from your Primary and Allied Detachments. That would go a long way towards re-introducing "restrictions" that people have felt have been negated by the Dataslates and such, and re-introduce some structure and restrictions in how you build your lists again, which is something a lot of people have been bitching about; the sense that the FOC doesn't mean anything anymore since you can take lots of fun stuff outside of the FOC with mini-dexes and Dataslates...

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    9. Considering that some of the named characters are needed to actually play the damn game(I am looking at you Dark Angels), then percentages can be rather shitty.

      Another thing is that Fantasy has been built around percentages while 40k hasn't been, which means a lot of books might become nigh unplayable if percentages are brought into the mix.

      Of course, we can't really say how this will affect 40k until we see this is actually being implemented and what the percentages will be. Up until that point we are to just talking about what-ifs.

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    10. A percentage based system for 40k would really screw with the new Imperial Knight army... Too salty for my tastes.

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    11. It wouldn't affect Imperial Knights at all, they ONLY have Troops choices so will be able to hit the Minimum, the others would be maximums with no requirement.

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    12. All these problems are solved by simple saying <25% (but may be exceeded by a single unit and it's dedicated transport). Bam, done.

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  11. Hot damn, that divination prescience change sounds like a quite a nerf. But what will take its place, I would say is more important... A new power I hope. Looking forward to many changes.
    The reawakening 40k idea is worrying. Goes to show that there is some truth to the doom + gloom crowd.

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    1. perhaps that "use full BS for overwatch" power ?

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    2. I think the one that lets the psyker reroll armor saves would be a good primaris power

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    3. I wonder what the primaris would be if this were true. Probably a new shooting style power like the rest of them.

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    4. @Shadowcl4w

      As a Tzeentch daemon main, This really cracks me up. Yes, bring it on.

      But really, maybe psycher powers will be changed overall to allow overwatch.

      @Thors Hammer
      you mean precognition (you get to reroll to hit, to wound, saves)
      or Misfortune? (enemies reroll succesful saving throws)

      because Precog as a primaris would superbuff Lord of Changes

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    5. Roger I was thinking the exact same thing lol. I would never be allowed to play daemons again if that was the case.


      I think divination as a whole is pretty broken and it needs to be brought in line with the other tables. If they just made most of the divination powers Warp Charge 2 it would fix most problems. Look at the Telepathy table, that's a very balanced example.

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    6. Yes i meant precognition. Is lord of change the only concern with that because most psykers are not powerhouses in close combat

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    7. I think the runner up would be a crimson slaughter nurgle bike sorcerer ML2/3, who still isnt in the same ballpark as a lord of change, especially since the LoC can dedicate a mastery level to shooting, because precognition would be guaranteed.

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  12. Force Oganisation Percentages?
    Three books?

    Perhaps they should call it Warhammer 40K - Second Edition...

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    1. oh i hope that they return to M[ovement] as opposed to everything moving standard 6

      joking of course...the % system worked fine for 2nd, and if makes it into revised edtion then i'd welcome it.

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    2. In all seriousness though, Movement values would improve the game a lot

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  13. Should percentages really make it for this new edition (or any edition for that matter), I will have been part of the hobby for the longest time. In my opinion troops are the most boring and uninspired choices of most codices and being forced to use more of them almost aggravates me.

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    1. It made sense when Alessio Cavatorre was trying to evolve 40k into a truly competitive game, but every codex author after that just went around it with the "oh this can be troops too" rubbish.

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  14. Percentages run counter to the whole "Let players take what they want" mentality.

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    1. But way less than enforced minimum/maximum elections

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    2. How is it different in your regard than the current FoC?

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    3. it enables a min-max example you'd require atleast 50% of your army as being troops selections as opposed to 10 guardians a farseer and whatever you wanted, would be 1500 game- 750pts must be spent on troops unit selections [as opposed to less than 10% which most run currently....as i have seen on Batreps]

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    4. it has a reason it is like this, most troops units are boring and one dimensional. Is this a new of GW making money, I just imagine all the Guard players who need to buy hundreds of models to be able to play a standard game of 40k.

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    5. but i like my hundreds of guards models. and if you didnt want to take a bunch of guardsman you can take 2-3 vets with 3 special weapons,carpas, and a chimera then you will have filled your troop obligation while still having a tank heavy force. i welcome this change now i dont have to have vets i can have a single platoon make up my army.

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    6. Itrobably wouldn't be a 50% minimum for Troops, more likely a 25% (or possibly 33%) minimum requirement. And honestly, that's not a bad idea. Troops don't have to be boring, it all depends on what Troops you take and how you kit them out.

      What it does is limit WAAC and similar types of players from fielding a ridiculously low number of Troops units at minimum numbers so they can dump all their points into OP things and proceed with a strategy of tabling their opponents for the win, or at least eradicating all their opponents' Troops (scoring units) so they can't hold an objective.

      I like the idea of percentages combined with the FOC in a way that's different from WHFB and that fits the FOC slots of 40K...

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    7. Personally I'd keep slots for HQ and have 25% minimum for troops and maximum 50% for elites, fast attack and heavy support. Maybe 25% for 'extra stuff' like allies and data slates, not sure if I'd include fortifications in there to.

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  15. The most important question that has not been answered by the rumours so far -

    Does the 6.x/not-7 with new art, or is it going to be just delicious copypasta with most changes being in the text only? For personal reasons, I recently called it quits and sold my entire figure collection, but I would still like to have this as a coffee table book if there's going to be decent new artwork.

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    1. You know they do sell books that are just the art, right?

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    2. Get a Laptop or Android device. Check out deviantart. Website. Get free new Art everyday!

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    3. Deviant Art is good once you sort through all the bronies and such :D :D

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    4. Seb, you are a moron. You're going for "troll", but you're ending at "moron". In a few years you'll understand the difference, youth.

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  16. Love the sound of these. Especially the fix to divination. This makes Eldar better

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  17. Haha. Just hahahaha...with a twist of sigh.

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  18. Sounds good to me.

    People will complain and no matter what happens I'm sure, then someone will mention Dark Angels and it'll all kick off.

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  19. as a d&d player this sounds familer

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  20. "My sister in law works in the printing department and has seen parts of the new rule book. She has limited gameplay experience but does know the rules from watching countless games. One thing she did notice is that "Prescience" is no longer the Primaris Power in Divination. It has move to number five and now cost two warp charges to cast."

    Either this guys hates his sister-in-law and wants to see her fired, or he really likes that she works on the inside of GW and he is just a moron. Either way, here's one employee who will likely be looking for a job soon enough. Good job ratting her out with a bit too much specificity as to not only where she works, but in what department, dumbass.

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    1. Or maybe he was smart enough to give the entirely wrong information so as to completely cover the identity of the source.

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    2. I was thinking the exact same thing btmcrae.

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    3. ... But if you were a betting man?

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    4. to fire the leaker GW'd have to eaither track that guy down, or fire the entire printing division just before they launched a major new rulebook

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    5. Well we know it's a female, that works in the printing department, that is married to someone who is related to another person... YEP THAT NARROWS IT DOWN GUYS!

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    6. I wonder just how big GWs printing department is, that it would have enough women that this person wouldn't fear her getting fired.

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    7. It narrows it down to a handful of people, but as Starchild said, hopefully it is completely misleading info. People getting ripped to shreds by the community for posting info has led some...less wise folks...to, on occasion, post a bit more information on their rumor sources than is sensible. Hopefully this is not such a case.

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  21. You know. This is just me, buuuut. What if instead of percentage based off of Elite, Troops, etc, it was based off of model type? Such as Infantry, Calvary, so on and so forth?

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  22. Dear Imperial Guard Players,

    Here's a heaping dose of Prescience to help you buff your army. I hope you guys enjoy! :)

    ----[One Month Later]----

    Give us all that Prescience back, bitches!!!

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  23. All of this sounds good to me. Granted, I play two armies that don't use Rulebook psychic powers, but still. Riptide/wraith/necron flyer spam are no fun to play against, and the percentages would more than fix that. Plus, Divination is WAY too powerful as it is.

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  24. You do realize that the percentage change would promote the necron Flyer Spam, because it is their troop choice dedicated Transport?

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    1. Drop pod assault, wave serpant spam...

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    2. Yeah, because Necron Flyer Spam has been so prevalent and effective recently now that no one has access to effective anti air.

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    3. Necron flyer spam would be uneffected by the % bases system since they can spam troop flyers.

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    4. Ugh, Dire Avengers and wave serpents :-(

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  25. I seriously hope this percentage system is not included. Its basically an example of bad army building compared to 1 HQ, 2 Troops + X and would also open a whole box of new balance problems.

    Don't care about Divination that much because (except allies) none of my armies can use it anyway. Probably better to not have such a "must have" as primaris.

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  26. Dark Vengeance is STILL for sale. Only the BRB is discontinued. You can still get Stronghold, Death from the Skies, and Escalation... and the digital copy of the rule book. I hope this means people with the digital copies will get free upgrades.

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  27. Percentages will only really affect tournie players...if you don't want to use it then don't use it, that's how my gaming group rolls.
    $100 for rules = Piratebay

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    1. Did you read the part where they're releasing a PDF with the updates for people who already own the 6th edition book?

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    2. People who pirate the rules are worse than TO's who limit them. Stop screwing up my costs because you're a cheap prick.

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    3. 40K player. Your costs have nothing to do with piraters. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Nunca. Not anything. As in they don't effect it at all. IF your supposition were true than we should have seen a big price drop when ebooks first dropped because of lowered production costs. We didn't. We saw price increases. GW will continue to raise costs until if affects share prices. Before you go insulting people a little bit of thought would go a long way.

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  28. From BoLS:
    First up - Percentage FOC limits (like in Warhammer Fantasy):

    40%+ Troops

    10%-30% HQ (single character HQ Warlords can break this limit)

    <20% Elite

    <25% Fast

    <25% Heavy

    <25% Lords of War

    <20% Fortifications...can take multiple fortifications

    <25% Allies, Secondary Detachments, or Allied Army Formations

    <50% Primary Army Formations

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    1. That seems way too restrictive.

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    2. And not at all like fantasy which does everything in 25% incrementsa and only requires a minimum of 25% to come from core.

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    3. It's not that restrictive. At 1850 you can still spend 462 points on any single type...
      Meaning you can still have 2 fully decked out specialist squads, or 3 slimmed down squads.
      For example, 2 Sternguard with 2 melta & 3 combi melta, or Two decked out Dreadknights, or 2 Wraithknights.
      What it does mean is that you can't spam 3 fully kitted out units to potentially break balance.

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    4. I suppose, the main thing I was thinking is that not using a simple denominations like a half or a quarter of your army may make things needlessly complex.

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    5. I hate percentages. I won't to roll dice not do algebra!!!

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    6. you must be realdumb if you cant what 25% of 2000 is lol

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